21:01:18 #startmeeting product_working_group 21:01:18 Meeting started Mon Oct 16 21:01:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01:21 The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' 21:01:23 hi everyohne 21:01:29 #topic roll-call 21:01:35 hi Shamail 21:01:35 who is here for the PWG meeting today? 21:01:39 Hi Arkady_Kanevsky 21:02:19 Looks like it’s just us so far 21:02:35 Leong said he might be running late but with even the three of us there isn’t really a quorum 21:02:44 Let’s give it 5 min 21:03:34 o/ 21:03:43 sure 21:04:09 hi rockyg 21:04:26 Hey! 21:05:02 Definitely not going to Sydney. Sleep apnea makes it not worth while until I have it under control. 21:05:19 :( 21:05:24 I’m not there either 21:05:33 I will be there. 21:05:38 nice Arkady_Kanevsky 21:05:56 Does that mean I handle BOF and PWG sessions? 21:05:57 Well, this should be a quick meeting… let’s get started 21:06:15 OK. 21:06:17 Leong will be there too but your help would be greatly appreciated by him I’m sure 21:06:28 ++ 21:06:31 #topic Review action items from previous meeting 21:06:32 glad to help 21:06:37 good timing leong 21:06:40 #chair leong 21:06:41 Current chairs: leong shamail 21:06:43 hi folks.. :-) 21:06:47 hello 21:06:50 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2017/product_working_group.2017-10-09-21.00.html 21:06:50 sorry was deplayed by previous meeting 21:07:03 Action Item: Arkady_Kanevsky to check with shamail on any slidedecsk to present/explain PWG workflow 21:07:22 Want to give an overview Arkady_Kanevsky? 21:08:06 Shamail. I got an email that I will be added to present 2 things for SIG venue 21:08:43 Nice 21:08:53 One of these is to present our workflow and walk thru + and - for it. Then SIG can decide to adopt it, agment it or ignore it 21:09:09 Sounds good 21:09:33 Shamail, I am looking for your old presentation of worflow and want to work with you to update it to the latest for SIG presentation 21:09:47 I recall you had one in google doc. 21:09:48 The latest workflow is actually on the wiki page (https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/c/ce/Development_Proposal_Workflow.png) 21:09:57 We do need to update it based on recent decisions 21:10:14 Let me see if I can find the old slides 21:10:24 That is the image. But you also had presentation 21:11:12 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nU1DnyFxVlck3lvR7GrXI8tjQaMMIy0GFLPsYzne7ag/edit#slide=id.g1f441c5038_0_189 21:11:47 This is older but could be updated: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dZBm4cfpSyVlvPLpHSReaQiZ7e8SfgS7VLSbSqoWokw/edit 21:11:50 I think we need to update it to better fit META SIG to be useful for all SIGs for development of proposals 21:12:04 I think we should create a new one using the chart as the basis 21:12:06 Arkady_Kanevsky: +1 21:12:21 +1 21:12:25 _1 21:12:27 +1 21:12:29 #action Arkady_Kanevsky and shamail to work on updated development proposal workflow to be used in Sydney 21:12:40 Thanks Arkady_Kanevsky 21:12:43 Thanks for slide. I will work from there and then sent to this team fpor review 21:12:52 #topic Sydney Plans 21:12:58 #chair leong 21:12:59 Current chairs: leong shamail 21:13:08 Working Session 21:13:16 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20411/product-working-group-wg 21:13:23 Working session is scheduled, link has details 21:13:34 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-forum-product-wg-working-session 21:13:56 all: please suggest agenda to the working session 21:14:03 Please items to the etherpad for topics that would benefit from a face to face discussion 21:14:37 #action All - Please add items to be discussed at working session in Sydney to the working session etherpad 21:14:53 we will try to establish a voice bridge during the working session for folks who are interested to join remotely 21:15:00 The second presentation was on tracking proposal progress. I recall Leong run it with all machineary for track progress, incl;uding patch submission for it/ 21:15:02 That would be great leong 21:15:15 that’s correct Arkady_Kanevsky 21:15:17 webex session? 21:15:20 i got the conf-call info from rockyg , will publish on the etherpad 21:15:27 We also have a BoF session 21:15:34 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20412/product-working-group-bof 21:15:37 Thanks, leong I was just going to ask... 21:16:09 This session is meant for introducing interested community members to the Product Team 21:16:18 we haven't got a specific plan for BoF yet... 21:16:19 We will probably need a deck for this one 21:16:51 FYI: These two sessions are back to back as well 21:16:56 at laest PWG charter 21:17:03 not sure who will be attending the BoF, potentially we can just re-use previous BoF slide to introduce Product Team and with the updated charter 21:17:13 2 different days: Monday and Tuesday 21:17:29 Arkady_Kanevsky: I think charter, new approach, alignment with WGs/SIGs, and some items we need others to help with 21:17:43 Arkady_Kanevsky: They both show as Tuesday 21:17:51 Arkady_Kanevsky: same day, back to back.. same room 21:18:00 Working Session go first, then follow by BoF 21:18:06 leong: ++ 21:18:23 Anyone want to volunteer to create the first draft of the BoF presentation? 21:18:47 i can put up a draft for BoF 21:18:53 Thanks leong 21:19:09 #action Leong will create draft presentation for BoF session 21:19:28 There is also a SIG/WG/UC meeting 21:19:41 I don’t think there is an agenda there yet… is this even scheduled? 21:19:47 or was this something we wanted to request? 21:20:00 I think it would be good to add this item to whatever UC meeting is planned 21:20:27 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20496/user-committee-planning-activities-for-next-cycle 21:21:00 Anyone else want to discuss anything related to Sydney? 21:21:22 there seems to have many interesting Forum topics... 21:21:33 Agreed 21:21:36 #link Forum : forumtopics.openstack.org 21:22:05 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Forum 21:22:36 #topic Open 21:22:43 Anything else to discuss today? 21:22:46 none from ,e 21:22:48 me 21:23:03 nope 21:23:03 Ditto/ 21:23:06 good for me today 21:23:12 Sounds good, thank you everyone! 21:23:19 Thanks! 21:23:25 #endmeeting