19:01:18 #startmeeting Product Working Group 19:01:19 Meeting started Mon Jul 20 19:01:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is barrett1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:01:23 The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' 19:01:31 hi everyone 19:01:37 Greetings 19:01:42 Hi Everyone - who's here for the Product Work group meeting? 19:01:42 Hi 19:01:53 Hi 19:01:54 o\ 19:01:54 I 19:02:10 Hi 19:02:25 The agenda and links are posted here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team 19:02:45 we might be a little light on attendance due to OSCON 19:03:21 RockyG: Are you here? 19:03:29 yo 19:04:09 1st topic is Repo update, does anyone have info on this? 19:04:19 #Topic User Story Repo Update 19:05:48 OK - I'll send an email to the ML and see if Rocky can give an update. 19:06:14 Next up is Upcoming Milestone checkin 19:06:31 #Topic Upcoming Milestones & Status Check 19:07:02 We have 3 upcoming deliverables, starting today. :) 19:07:25 User Stories Posted in Repo - 7/20 19:07:34 User Stories Consolidated and Prioritized - 8/3 19:07:41 Prioritized User Stories List reviewed with Cross Project Team - 8/4 19:08:03 How is everyone doing with their User Story write-ups using the Template from Shamail? 19:08:24 I haven 19:08:45 I haven't written any myself yet but I plan to capture some of the defcore ones 19:09:12 hi sgordon 19:09:18 I haven't. 19:10:09 geoffarnold: Do you have some you're planning to write up? 19:11:31 Looking at the federation space, but based on last week's Keystone midcycle we may not be quite ready 19:11:47 I'm talking to HP this week 19:12:23 What date do we want to set for getting all of the User Stories into the Repo for this cycle? 19:12:57 I would suggest a couple of weeks (at most) 19:13:21 Ideally, in a week or so, have user stories completed even if the repo isn't available. 19:13:34 That way we can just populate it versus making it a dependency 19:14:10 Shamail: Agree that the Repo is a nice to have at this point, we can use a google drive folder 19:14:37 +1 19:14:55 Linked to setting the due date is reaching out to the other Work Groups for their input 19:15:46 Agreed 19:17:22 Do you want to change the date on the user story submissions and move on to that agenda topic? 19:17:46 Not sure where to move the date to... 19:17:53 Ah 19:18:02 Should we do a doodle over ML? :) 19:18:20 We have light attendance today so I don't think we could reach an actionable date on IRC 19:18:29 +1 19:18:40 +1 19:19:08 OK - will add this to the email I'll send out... 19:19:36 Let's move on to How we work with the other community WGs 19:19:53 #Topic How to Engage Community Work Groups 19:20:22 If we just focus on Market Segment representation for this cycle, then there are 5. 19:21:33 Does it make sense to make the market segment the goal but other working groups as optional? I am thinking that some of our members participate in non-market groups too and they might want to have the option of bringing those user stories too. 19:21:47 +1 for market segment focus though 19:21:51 +1 19:22:44 We need volunteers to reachout the groups. 19:22:55 I can cover Enterprise. 19:23:37 I can cover application ecosystem 19:24:14 sgordon, can you cover telco-wg? 19:24:25 I'll capture this in the Work Plan Tracker 19:24:32 sureee 19:24:46 Thanks! 19:26:22 Anyone for Large Deployments? 19:26:43 Or API WG? 19:27:13 Large Deployments sounds like my area, but it's been relatively quiet recently 19:27:36 Thanks Geoff 19:27:42 I'll look into it 19:27:48 +1 19:27:51 thanks 19:29:35 This is a good start. 19:30:08 Can we set a date for getting in contact? 19:31:04 This is linked to user story submissions before prioritization can begin right? 19:31:15 I'll miss next week's mtg - company event 19:31:33 shamail: yes 19:32:13 If so then we probably need this item to be done by next week. Could we shoot for a status update via email by next Wednesday? 19:32:25 +1 19:33:13 #Action Carol, Steve, Shamail, Geoff - Reach out to your WG to socialize the User Story template and solicit stories for this cycle 19:33:43 #Action Due via email on ML by 7/29/15 19:34:00 OK - let's move on 19:34:15 #Topic July BoD Update Slide Review 19:34:29 #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10c1F2oYYUOQZgG-o5Nwqmf6uyoKzadOGPKaO_20jfPE/edit?usp=sharing 19:34:56 sorry I'm late. Spaced it. 19:35:28 Hi RockyG 19:35:46 Can everyone access the slides OK? 19:35:51 Hey! Getting ready for OSCon.... 19:36:00 can you repost the link? 19:36:39 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10c1F2oYYUOQZgG-o5Nwqmf6uyoKzadOGPKaO_20jfPE/edit?usp=sharing 19:38:53 Any comments? 19:40:17 Not sure if we need it for this audience, but otherwise I'd like to see a page of endorsement quotations 19:40:21 Knew I had something to do. Maybe we can connect on slike 3 at OsCon? 19:40:52 geoffarnold: endorsement quotes from whom? 19:41:07 RockyG: Yes, sometime tomorrow or Wed? 19:41:08 PTLs, mostly 19:41:24 This looks good, I am seeing some formatting issues, but nothing significant, and could be my browser. 19:41:54 May not be necessary, just exploring 19:42:09 geoffarnold: we did a summary of the feedback we got from PTLs on slide 6 19:42:28 MeganR: Formatting is off on the online version, it's okay in PPT. 19:42:53 Shamail: thank you, that does not surprise me! Great information. 19:43:44 Slide 6 is good, but doesn't convey level of support. Could be anything from "Great, this will really help" to "Well, if you're going to do this, I guess this is how it might work" 19:44:11 But I withdraw my suggestion... 19:44:13 I love the feedback on slide #6 - now if only they would allow Operators to submit feedback in a way that is not developer centric - we would be on the right track :) 19:45:10 geoffarnold: the info is from the etherpad with the pre-kilo release project plan discussions with each PTL. Can you help us make this slide more impactful? 19:45:16 maishak: would love your feedback on the template (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XpQ1PjyCqbtTIKUbPESp3AbdjUSuIP7GVjda6Cy0EY8/edit?pli=1) 19:46:40 I'll look at it, barrett1 19:47:01 Thanks geoff! 19:47:03 Shamail: a quick overview it is far too detailed 19:47:52 I can leave my comments later on on the document itself if you would like. 19:48:01 maishsk: That will be perfect. Thanks, 19:49:24 Shamail, quickie on the template...change to user story 19:49:48 Rockyg: Thanks! 19:50:20 Last topic for today is mid-cycle meetup planning 19:50:28 #Topic Mid-cycle meetup planning 19:50:36 Yo! 19:51:03 Geoffarnold: Take it away! 19:51:36 Well, let's make sure everyone who's coming is in the Wiki... 19:51:54 Or if that's too complicated, we can shift the list to the Etherpad 19:52:21 I'm trying to get another Huawei person to come. Anni Lai. 19:52:25 Location will be Cisco Building I: 285 W Tasman Drive, San Jose CA 95134 19:52:47 I am checking, should hopefully know this week. 19:53:05 Let me know of any dietary issues. We'll do the useful breakfast/lunch/drinks 19:53:11 usual 19:53:15 good idea to add a section for attendees to the etherpad, will do that.. 19:53:25 (Also useful, but...) 19:54:07 We'll provide WebEx access for anyone who wants to participate but can't attend in person 19:55:09 What else? 19:55:20 #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/productwg-liberty-midcycle-meetup 19:55:53 We need to build out the agenda - pls add your ideas to the etherpad 19:56:07 +1 19:56:11 We also should plan how we want to cover the Ops Mid cycle 19:56:48 +1 - that's going to be important 19:57:51 =1 19:57:55 +1 :] 19:57:58 How about we revisit the Mid-cycle plans on 8/3? We should have more info on the Ops agenda 19:58:14 +1 19:58:21 Shamail: Comments added to user-story-template 19:58:33 Thanks again maishsk 19:59:12 Any other topics that people want to cover? 19:59:14 I've got to bail out - running to another mtg 19:59:29 bye geoffarnold 19:59:41 maishsk, I'd like to invite you to the log wg ;-) 19:59:47 Shamail - is not meant to be harsh (it might have come out like that) - so please dont take it that way - I am looking with the shades of an Operator 20:00:07 Rockyg: You mentioned that a while back 20:00:16 ;) 20:00:35 maishsk: thanks for the context. I'll review it later this week 20:00:41 RockyG: Can you be the liason between the Product WG and the Loggin WG for gathering user stories? 20:00:42 I have no bandwidth until the end of August - so I do not know if I can be helpful until after that\ 20:00:49 Yeah. Maybe not this week, but if you've got some bugs with logs, good place to discuss... 20:00:51 I have to drop, take care all! 20:01:04 Bye folks 20:01:08 #endmeeting