20:01:10 #startmeeting Product Working Group 20:01:11 Meeting started Mon Sep 28 20:01:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is barrett1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:01:14 The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' 20:01:32 o/ 20:01:41 Hi Krish 20:01:46 o/ 20:01:52 Who else is here for the product working group meeting? 20:01:58 Jay is on 20:02:09 hi 20:03:01 I’m here 20:03:04 o/ 20:03:16 leong here 20:03:19 o/ 20:03:24 Here 20:04:09 agenda is located here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team 20:04:16 #topic User Story team updates 20:04:21 who wants lead off? 20:04:28 Thanks Jay! 20:04:40 o/ 20:04:55 here - IRC only for the moment, my previous call is running long. 20:05:02 The onboarding legacy apps team met with the Enterprise WG Cattle & Pets team. Good discussion, gathered more input 20:05:08 Developing a blueprint 20:05:21 OK - Kencjohnston 20:06:55 Expect to circulate the BP with this team the week of October 12th 20:07:26 any questions or comments from anyone else? 20:08:01 Kencjohnston - can you give us an update on your user story? 20:08:23 I don't have an update from last week 20:08:30 I'll be attending the Rolling Upgrades meeting tomorrow 20:08:42 and working to incorporate the Rolling Upgrades work into the existing user story 20:08:58 awesome. 20:09:01 Thanks 20:09:12 I'm not sure if Keith is on with anything to add 20:09:31 Haven't seen him yet 20:09:34 Anyone have questions or comments on this? 20:09:46 hello team 20:09:52 Ok, let's go to the next user story 20:10:02 Hi Arkady_Kanevsky! 20:10:16 Good timing - any update on the Life cycle managemetn user story? 20:10:35 Hi Arkady_Kanevsky! 20:10:43 Sean Cohen - Are you around? 20:11:13 Hi all! 20:11:32 Hi gpruessmann 20:11:34 If nothing to update on, let's swith to Capacity/Quote User Story 20:11:55 Capacity/Quota management meeting was scheduled last week but was cancelled. 20:11:58 Is Steve Gordon or Jesse Cook around? 20:11:59 ping sgordon 20:12:09 Geoff Arnold, are you here? 20:12:11 im on irc yes 20:12:25 i have attempted to schedule this meeting several times now 20:12:33 Hi sgordon, can you provide an update on capacity management? 20:12:33 limited availability on the part of all participants 20:12:40 Leong just mentioned that on the call too 20:12:50 only have a positive response from deepak for friday 20:12:55 and a negative from carol 20:13:04 so skeptical i will get quorum 20:13:20 i noted that the draft stuff that exists was merged into the git repo 20:13:36 so creating a new review for discussion will need a lucky volunteer to propose extensions 20:13:40 sgordon: I just mentioned the potential call on Friday 20:13:41 suspect that will end up being me 20:13:52 Leong said he can join too possibly but he hasnt seen the invite 20:14:06 the invite was sent to people who responded to the whenisgood 20:14:07 would yourself, Deepak, and Leong be enough quorum to hold an initial meeting? 20:14:18 which i sent to the list 20:14:53 Got it. What time was proposed on Friday? 20:15:06 Leong got disconnected from IRC so I am relaying on the phone 20:15:18 Carol sent him the invite 20:15:25 The meeting is set for Noon pacific on Friday. 20:15:26 back here.. thanks! 20:15:37 sgordon: It wold be great if you can proceed with at least the three of you 20:15:40 would* 20:16:07 sgordon: does that work? Leong said that time would work for him too 20:16:19 just accepted :-) 20:16:26 Awesome! 20:16:33 Thanks sgordon and Leong_ 20:16:43 I've got an 11:55 flight that day, if the meeting were earlier then I could make it (like 8 or 9 AM Pacific). 20:17:05 Ok that wraps-up the user story updates 20:17:20 # topic Mitaka Roadmap status 20:17:36 #topic Mitaka Roadmap status 20:17:36 kencjohnston: any updates on heat or designate? 20:18:16 Trove PTL will get back this or next week. 20:19:41 Next team call is Thursday and focus is to review key themes/messages for the releases 20:21:54 Targeting draft of content behind Marketing launch next week (Shamail developing); Targeting 10/12 to develop/review the content for Tokyo 20:22:44 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/MultiRelease_Roadmap 20:23:03 Thank you Shamail! 20:23:17 Any comments or questions for Shamail? 20:23:27 That all sounds great! 20:23:40 #topic Tokyo Summit Coverage 20:24:07 Are there sessions that folks know need coverage? 20:25:54 #link cross project sessions at summit: http://odsreg.openstack.org/ 20:26:17 *proposed 20:26:25 For suggested Cross-Project sessions at either of these locations: http://odsreg.openstack.org/ and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cross-project-session-planning Moderator names need to be present for the suggestion to be accepted 20:28:16 For sessions that prod_wg are interested in, we need owners so the session gets accepted 20:29:27 sgordon - are you interested in moderating the Quota session? 20:29:48 do i get to wear body armor? 20:30:02 sgordon: lol! 20:30:08 lol 20:30:26 if we provide that are you in? We could find you a partner... 20:30:31 i actually think we would be potentially better off identifying someone from the dev community, e.g. nova 20:30:35 at least as a partner 20:30:51 (i mention nova because they feel the pain of their existing quota implementation ;)) 20:31:07 that was the thought, partner with someone from the dev community... either dhellmann or John G. (Nova PTL) would make sense 20:31:23 Doug Hellmann's name is associated with this topic too. Reach out to Doug and see if he can partner? 20:32:50 sgordon - will you reach out or do you want me to send an email about this? 20:33:29 can you please reach out to john? 20:33:38 or doug for that matter 20:33:48 assuming scheduling works out i am happy to co-pilot 20:34:08 sgordon - OK, i'll send the note and include you. Not sure what the day/time details on the sessions are. 20:34:39 I'll also send an email to Sean Dague about partnering with Kenny, Keith and myself on the upgrade session 20:35:58 #link http://odsreg.openstack.org/cfp/details/11 (Troubleshooting cross-project collaboration) is one that I am willing to participate in with ttx 20:36:12 Thanks shamail 20:36:25 Any other sessions that we want to touch base on? 20:36:58 What about the Ops Summit sessions? 20:38:14 sgordon - OK, i'll send the note and include you. Not sure what the day/time details on the sessions are. <-- the scheduling situation is a moving target 20:38:30 schedule for these, ops sessions, and other design summit sessions still being worked out 20:40:57 Would be good to know when the agenda times will firm up. 20:41:01 #action shamail to find out when draft TYO ops-track schedule will be published 20:41:14 sgordon: Thanks. 20:41:54 Anything else on Tokyo sessions we want to cover? 20:43:15 I'm thinking that a couple of weeks ahead of the summit, it would good to create a google doc with sessions of interest and circulate it to this group and others 20:43:32 Sounds like the design summit schedule will get finalized ~2 weeks ahead of the summut 20:44:15 #topic Opens 20:44:26 Anyone have something they want to share with the team? 20:44:30 Updates? 20:45:07 Updated wiki will be published for our WG later tonight. I send out an email after the update has been published. 20:45:51 The new wiki will contain sections for user stories, info on roadmap refresh, overall WG deliverables, and workflows. 20:47:25 shamail: +1 20:49:00 suggest we identify a coupel of people from member companies who will have priority to review these quickly 20:49:03 Get involved with bug fixing process. Encourage at least monthly bug review days. 20:49:21 Help with prioritization of bug fixes. 20:49:31 then we cna propose to PTL to see of we do that he or some core revier can merges these aftre their review? 20:49:38 How can we provide resources to help speed back porting? 20:49:56 We will need soem email key word so reviewers can be alerted to it 20:50:02 very ncie 20:50:31 Who owns action on this? 20:51:06 can generate proposal on it and send to the group for review 20:51:22 Write a proposal, circulate on Dev ML and review in the cross-project team meeting? 20:51:43 #action Write a proposal, circulate on Dev ML and review in the cross-project team meeting 20:52:02 #action Arkady Write a proposal 20:52:23 #action Arkady and RockyG circulate proposal on Dev ML and review in the cross-project team meeting 20:52:40 That was a good open - any others? 20:53:15 If there's nothing else for today we can wrap this up. 20:53:20 Thanks 20:53:22 take care 20:53:23 Have a good evening. 20:53:26 ciao 20:53:29 #endmeeting