21:02:00 <CarolBarrett> #startmeeting Product Working Group
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21:02:25 <CarolBarrett> Hi - Who is here for today's Product Work Group team meeting?
21:02:32 <Rockyg> o/
21:02:38 <MeganR> o/
21:02:58 <leong> o/
21:03:00 <MadhuKashyap> o/
21:03:13 <KrishR> o/
21:03:17 <CarolBarrett> Shamail is traveling today and won't be able to join us
21:03:42 <CarolBarrett> leong: going in disguise?
21:03:46 <CarolBarrett> :)
21:04:01 <CarolBarrett> You can find the agenda here
21:04:11 <CarolBarrett> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team
21:04:38 <CarolBarrett> Let's get started
21:04:45 <CarolBarrett> #topic Barcelona Planning
21:05:01 <CarolBarrett> We have the info on our working session
21:05:12 <CarolBarrett> here's a link to the planning etherpad
21:05:20 <CarolBarrett> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG_Session_Oct16_BCN
21:07:08 <CarolBarrett> We have both a BoF and Working session
21:07:21 <CarolBarrett> Let's go to the etherpad
21:07:40 <CarolBarrett> Pls add agenda topics and indicate interest
21:10:59 <CarolBarrett> Any agenda proposals that we want to discuss?
21:12:18 <CarolBarrett> we will have 90 mins, so can probably handle 2-3 topics depending upon depth
21:12:21 <CarolBarrett> I think setting Ocata goals is a good one!
21:14:52 <CarolBarrett> Madhu: Do you think we would have some of the OPNFV folks in the session in Barcelona?
21:15:16 <CarolBarrett> adhuKashyap: Do you think we would have some of the OPNFV folks in the session in Barcelona?
21:15:20 <MadhuKashyap> I think so. I will reach out to some of them.
21:16:39 <CarolBarrett> MadhuKashyap: Thanks. Let us know what you hear. There is a joint OpenStack Board/OPNFV Board meeting on Thursday afternoon
21:17:57 <CarolBarrett> Based upon the current comments looks like our agenda would be: Ocata & Pike Goals, PWG's Role in Forum, Self-Service model for Roadmap creation
21:18:03 <MadhuKashyap> Oh good to know. Usually someone on the OPNFV mailing list sends out the minutes.
21:18:30 <CarolBarrett> I'm planning to attend the meeting and can send out my notes too
21:18:49 <MadhuKashyap> Thanks
21:19:05 <CarolBarrett> I think we should finalize the agenda and owners next week - agree?
21:19:22 <Rockyg> +100 CarolBarrett
21:19:32 <MadhuKashyap> +1
21:20:05 <Rockyg> the +100 was for the notes.  +1 for finalizing
21:20:16 <CarolBarrett> #agree Finalize PWG Working Session agenda and owners in 10/10 team meeting
21:20:19 <CarolBarrett> Rockg: LOL
21:20:44 <CarolBarrett> Can we look at the slides from Austin and decide what changes we want to make for BCN?
21:21:03 <CarolBarrett> #link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxtM4AiszlEyWnhITHBSMjE3R3M/view
21:22:33 <CarolBarrett> Should we add a slide about why this WG was formed? Came up in another WG discussion earlier today.
21:22:34 <pchadwick> Being too lazy to do the math myself, does anyone know how close do we come to the 80% of contributions on slide 3?
21:23:03 <CarolBarrett> pchadwick: pretty good size gap currently
21:23:18 <CarolBarrett> Red Hat and Mirantis aren't really active
21:24:50 <pchadwick> carolbarrett: that is what I thought
21:24:57 <Rockyg> we should let them know we're pulling hn  off the slide ;-0
21:25:12 <pchadwick> rockyg: +1
21:25:44 <CarolBarrett> I reached out to Red Hat, but no response...need to follow-up.
21:25:58 <CarolBarrett> I think someone else had the action item to reach out to Mirantis....?
21:27:20 <CarolBarrett> Beyond those Companies - We have good attendance at the sessions. What else should we do to convert this to active participants?
21:28:12 <pchadwick> My guess is that they figure they will just drive the roadmap they way they want to.
21:29:06 <Rockyg> we should mark the process slide as to be updated
21:29:49 <CarolBarrett> I'll create a google slide version that we can all edit
21:30:32 <CarolBarrett> #link: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/12C16giMZ_XOcG36aD-O7k0P498Yn6gZuTs8ndfG3hsE/edit?usp=sharing
21:32:02 <CarolBarrett> Can everyone access and edit that?
21:32:25 <KrishR> yes
21:32:39 <CarolBarrett> Thanks
21:32:57 <CarolBarrett> Pls put comments as well as make edits directly on the slides
21:34:18 <pchadwick> carolbarret: I was able to edit
21:34:35 <CarolBarrett> pchadwick: Thanks
21:35:42 <MadhuKashyap> I am from HPE. Don't cross out HPE.
21:36:01 <CarolBarrett> MadhuKashyap: My bad - Thanks for correcting!
21:36:15 <MadhuKashyap> :) np
21:37:59 <MadhuKashyap> Can we point to some feature in Newton that came out of PWG user story of collaboration?
21:38:12 <MadhuKashyap> or collaboration?
21:38:24 <Rockyg> good question
21:38:42 <CarolBarrett> MadhuKashyap: I wonder if there's something around upgrades that we could highlight?
21:39:18 <CarolBarrett> I added a slide as a place holder for outlining Impacts
21:39:30 <KrishR> CarolBarrett: +1 on highlghting work on rolling upgrades
21:39:59 <CarolBarrett> KrishR: Do you have thoughts on what we can specifically point to?
21:40:43 <Rockyg> I think some HA stuff got done this cycle
21:41:19 <CarolBarrett> RockyG: Do you have or can you find out the specifics?
21:42:09 <Rockyg> good qestion.  i'll look around
21:42:24 <KrishR> CarolBarrett: I'll put some thoughts into the slides
21:42:37 <CarolBarrett> KrishR: Thanks
21:43:27 <CarolBarrett> Other thoughts on proof points of contributions?
21:44:37 <Rockyg> it's possible some bare metal needs allso got fulfilld
21:45:01 <CarolBarrett> Leong: Do you know about that?
21:45:37 <CarolBarrett> He must've left...
21:46:34 <KrishR> CarolBarrett: I believe multiple compute hosts and multi-tenant networking in Ironic made it into Newton
21:46:54 <CarolBarrett> Pls KrishR: That's great - can you add that into the slides too?
21:47:05 <Rockyg> I know this was a very productive cycl for thm
21:47:16 <CarolBarrett> That's good to hear
21:47:44 <CarolBarrett> The next cycle could have much less new features -- but much more bug fix, debt reduction.
21:48:05 <CarolBarrett> Pls edit the slides and we'll review in next week's meeting.
21:48:11 <CarolBarrett> Let's go to our next topic
21:48:25 <CarolBarrett> #topic Ops meetup schedule and coverage
21:48:38 <CarolBarrett> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EUSYMs3GfglnD8yfFaAXWhLe0F5y9hCUKqCYe0Vp1oA/edit#gid=80351347
21:48:51 <CarolBarrett> Here's where the current plan for the Ops Meetup in captured
21:49:40 <CarolBarrett> It would be good to identify sessions that relate to our priority user stories and make sure we have coverage
21:52:06 <CarolBarrett> I added a copy of this into the PWG folder I shared earlier
21:52:14 <CarolBarrett> Here is a link to it
21:52:18 <CarolBarrett> #link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SyNpzXE1hqWypZoipMEuLYHPn9UkU-5mp7xOv0JSs1w/edit?usp=sharing
21:52:26 <CarolBarrett> we can use this to track coverage
21:53:15 <CarolBarrett> If you want to volunteer to cover a session, pls add your name to the session cell
21:53:35 <CarolBarrett> Oops that might not work
21:54:11 <CarolBarrett> Thoughts on how to track?
21:55:17 <MadhuKashyap> I noticed folks are adding comments to cells - perhaps that's one way to track.
21:56:04 <CarolBarrett> MadhuKashyap: That's a good idea!
21:56:58 <CarolBarrett> Pls look this over, along with the rest of your Summit schedule and we'll review next week too.
21:57:10 <CarolBarrett> Does anyone have opens before we run out of time?
21:57:14 <CarolBarrett> #topic Opens
21:58:26 <Rockyg> nope
21:58:57 <MeganR> I'm good
21:59:25 <MadhuKashyap> same here
21:59:40 <CarolBarrett> OK - then we're done for today!
21:59:50 <Rockyg> thanks!
21:59:55 <CarolBarrett> #endmeeting