20:01:10 <barrett1> #startmeeting Product Working Group 20:01:11 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Sep 28 20:01:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is barrett1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01:12 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:01:14 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' 20:01:32 <KrishR> o/ 20:01:41 <barrett1> Hi Krish 20:01:46 <philipw> o/ 20:01:52 <barrett1> Who else is here for the product working group meeting? 20:01:58 <cloudrancher> Jay is on 20:02:09 <shamail> hi 20:03:01 <stephenwalli> I’m here 20:03:04 <Rockyg> o/ 20:03:16 <Leong> leong here 20:03:19 <Leong> o/ 20:03:24 <DericHorn-HP> Here 20:04:09 <barrett1> agenda is located here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team 20:04:16 <barrett1> #topic User Story team updates 20:04:21 <barrett1> who wants lead off? 20:04:28 <barrett1> Thanks Jay! 20:04:40 <kencjohnston> o/ 20:04:55 <kencjohnston> here - IRC only for the moment, my previous call is running long. 20:05:02 <barrett1> The onboarding legacy apps team met with the Enterprise WG Cattle & Pets team. Good discussion, gathered more input 20:05:08 <barrett1> Developing a blueprint 20:05:21 <barrett1> OK - Kencjohnston 20:06:55 <barrett1> Expect to circulate the BP with this team the week of October 12th 20:07:26 <barrett1> any questions or comments from anyone else? 20:08:01 <barrett1> Kencjohnston - can you give us an update on your user story? 20:08:23 <kencjohnston> I don't have an update from last week 20:08:30 <kencjohnston> I'll be attending the Rolling Upgrades meeting tomorrow 20:08:42 <kencjohnston> and working to incorporate the Rolling Upgrades work into the existing user story 20:08:58 <shamail> awesome. 20:09:01 <barrett1> Thanks 20:09:12 <kencjohnston> I'm not sure if Keith is on with anything to add 20:09:31 <barrett1> Haven't seen him yet 20:09:34 <barrett1> Anyone have questions or comments on this? 20:09:46 <Arkady_Kanevsky> hello team 20:09:52 <barrett1> Ok, let's go to the next user story 20:10:02 <barrett1> Hi Arkady_Kanevsky! 20:10:16 <barrett1> Good timing - any update on the Life cycle managemetn user story? 20:10:35 <shamail> Hi Arkady_Kanevsky! 20:10:43 <barrett1> Sean Cohen - Are you around? 20:11:13 <gpruessmann> Hi all! 20:11:32 <barrett1> Hi gpruessmann 20:11:34 <barrett1> If nothing to update on, let's swith to Capacity/Quote User Story 20:11:55 <Leong> Capacity/Quota management meeting was scheduled last week but was cancelled. 20:11:58 <barrett1> Is Steve Gordon or Jesse Cook around? 20:11:59 <shamail> ping sgordon 20:12:09 <barrett1> Geoff Arnold, are you here? 20:12:11 <sgordon> im on irc yes 20:12:25 <sgordon> i have attempted to schedule this meeting several times now 20:12:33 <shamail> Hi sgordon, can you provide an update on capacity management? 20:12:33 <sgordon> limited availability on the part of all participants 20:12:40 <shamail> Leong just mentioned that on the call too 20:12:50 <sgordon> only have a positive response from deepak for friday 20:12:55 <sgordon> and a negative from carol 20:13:04 <sgordon> so skeptical i will get quorum 20:13:20 <sgordon> i noted that the draft stuff that exists was merged into the git repo 20:13:36 <sgordon> so creating a new review for discussion will need a lucky volunteer to propose extensions 20:13:40 <shamail> sgordon: I just mentioned the potential call on Friday 20:13:41 <sgordon> suspect that will end up being me 20:13:52 <shamail> Leong said he can join too possibly but he hasnt seen the invite 20:14:06 <sgordon> the invite was sent to people who responded to the whenisgood 20:14:07 <shamail> would yourself, Deepak, and Leong be enough quorum to hold an initial meeting? 20:14:18 <sgordon> which i sent to the list 20:14:53 <shamail> Got it. What time was proposed on Friday? 20:15:06 <shamail> Leong got disconnected from IRC so I am relaying on the phone 20:15:18 <shamail> Carol sent him the invite 20:15:25 <barrett1> The meeting is set for Noon pacific on Friday. 20:15:26 <Leong_> back here.. thanks! 20:15:37 <shamail> sgordon: It wold be great if you can proceed with at least the three of you 20:15:40 <shamail> would* 20:16:07 <shamail> sgordon: does that work? Leong said that time would work for him too 20:16:19 <Leong_> just accepted :-) 20:16:26 <shamail> Awesome! 20:16:33 <shamail> Thanks sgordon and Leong_ 20:16:43 <barrett1> I've got an 11:55 flight that day, if the meeting were earlier then I could make it (like 8 or 9 AM Pacific). 20:17:05 <barrett1> Ok that wraps-up the user story updates 20:17:20 <barrett1> # topic Mitaka Roadmap status 20:17:36 <barrett1> #topic Mitaka Roadmap status 20:17:36 <shamail> kencjohnston: any updates on heat or designate? 20:18:16 <Leong_> Trove PTL will get back this or next week. 20:19:41 <barrett1> Next team call is Thursday and focus is to review key themes/messages for the releases 20:21:54 <barrett1> Targeting draft of content behind Marketing launch next week (Shamail developing); Targeting 10/12 to develop/review the content for Tokyo 20:22:44 <shamail> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/MultiRelease_Roadmap 20:23:03 <MeganR> Thank you Shamail! 20:23:17 <barrett1> Any comments or questions for Shamail? 20:23:27 <barrett1> That all sounds great! 20:23:40 <barrett1> #topic Tokyo Summit Coverage 20:24:07 <barrett1> Are there sessions that folks know need coverage? 20:25:54 <shamail> #link cross project sessions at summit: http://odsreg.openstack.org/ 20:26:17 <shamail> *proposed 20:26:25 <Rockyg> For suggested Cross-Project sessions at either of these locations: http://odsreg.openstack.org/ and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cross-project-session-planning Moderator names need to be present for the suggestion to be accepted 20:28:16 <Rockyg> For sessions that prod_wg are interested in, we need owners so the session gets accepted 20:29:27 <barrett1> sgordon - are you interested in moderating the Quota session? 20:29:48 <sgordon> do i get to wear body armor? 20:30:02 <shamail> sgordon: lol! 20:30:08 <barrett1> lol 20:30:26 <barrett1> if we provide that are you in? We could find you a partner... 20:30:31 <sgordon> i actually think we would be potentially better off identifying someone from the dev community, e.g. nova 20:30:35 <sgordon> at least as a partner 20:30:51 <sgordon> (i mention nova because they feel the pain of their existing quota implementation ;)) 20:31:07 <shamail> that was the thought, partner with someone from the dev community... either dhellmann or John G. (Nova PTL) would make sense 20:31:23 <barrett1> Doug Hellmann's name is associated with this topic too. Reach out to Doug and see if he can partner? 20:32:50 <barrett1> sgordon - will you reach out or do you want me to send an email about this? 20:33:29 <sgordon> can you please reach out to john? 20:33:38 <sgordon> or doug for that matter 20:33:48 <sgordon> assuming scheduling works out i am happy to co-pilot 20:34:08 <barrett1> sgordon - OK, i'll send the note and include you. Not sure what the day/time details on the sessions are. 20:34:39 <barrett1> I'll also send an email to Sean Dague about partnering with Kenny, Keith and myself on the upgrade session 20:35:58 <shamail> #link http://odsreg.openstack.org/cfp/details/11 (Troubleshooting cross-project collaboration) is one that I am willing to participate in with ttx 20:36:12 <barrett1> Thanks shamail 20:36:25 <barrett1> Any other sessions that we want to touch base on? 20:36:58 <barrett1> What about the Ops Summit sessions? 20:38:14 <sgordon> <barrett1> sgordon - OK, i'll send the note and include you. Not sure what the day/time details on the sessions are. <-- the scheduling situation is a moving target 20:38:30 <sgordon> schedule for these, ops sessions, and other design summit sessions still being worked out 20:40:57 <barrett1> Would be good to know when the agenda times will firm up. 20:41:01 <shamail> #action shamail to find out when draft TYO ops-track schedule will be published 20:41:14 <barrett1> sgordon: Thanks. 20:41:54 <barrett1> Anything else on Tokyo sessions we want to cover? 20:43:15 <barrett1> I'm thinking that a couple of weeks ahead of the summit, it would good to create a google doc with sessions of interest and circulate it to this group and others 20:43:32 <barrett1> Sounds like the design summit schedule will get finalized ~2 weeks ahead of the summut 20:44:15 <barrett1> #topic Opens 20:44:26 <barrett1> Anyone have something they want to share with the team? 20:44:30 <barrett1> Updates? 20:45:07 <shamail> Updated wiki will be published for our WG later tonight. I send out an email after the update has been published. 20:45:51 <shamail> The new wiki will contain sections for user stories, info on roadmap refresh, overall WG deliverables, and workflows. 20:47:25 <barrett1> shamail: +1 20:49:00 <Arkady_Kanevsky> suggest we identify a coupel of people from member companies who will have priority to review these quickly 20:49:03 <Rockyg> Get involved with bug fixing process. Encourage at least monthly bug review days. 20:49:21 <Rockyg> Help with prioritization of bug fixes. 20:49:31 <Arkady_Kanevsky> then we cna propose to PTL to see of we do that he or some core revier can merges these aftre their review? 20:49:38 <Rockyg> How can we provide resources to help speed back porting? 20:49:56 <Arkady_Kanevsky> We will need soem email key word so reviewers can be alerted to it 20:50:02 <shamail> very ncie 20:50:31 <barrett1> Who owns action on this? 20:51:06 <Arkady_Kanevsky> can generate proposal on it and send to the group for review 20:51:22 <barrett1> Write a proposal, circulate on Dev ML and review in the cross-project team meeting? 20:51:43 <barrett1> #action Write a proposal, circulate on Dev ML and review in the cross-project team meeting 20:52:02 <barrett1> #action Arkady Write a proposal 20:52:23 <barrett1> #action Arkady and RockyG circulate proposal on Dev ML and review in the cross-project team meeting 20:52:40 <barrett1> That was a good open - any others? 20:53:15 <barrett1> If there's nothing else for today we can wrap this up. 20:53:20 <barrett1> Thanks 20:53:22 <shamail> take care 20:53:23 <MeganR> Have a good evening. 20:53:26 <stephenwalli> ciao 20:53:29 <barrett1> #endmeeting