02:00:31 <kei> #startmeeting product_working_group 02:00:32 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Aug 9 02:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:33 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 02:00:36 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' 02:00:48 <samP_> hi o/ 02:00:57 <kei> Hi everyone. 02:01:05 <kei> Hi samP. 02:01:11 <samP_> kei; hi 02:01:28 <kei> Who else is here for the Product WG Regional Meeting? 02:03:02 <kei> You can find the agenda for today here: 02:03:12 <kei> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team#Aug_9.2C_2016_.28UTC.29_Product_Team_Regional_Meeting_Agenda 02:03:46 <leong> hi this is leong 02:03:50 <kei> Hi leong. 02:03:55 <leong> hi kei 02:03:59 <samP_> Hi leong 02:04:12 <leong> hi samP 02:04:27 <kei> OK. Let's start. 02:04:39 <kei> #topic Midcycle planning 02:04:48 <samP_> any new updates about Midcycle planning? info other than in etherpad? 02:04:58 <samP_> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG_Newton_Midcycle_Planning 02:05:35 <kei> Here is what has been decided about Midcycle in the main meeting today (JST): 02:05:46 <kei> - Attendees need to read user stories as prework 02:05:57 <kei> - Voice line will be prepared for those who join it remotely 02:06:04 <leong> team is asked to review agenda items for PWG midcycle 02:06:06 <kei> - PWG dinner on Monday night :) 02:06:29 <samP_> great.. 02:06:35 <leong> add to line 44 at the etherpad if you are joining us 02:06:59 <leong> samP_: i can't remember who you are based on your nick.. could u remind me? :p 02:07:28 <samP_> leong: I am sampath from NTT 02:07:50 <leong> yeah.. NTT.. now i remember :) 02:08:07 <samP_> leong: it been a while 02:08:22 <samP_> bit busy with masakari and openstack HA 02:08:28 <leong> kei and samp_ , would you guys be there for the PWG and Ops Midcycle 02:08:35 <kei> I can't make it this time. Will you be attending the midcycle, samP? 02:08:58 <samP_> I will be there, pwg mid -> east(probably) -> ops 02:09:24 <leong> that's great! 02:09:38 <kei> samP: Nice. Are there any other attendees from NTT? 02:10:13 <samP_> for PWG ops, I think Im the only one. not sure yet. but few will come to east and Ops 02:10:33 <leong> ok.. it is good to have you representing NTT for the PWG meeting 02:10:35 <samP_> sorry, for PWG ops -> PWG mid 02:11:04 <kei> samP: ah, ok. thanks! 02:11:13 <leong> sad that kei can't make it this time.. wish to see you at Barcelona :) 02:11:29 <kei> leong: thanks. hope so too... 02:11:41 <samP_> but you could connect via online( or voice?)? 02:11:45 <leong> nothing much for midcycle planning, please review the etherpad if you have any specific topic to discuss 02:11:56 <kei> samP: yes, voice line. 02:12:35 <samP_> kei: gret, voice line will be really nice. some of our HA team members can join too 02:12:45 <samP_> I will update them 02:14:04 <leong> #action Add voice line info for people to join PWG midcycle remotely 02:14:18 <kei> samP: i'm not sure i can attend the whole time, but will try to attend at least "Review Status of Top 5 User Story (2 hrs)". 02:14:37 <samP_> kei: that will be great..thank you 02:15:04 <leong> shall we move on to next topic to discuss user story? 02:15:11 <kei> leong: sure. 02:15:19 <samP_> leong: please 02:15:23 <kei> #topic User story update 02:15:48 <leong> kei and I are working on the baremetal 02:16:14 <leong> i have sent the "requirement analysis" to our ironic team for feedback and review 02:16:46 <leong> btw, we are underdoing company re-org.. so some of the things are moving slowly at our side 02:17:21 <kei> leong: thanks! excatly who did you send it to? PTL and cores? 02:17:35 <leong> PTL is from rackspace 02:17:42 <leong> which i also sent 02:17:52 <leong> we have two cores in our team 02:18:05 <leong> and few new developers on ironic/baremetal project 02:18:17 <kei> leong: ah, them. ok, thanks. 02:18:40 <leong> i haven't heard anything from them yet 02:19:08 <kei> leong: what kind of feedback are you expecting? 02:19:50 <leong> feedback in the existing spec/implementation..and new spec if required 02:20:07 <leong> i think we also need to "prioritize" which features is more important in the user story 02:20:51 <leong> there are few "features" required in the user story.. we need to prioritize them so that the dev team can know which one for work on first 02:21:08 <kei> leong: i think so too. 02:21:46 <leong> if you can take a look from Fujitsu customer perspective, we can add the "priority" into the requirement document 02:22:22 <kei> leong: sure! i'll do that. 02:22:39 <leong> and in today PWG core meeting.. we are wondering if we can use this "requirement analysis" document as a base template for other user story 02:22:55 <leong> the team need some guidelines/templates for "requirement analysis" 02:23:32 <kei> leong: can you share your document? is it based on the doc i created? 02:23:42 <leong> that's the doc you created 02:23:54 <leong> but we need to revised and include the priority 02:25:08 <leong> we can discuss that in more detail offline 02:25:11 <kei> leong: and it doesn't really provide a template for other's reference... some more revision is needed? 02:25:21 <kei> leong: ok. 02:25:51 <kei> samP: could you share the latest status of vm ha? 02:25:56 <leong> samP_.. do you know anything from the HA_VM user story? 02:26:32 <samP_> kei: we are currently writing specs for VM_HA 02:26:36 <samP_> let me find some links 02:27:09 <kei> i believe NTT has registered masakari source to openstack repo lately. 02:27:31 <leong> do you have the link to share? 02:27:40 <samP_> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG_Newton_Midcycle_Planning 02:27:45 <samP_> sorry wrong link 02:27:56 <kei> samP: :) 02:27:56 <samP_> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-resource-agents-specs 02:28:31 <samP_> here will be the link for specs. currently working under openstack resource agents repo 02:29:26 <samP_> here are the plans for specs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha 02:30:12 <kei> samP: thanks. will take a quick look at them. 02:30:25 <samP_> leong: yes. we crate a repo and launchpad for masakari. now moving all the codes from github and adding new features too 02:30:54 <leong> #link HA_VM related specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-resource-agents-specs 02:31:15 <leong> #link HA_VM Planning: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha 02:31:31 <samP_> I will send the announcement about maskari as soon as we finished the code migration. 02:31:42 <leong> samP_ excellent! 02:32:32 <samP_> about vm_ha specs, HA team planned to finish all specs before Barcelona, so we can do further discussion on summit 02:32:41 <leong> samP_ is there any tracking from the user_story and ensure that all features are covered in the planning and spec? 02:33:42 <leong> for example: Requirement_123 in HA_VM User Story is covered by Spec_ABC 02:33:42 <samP_> leong: yes, we created etherpad based on vmha user story. 02:34:28 <leong> that's great! 02:34:28 <samP_> leong: ahh.. in that case, not documented. I will add those to spec. so everyone can track tem 02:34:41 <leong> ok samp_ 02:35:14 <leong> anything else to update? 02:35:35 <samP_> thatz all form my side. thank you 02:36:04 <kei> leong: maybe i should have written my doc in etherpad so that it'd be much easier to share. 02:36:10 <leong> #info Need to link SPEC for HA_VM to requirements in HA_VM user story 02:36:44 <leong> kei.. that's what i thought so as well...etherpad is more easier to share with wider folks 02:37:32 <leong> #action leong & kei to share the Baremetal Requirement analysis on etherpad 02:37:41 <kei> leong: sorry i just followed my old habit :) 02:37:59 <kei> leong: thanks. will do that. 02:38:00 <leong> no worry :-) 02:38:10 <leong> let's move on... 02:38:20 <leong> next topic "aob"? 02:38:50 <kei> how about this. 02:38:52 <kei> #topic Upcoming Meeting Plan 02:39:04 <leong> +1 02:39:14 <kei> the main meeting canceled 8/22 and 9/5. why don't we have the next meeting on 30th? 02:39:18 <leong> what's ur thought on future meeting planning? 02:40:15 <leong> there was a discussion in today core meeting about encouraging membership participation in PWG 02:41:20 <leong> ok.. let's set the next meeting on 30th 02:41:29 <leong> sorry i side-track a bit :) 02:41:50 <kei> leong: 30th it is. that's no problem. yes, there was the discussion. 02:42:02 <kei> #topic Opens 02:42:39 <leong> #agree Next regional meeting will be on August 30th UTC 02:42:57 <kei> leong: thanks. 02:43:01 <leong> :) 02:43:54 <kei> leong: they are still looking for someone who can reach out to HPE, right? 02:43:55 <leong> how can we encourage and reach out to more company to participate in PWG, or specifically Regional PWG for APAC 02:44:05 <leong> yes kei.. that's one AR 02:44:21 <leong> do you have contact with HPE? 02:45:02 <leong> it would be great if we can get more folks to participate in this Regional PWG especially for APAC customers 02:45:24 <leong> the requirements for APAC customer can be different to US customers 02:46:03 <kei> leong: i think a person who i met at tokyo summit was a product manager of HPE. i think i can contact her. 02:46:22 <kei> leong: +1 02:46:23 <leong> kei. that's great if you can reach out to her 02:46:49 <kei> leong: sure thing. 02:47:41 <kei> any other topics to discuss? 02:47:51 <leong> that's all from my side 02:48:09 <samP_> thank you all... nothing from me 02:48:26 <kei> ok, then. let's finish the meeting! 02:48:30 <leong> thanks folks for attending! 02:48:36 <leong> appreciate your time! 02:48:43 <kei> thanks, leong, samP! 02:48:44 <samP_> thank u all.... 02:48:47 <kei> #endmeeting