06:00:16 #startmeeting product_working_group 06:00:17 Meeting started Tue Feb 28 06:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:00:18 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 06:00:20 The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' 06:00:34 o/ 06:01:04 hi leong 06:01:48 konichiwa kei 06:01:52 :) 06:02:03 konnichiwa! 06:03:25 You can find the agenda for today here: 06:03:34 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team 06:03:42 same as the last time. 06:04:21 anyone else here for pwg regional meeting? 06:05:42 i pinged hieulq and tovin07, but didn't get respond. 06:06:35 leong: you didn't go to PTG this time, did you? 06:06:45 kei: nope i didn't 06:07:30 leong: i see. 06:07:33 let's start. 06:07:44 sure! 06:08:27 #topic User Story 06:08:52 we have two topics for this, bare metal service and traceability. 06:08:54 there is a Gap-Analysis template ready/merged into the repo... 06:09:21 we should start importing the bare-metal analysis as well... 06:09:36 leong: sure. 06:09:51 #link Gap Analysis Template: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/gap-analysis-template.rst 06:10:27 this template is a simple one that created based on bare-metal & capacity mgmt analysis 06:11:00 o/ 06:11:14 hi tovin07! 06:11:17 hi tovin07 06:11:28 hi leong kei 06:12:01 hieulq will not join us today 06:12:18 leong: so it's basically about importing the contents of bare metal analysis from etherpad to the repo. 06:12:28 kei: you are right :) 06:12:51 we want those info captured/maintained in the repo... 06:13:31 leong: do you plan to add more specific template in the future? (i'm not asking you to do that. i'm just asking a question.) 06:14:30 kei: i think we should have all template we need for PWG user story now... 06:14:51 we got the user-story.template, analysis.template and tracker.template 06:14:57 that should cover all we need today... 06:15:21 unless do you think if we are missing anything? 06:15:22 leong: ok. thanks. 06:15:48 leong: i'll import the contents. 06:16:14 thanks kei, once you imported, i will review it 06:16:28 leong: thanks. 06:17:13 i haven't got time to update the baremetal tracker list yet... 06:17:39 will try to work on it over the week 06:17:49 leong: i haven't got time to post a revised version of bare metal user story to the repo either... 06:17:57 leong: same here. 06:18:16 let's get them done as soon :) 06:18:27 leong: sure thing. 06:19:34 as for traceability user story, i did a final review. hieulq is on a travel and will come back tomorrow. he should be able to get it done and post it to the repo this week, i guess. 06:19:59 nice... 06:20:37 anyone working on Logging? 06:21:04 leong: he emailed me and asked me to review it, but i missed his email for days... 06:21:57 leong: our scope covers logging too, but currently we're focusing on traceability. 06:22:11 kei: ok.. got it.. 06:23:49 leong: we did work on logging about a year ago and get something done. maybe we'll focus on logging again soon. 06:24:43 kei: is that work together with rocky? 06:26:49 o/ sorry for being late 06:27:01 i'm on business trip now 06:27:19 leong: no at the moment. btw, we're still actively working on networking logging (security group logging and firewall logging) 06:27:43 hi hieulq_ 06:27:58 leong: unfortunately, it didn't make it at ocata. we'll try to get it done at pike. 06:28:13 kei: ok. that will be a good one 06:28:14 hi hieulq_ 06:28:21 hi leong, kei 06:28:25 i heard you're in HCM. 06:28:54 HCM=? 06:29:03 Ho Chi Minh City 06:29:09 fyi 06:29:22 kei, yes, attending apricot 2017 in Ho Chi Minh city, talking about traceability in OpenStack 06:29:37 hieulq_: great. 06:30:31 that's exciting.. 06:31:33 hieulq_: i just told leong that we finished a final review on traceability user story, and you'll come back tomorrow and should be able to finish it this week. 06:31:42 sure 06:31:48 hieulq_: thanks! 06:32:02 will push to gerrit in this week after coming back to office 06:32:30 hieulq_: leong has finished a template for gap analysis. i'll import the contents leong and i made before into the template and post it to the repo. 06:32:38 hieulq_: great. 06:35:12 does anyone have anything else to discuss? 06:35:42 fyi... today PWG core team meeting 06:35:46 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-02-27-21.01.html 06:36:05 leong: i haven't read it yet. 06:36:18 have a look at the meeting summary and let me know if you have any questions 06:37:16 one key point is that PWG is proposing to facililiate the Forum 06:37:23 we have discussed with UC.. 06:37:38 the next step is to bring that proposal to Board approval 06:37:58 #link PWG Forum Proposal: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jTlO4UdNjc5cOKboeCNhLDEdttazWWlDgNxxulUrPNg/edit 06:39:55 feel free to contact/email me if anyone has any questions 06:40:16 leong: thanks. "leong to set up a doodle pool to establish weekly meeting for planning Forum progress" what's this about? 06:40:56 that's planning towards the Forum facilitation 06:41:13 OpenStack Forum at Boston 06:41:48 we need to form a "planning" sub-team 06:43:15 the idea of forum facilitation is great :) 06:43:19 leong: does the sub-team consist of pwg members and other members? 06:43:48 i assume mostly PWG members, but anyone is open to join 06:44:29 leong: i see. thanks. 06:44:30 the key thing about Forum facilitation is to "aggregate user feedback, document them and track them" 06:45:09 leong: yes, pwg sounds like the best group to faciliate it. 06:45:25 yes, but we need more people to help :) 06:45:50 leong: what kind of help do you need so far? 06:46:30 those are still at high-level ideas... we will work on more concrete plan over the next few weeks 06:47:16 can be helping in many areas, eg. facilitate forum session, consolidate session etherpads, aggregate summary report, etc. 06:47:46 leong: i see. 06:48:38 leong: i'll watch for the doodle pool announcement in the list. 06:49:11 will work on my list of action items tomorrow or wednesday :) 06:49:29 leong: ok :) 06:50:20 leong: i'm trying to open the pwg forum proposal page, but my firefox isn't responding.. 06:50:54 i'll take a look at it later. (just restarted my firefox.) 06:51:14 kei: ok.. let me know if doesn't work, i can send you a pdf 06:51:47 leong: i just opened it. 06:55:42 leong: i'll ask you a qusetion later about the slide deck. i think we're running out of time. 06:55:52 any other topics? 06:55:55 ok, no problem 06:56:02 i think we are good 06:56:26 ok. let's finish the meeting today. thanks all! 06:56:35 thank you all 06:56:41 #endmeeting