06:01:51 <kei> #startmeeting product_working_group 06:01:52 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Feb 7 06:01:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:01:53 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 06:01:55 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' 06:01:58 <kei> hi! 06:02:01 <leong> hello kei 06:02:10 <kei> hi leong 06:02:23 <leong> how are you doing kei... 06:02:40 <kei> leong: i'm great, thanks. 06:03:02 <kei> You can find the agenda for today here: 06:03:16 <kei> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team 06:04:13 <kei> leong: can we start with the first agenda? 06:04:16 <leong> anyone else for the Product WG regional meeting? 06:04:30 <kei> i believe there're hieulq and tovin07 06:05:00 <tovin07> o/ 06:05:12 <kei> hi tovin07 06:05:21 <tovin07> hello kei :D 06:05:26 <leong> nice :) 06:05:52 <leong> let's move on to the first agenda itm 06:05:57 <kei> ok 06:06:04 <kei> #topic User Story 06:06:24 <leong> I have submitted a User Story Tracker for Baremetal.. 06:06:33 <leong> #link Baremetal Tracker: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429946/ 06:06:35 <kei> leong: thank you. 06:06:43 <leong> it is still work-in-progress. 06:07:12 <leong> there are still more information need to be included. 06:07:27 <leong> that's why it is marked "WIP: 06:07:48 <leong> i will try to fill up the rest of the information over the next few days 06:08:23 <kei> leong: sounds great. 06:08:46 <leong> if you have any question, feel free to reply/comment on the gerrit patch 06:09:17 <kei> leong: so you'll be adding more features to the file, right? 06:09:36 <leong> yup.. basically based on the gap-analysis document 06:09:44 <kei> currently, there're Console, NMI, Graceful shutdown, and unified management. 06:09:54 <kei> leong: i see. 06:10:13 <kei> leong: sounds like it's my job... thanks again. 06:10:29 <leong> not problem :-) 06:11:02 <leong> just bring me a snack from Japan next time we meet :) 06:11:23 <kei> leong: sure :) 06:13:10 <leong> once we got more details to merge the tracker, we should be able to see the data on featuretracker.openstack.org (but the site is down now) 06:14:20 <kei> leong: ok. i'll take a look at the site later once it's back online. 06:14:51 <leong> sure 06:15:28 <kei> leong: as for posting a revised patch for bare metal user story, i haven't done it yet. i'll do that this week to start a dicussion of "Wei vs new persona" 06:15:46 <leong> ok.. thanks kei 06:16:38 <kei> leong: sorry, but there's not much updates for bare metal. can we move on to the logging (the name may be changed) user story? 06:16:47 <leong> sure! 06:17:04 <kei> hieulq: are you there? 06:17:18 <tovin07> he will be late for a little bit 06:17:27 <tovin07> sorry for that 06:18:12 <kei> tovin07: no problem. 06:18:13 <leong> i believe Rockyg from Huawei also interested to work on Logging 06:18:41 <leong> The LCOO working group also interested to collaborate on Logging user story 06:18:42 <kei> leong: yes, i communicated with her before. 06:19:25 <kei> leong: by "Logging user story", do you mean our user story that we were going to submit? 06:19:54 <hieulq> o/ 06:20:02 <leong> yes.. but collaborate with Huawei and LCOO to define the user story requirements as a grou 06:20:05 <leong> group 06:20:12 <hieulq> sorry for being late, my lap met some troubles 06:20:17 <kei> leong: understood. 06:21:17 <kei> leong: like we discussed last time, our requirement tend to be tracing. but we have some requirements for logging two. we may need to sort them out first. 06:21:27 <kei> hieulq: hi. no problem. 06:22:25 <leong> kei: that shouldn't be a problem.. let's continue to draft our requirements here, and can invite others to review 06:22:53 <kei> leong: as for tracing, we're finalizing it now. hieulq was on holidays last week and revised and sent a revised one to me yesterday. apprecaite that, hieulq. 06:23:15 <leong> maybe we should name it as "Logging for traceability" 06:23:20 <hieulq> kei, my pleasure ;) 06:23:38 <hieulq> leong, we are drafting it with the name "distributed tracing" 06:23:53 <kei> we're trying to clearly divide our requirements into logging and tracing so that we can post the tracing user story dependently for review. 06:24:25 <leong> hieulq: that's fine.. as long as we clearly define the 'problem statement' 06:24:29 <kei> logging should be more complicated as many people are interested and their requirement may be similar, but differnt in details. 06:24:44 <leong> kei: agree 06:25:22 <kei> leong: we'll try to submit the user story this week. 06:25:27 <kei> hieulq: let's get it done :) 06:25:47 <leong> that's great. Thanks for the effort, kei and hieulq 06:26:43 <kei> leong: sorry it's taking time. 06:26:43 <leong> drop me the link when it is submitted 06:26:52 <kei> leong: sure thing. 06:27:36 <kei> leong: hieulq: tovin07: sorry, but my network is not good today. that's why there's sometimes a silence from my side... 06:29:59 <leong> let me know if you need help on submitting the user story 06:30:47 <kei> leong: thanks! 06:31:04 <kei> leong: should we move on to Opens? 06:31:10 <leong> sure 06:31:25 <kei> #topic Opens 06:31:45 <kei> does anyone have any other topics to discuss today? 06:31:52 <leong> FYI.. here's the link to the minutes of US timezone meeting this morning 06:32:10 <leong> #link US meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-02-06-21.00.html 06:32:37 <leong> in summary, the midcycle is still planning-in-progress, pending PWG attendance confirmation 06:32:42 <leong> and location 06:33:09 <leong> for the Boston summit, i have submitted a "working session" for PWG 06:33:24 <leong> kenny submitted a Birds_of_feather session for PWG 06:33:29 <kei> leong: yes. thanks for the submission. 06:33:43 <kei> leong: i see. 06:33:57 <leong> I also submitted another session (with AndyU + Kei) to promote Product WG to the community 06:34:21 <leong> Shamail submitted a Roadmap session 06:34:27 <kei> leong: thanks so much. 06:34:52 <leong> Kencjohnston and Arcady_Kanevsky might also work on an update for "rolling-upgrade" user story 06:35:41 <kei> leong: i think i'll be there as some fujitsu engineers are invovled in the rolling-upgrade development. 06:35:44 <leong> that's about the sessions i am aware of from Product WG perspective 06:35:58 <leong> nice kei 06:36:27 <leong> Another thing for the Forum. 06:36:50 <leong> PWG is making a proposal to facilitate the upcoming Forum 06:36:50 <kei> leong: ok. do you have any ideas how many presentations will be taken place this time at the summit? usually the number is over 1000. 06:37:02 <kei> leong: oh sorry, go ahead. 06:37:09 <leong> no problem kei.. 06:37:36 <leong> i have no clue on the amount of presentation :) 06:37:52 <leong> here's the link to the PWG proposal 06:38:07 <leong> #link Proposal to facilitate Forum: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jTlO4UdNjc5cOKboeCNhLDEdttazWWlDgNxxulUrPNg/edit 06:38:24 <leong> we will discuss this proposal in the next UC meeting 06:38:30 <leong> feel free to comments on the slides 06:39:17 <leong> that's my updates from the US-meeting 06:39:20 <leong> :) 06:44:37 <kei> leong: i just took a quick look at it. looks like a good thing to do. i'll look into it more later. 06:44:52 <leong> thanks! 06:45:47 <kei> leong: if the slide deck has its purpose (or issues to address) explicitely, it'd be even better? 06:46:29 <leong> +1 great point 06:46:41 <leong> i will look into that 06:46:51 <kei> "issues to address" might not be appropriate here. maybe "things to achieve"? 06:47:15 <leong> "Filling the gap" ? 06:47:43 <kei> leong: it might be it. 06:50:49 <kei> ok, anything else? 06:51:04 <leong> nothing from e 06:51:05 <leong> me 06:51:35 <kei> ok. let's finish it today. thanks everyone! 06:52:04 <leong> thanks kei! 06:52:08 <kei> #endmeeting