06:00:16 <kei> #startmeeting product_working_group
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06:00:34 <leong> o/
06:01:04 <kei> hi leong
06:01:48 <leong> konichiwa kei
06:01:52 <leong> :)
06:02:03 <kei> konnichiwa!
06:03:25 <kei> You can find the agenda for today here:
06:03:34 <kei> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team
06:03:42 <kei> same as the last time.
06:04:21 <leong> anyone else here for pwg regional meeting?
06:05:42 <kei> i pinged hieulq and tovin07, but didn't get respond.
06:06:35 <kei> leong: you didn't go to PTG this time, did you?
06:06:45 <leong> kei: nope i didn't
06:07:30 <kei> leong: i see.
06:07:33 <kei> let's start.
06:07:44 <leong> sure!
06:08:27 <kei> #topic User Story
06:08:52 <kei> we have two topics for this, bare metal service and traceability.
06:08:54 <leong> there is a Gap-Analysis template ready/merged into the repo...
06:09:21 <leong> we should start importing the bare-metal analysis as well...
06:09:36 <kei> leong: sure.
06:09:51 <leong> #link Gap Analysis Template: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/gap-analysis-template.rst
06:10:27 <leong> this template is a simple one that created based on bare-metal & capacity mgmt analysis
06:11:00 <tovin07> o/
06:11:14 <leong> hi tovin07!
06:11:17 <kei> hi tovin07
06:11:28 <tovin07> hi leong kei
06:12:01 <tovin07> hieulq will not join us today
06:12:18 <kei> leong: so it's basically about importing the contents of bare metal analysis from etherpad to the repo.
06:12:28 <leong> kei: you are right :)
06:12:51 <leong> we want those info captured/maintained in the repo...
06:13:31 <kei> leong: do you plan to add more specific template in the future?  (i'm not asking you to do that.  i'm just asking a question.)
06:14:30 <leong> kei: i think we should have all template we need for PWG user story now...
06:14:51 <leong> we got the user-story.template, analysis.template and tracker.template
06:14:57 <leong> that should cover all we need today...
06:15:21 <leong> unless do you think if we are missing anything?
06:15:22 <kei> leong: ok.  thanks.
06:15:48 <kei> leong: i'll import the contents.
06:16:14 <leong> thanks kei, once you imported, i will review it
06:16:28 <kei> leong: thanks.
06:17:13 <leong> i haven't got time to update the baremetal tracker list yet...
06:17:39 <leong> will try to work on it over the week
06:17:49 <kei> leong: i haven't got time to post a revised version of bare metal user story to the repo either...
06:17:57 <kei> leong: same here.
06:18:16 <leong> let's get them done as soon :)
06:18:27 <kei> leong: sure thing.
06:19:34 <kei> as for traceability user story, i did a final review.  hieulq is on a travel and will come back tomorrow.  he should be able to get it done and post it to the repo this week, i guess.
06:19:59 <leong> nice...
06:20:37 <leong> anyone working on Logging?
06:21:04 <kei> leong: he emailed me and asked me to review it, but i missed his email for days...
06:21:57 <kei> leong: our scope covers logging too, but currently we're focusing on traceability.
06:22:11 <leong> kei: ok.. got it..
06:23:49 <kei> leong: we did work on logging about a year ago and get something done.  maybe we'll focus on logging again soon.
06:24:43 <leong> kei: is that work together with rocky?
06:26:49 <hieulq_> o/ sorry for being late
06:27:01 <hieulq_> i'm on business trip now
06:27:19 <kei> leong: no at the moment.  btw, we're still actively working on networking logging (security group logging and firewall logging)
06:27:43 <leong> hi hieulq_
06:27:58 <kei> leong: unfortunately, it didn't make it at ocata.  we'll try to get it done at pike.
06:28:13 <leong> kei: ok. that will be a good one
06:28:14 <kei> hi hieulq_
06:28:21 <hieulq_> hi leong, kei
06:28:25 <kei> i heard you're in HCM.
06:28:54 <leong> HCM=?
06:29:03 <tovin07> Ho Chi Minh City
06:29:09 <tovin07> fyi
06:29:22 <hieulq_> kei, yes, attending apricot 2017 in Ho Chi Minh city, talking about traceability in OpenStack
06:29:37 <kei> hieulq_: great.
06:30:31 <leong> that's exciting..
06:31:33 <kei> hieulq_: i just told leong that we finished a final review on traceability user story, and you'll come back tomorrow and should be able to finish it this week.
06:31:42 <hieulq_> sure
06:31:48 <kei> hieulq_: thanks!
06:32:02 <hieulq_> will push to gerrit in this week after coming back to office
06:32:30 <kei> hieulq_: leong has finished a template for gap analysis.  i'll import the contents leong and i made before into the template and post it to the repo.
06:32:38 <kei> hieulq_: great.
06:35:12 <kei> does anyone have anything else to discuss?
06:35:42 <leong> fyi... today PWG core team meeting
06:35:46 <leong> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-02-27-21.01.html
06:36:05 <kei> leong: i haven't read it yet.
06:36:18 <leong> have a look at the meeting summary and let me know if you have any questions
06:37:16 <leong> one key point is that PWG is proposing to facililiate the Forum
06:37:23 <leong> we have discussed with UC..
06:37:38 <leong> the next step is to bring that proposal to Board approval
06:37:58 <leong> #link PWG Forum Proposal: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jTlO4UdNjc5cOKboeCNhLDEdttazWWlDgNxxulUrPNg/edit
06:39:55 <leong> feel free to contact/email me if anyone has any questions
06:40:16 <kei> leong: thanks.  "leong to set up a doodle pool to establish weekly meeting for planning Forum progress"  what's this about?
06:40:56 <leong> that's planning towards the Forum facilitation
06:41:13 <leong> OpenStack Forum at Boston
06:41:48 <leong> we need to form a "planning" sub-team
06:43:15 <hieulq_> the idea of forum facilitation is great :)
06:43:19 <kei> leong: does the sub-team consist of pwg members and other members?
06:43:48 <leong> i assume mostly PWG members, but anyone is open to join
06:44:29 <kei> leong: i see.  thanks.
06:44:30 <leong> the key thing about Forum facilitation is to "aggregate user feedback, document them and track them"
06:45:09 <kei> leong: yes, pwg sounds like the best group to faciliate it.
06:45:25 <leong> yes, but we need more people to help :)
06:45:50 <kei> leong: what kind of help do you need so far?
06:46:30 <leong> those are still at high-level ideas... we will work on more concrete plan over the next few weeks
06:47:16 <leong> can be helping in many areas, eg. facilitate forum session, consolidate session etherpads, aggregate summary report, etc.
06:47:46 <kei> leong:  i see.
06:48:38 <kei> leong: i'll watch for the doodle pool announcement in the list.
06:49:11 <leong> will work on my list of action items tomorrow or wednesday :)
06:49:29 <kei> leong: ok :)
06:50:20 <kei> leong: i'm trying to open the pwg forum proposal page, but my firefox isn't responding..
06:50:54 <kei> i'll take a look at it later.  (just restarted my firefox.)
06:51:14 <leong> kei: ok.. let me know if doesn't work, i can send you a pdf
06:51:47 <kei> leong: i just opened it.
06:55:42 <kei> leong: i'll ask you a qusetion later about the slide deck.  i think we're running out of time.
06:55:52 <kei> any other topics?
06:55:55 <leong> ok, no problem
06:56:02 <leong> i think we are good
06:56:26 <kei> ok.  let's finish the meeting today.  thanks all!
06:56:35 <leong> thank you all
06:56:41 <kei> #endmeeting