21:01:09 #startmeeting project 21:01:10 Meeting started Tue Sep 11 21:01:09 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01:12 The meeting name has been set to 'project' 21:01:18 Classic agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:01:26 #info We'll make RC1 decisions and review buglist for each project 21:01:34 The idea being to differentiate between release blockers and targets of opportunity... 21:01:42 So that I can clearly tell when it's "good enough" 21:01:46 o/ 21:01:50 #topic Keystone status 21:01:53 heckj: hi! 21:01:58 #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/folsom-rc1 21:02:02 howdy 21:02:11 So we have two bugs (+ one security issue to be addressed tomorrow) 21:02:19 Bug 980085 - review @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12752/ 21:02:21 Launchpad bug 980085 in keystone "ldap Identity backend TenantAPI bugs" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/980085 21:02:28 That one should be done soon ? 21:02:30 yep - very in progress and reviews getting done on those ASAP 21:02:39 Bug 1022614 - review @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12605/ 21:02:40 Launchpad bug 1022614 in keystone "Document Memcache server needed system time setting" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022614 21:02:44 aiming to ahve them all completed and wrapped within 48 hours 21:03:03 heckj: There is one being reviewed that might make sense to include as well: 21:03:03 o/ 21:03:09 bug 1006777 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12499/ 21:03:10 Launchpad bug 1006777 in keystone "GET /v2.0/tokens/{token_id}/endpoints not implemented" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006777 21:03:35 ttx: yep - good call - updating 21:03:35 heckj: if you agree I'll set the milestone target 21:03:38 ok 21:04:01 heckj: OK, so we should be able to cut Keystone Folsom-RC1 tomorrow or Thursday ? 21:04:12 ttx: that's what we're aiming for 21:04:23 #info Keystone RC1 ETA Wednesday/Thursday 21:04:32 ttx: are we handling release notes in any consolidated fashion? 21:04:46 heckj: yes, we should have a wiki page 21:04:49 Got email from Lauren wanting to pull them together across the projects for Folsom release 21:05:00 ttx: do we have that yet - you creating and we edit? 21:05:10 #action ttx to create Folsom Release Notes base wiki page 21:05:14 heckj: In other news, how is document-deployment-suggestions-policy going ? 21:05:18 bcwaldon is ahead of the curve here, making the rest of us look back pbbbbbbb 21:05:47 ttx: poorly - I've made no progress on it in the past week, and I expected to be able to put more time against it 21:06:08 I unlinked it from the milestone as a critical to have before release thing, but still aim to do that with the doc reviews for keystone for annegentle 21:06:27 heckj: if your RC1 is that good, you should have plenty of time for doc :) 21:06:32 heckj: anything else ? 21:06:37 heh, I hope - nothing els 21:06:42 Questions about Keystone ? 21:07:03 #topic Swift status 21:07:07 notmyname: o/ 21:07:14 Action from previous meeting: 21:07:19 * notmyname to go through 1.7.0 features and target blueprints accordingly 21:07:29 #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.7.0 21:07:40 notmyname: still in progress ? 21:08:20 hi 21:08:33 I haven't had a chance to do the blueprints yet 21:08:40 #action notmyname to go through 1.7.0 features and target blueprints accordingly 21:08:49 How is 1.7.0 QA going so far ? 21:09:10 Still on track for a release on thursday ? 21:09:26 good. we may have a patch that needs to be backported, but I'm waiting for more info (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12737/) 21:09:52 if that one doesn't need to be backported (ie we don't know if it's an actual swift bug yet), then we should be good to go 21:10:18 notmyname: if it needs to be backported, just target the bug to 1.7.0 so we can track it 21:10:28 notmyname: anything else ? 21:10:32 that's all from me 21:10:39 Questions on Swift ? 21:11:17 #info potential 1.7.0 backport at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12737/ 21:11:22 #topic Glance status 21:11:27 bcwaldon: yo 21:11:31 hey 21:11:32 #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/folsom-rc1 21:11:40 * ttx refreshes 21:11:44 heh 21:11:46 1 bug left on your list: 21:11:57 trying to cram it through the gate now 21:11:59 bug 997658 - being reverified @ https://review.openstack.org/12760 21:12:00 Launchpad bug 997658 in glance "glance fails to upload to S3 store" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/997658 21:12:15 I've started filing bugs on all the transient failures 21:12:34 bcwaldon: if it lands before the end of meeting, could we cut the release branch together ? 21:12:41 bcwaldon: or you prefer to wait tomorrow ? 21:12:43 ttx: yes, but only if we do it together 21:13:05 bcwaldon: then I do RC1 if the list is still complete by the time I get up 21:13:12 ttx: works for me 21:13:24 awesome, will ping you at end of meeting 21:13:29 bcwaldon: Anything else ? 21:13:34 ttx: no sir 21:13:39 Questions on Glance ? 21:13:46 OH 21:13:52 #info Glance RC1 probably tomorrow 21:13:57 wanted to tell everyone that I released glanceclient v0.5.1 yesterday 21:14:10 now I'm done ;) 21:14:31 #info glanceclient v0.5.1 released yesterday 21:14:38 #topic Quantum status 21:14:44 danwent: hey 21:14:45 hey 21:14:50 #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/folsom-rc1 21:15:00 2 bugs left: 21:15:02 yup, that's where i spend all my time :) 21:15:05 bug 1048681 - under review @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12714/ 21:15:06 Launchpad bug 1048681 in quantum "quantum agent using a namespace does not work with nec plugin" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048681 21:15:13 bug 1047742 - under review @ https://review.openstack.org/12657 21:15:13 Launchpad bug 1047742 in quantum "admin unable to create VM and attach to tenant net" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047742 21:15:28 this one we have a patch that we're OK with, but we think there's a cleaner way to do it. Will have this resolved in several hours 21:15:31 danwent: should land today / early tomorrow ? 21:16:06 the other bug is something that we're going to drop. we were trying to support a use case where an admin spins up a VM on behalf of a user in nova, and plugs into a user's private network. 21:16:36 but nova doesn't seem to have a way for an admin to create a vm on behalf of a user, so we're dropping it. 21:16:37 danwent: yeah, sounds a bit stretched 21:16:47 just need to confirm with salv 21:16:52 In the review pipe, I noticed one you might consider adding to folsom-rc1: 21:16:57 bug 1048903 - under review @ https://review.openstack.org/11975 21:16:57 Launchpad bug 1048903 in quantum "Create .mailmap file" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048903 21:17:07 almost in anyway 21:17:12 salv confirms 21:17:23 ttx: sure, can merge that 21:17:41 danwent: will target this one and untarget 1047742 21:17:46 k 21:17:50 danwent: Looks like you're almost done, should be ready for Folsom-RC1 tomorrow ? 21:18:00 yes, should be ready in a few hours 21:18:05 i want to get it released ASAP 21:18:15 so maybe when you wake up tomorrow? 21:18:33 danwent: I need some time coordinated with you to cut the release branch 21:18:42 so probably when YOU get up tomorrow 21:19:12 ok, I will email you, but I can stay up late tonight so we can do it when you get up :) 21:19:32 danwent: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1047742 should we also drop the Nova task ? Mark both Invalid ? 21:19:32 Launchpad bug 1047742 in quantum "admin unable to create VM and attach to tenant net" [High,In progress] 21:19:39 yes 21:19:50 danwent: ack on staying up late tonight 21:20:07 danwent: just untargeted or invalid ? 21:20:24 #info Quantum RC1 probably tomorrow 21:20:38 untarget for now 21:20:39 i'll let salv-mobile determine if there's scope for work later 21:20:45 ack 21:20:49 danwent: Anything else ? 21:20:53 nope 21:21:00 we're working to get docs out 21:21:01 Questions on Quantum ? 21:21:09 as the questions about quantum are pooring in on the ML :) 21:21:12 pouring 21:21:33 #topic Cinder status 21:21:39 jgriffith: o/ 21:21:44 #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/folsom-rc1 21:21:52 ttx: hello 21:21:58 One bug left on your list: 21:22:02 bug 979020 - under review @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12396/ 21:22:03 Launchpad bug 979020 in cinder "Volumes stuck in "error deleted" state when using device mapper" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979020 21:22:05 ttx: kinda 21:22:10 Looks like we should discuss this one a bit 21:22:21 Yeah... here's the skinny 21:22:31 I thought my work around would solve this (zero out on create) 21:22:38 and it does.. *most* of the time 21:22:54 jgriffith: isn't that bug 1023755 ? 21:22:55 Launchpad bug 1023755 in nova "Unable to delete the volume snapshot" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023755 21:22:56 but it honks things up in tempest/devstack etc because now create can take a long time 21:23:11 ttx: yes 21:23:36 These are all lvm kernel bugs 21:23:37 jgriffith: I comme,ted on te Nova port of it -- I'm unconvinced 21:23:56 ttx: You were correct to be so 21:24:13 ttx: It's on the ubuntu kernel teams radar but I'm a bit concerned obviously 21:24:14 jgriffith: basically those are bugs outside openstack, with no perfect workaround 21:24:15 * markmc doesn't like the idea of us working around random kernel bugs 21:24:20 ttx: You got it 21:24:24 markmc: agreed 21:24:31 markmc: ttx I'd like to revert my work around 21:24:39 jgriffith: sounds good to me 21:24:45 there's no point in messing with it now 21:25:01 jgriffith: does that affect bug 979020 ? 21:25:01 Launchpad bug 979020 in cinder "Volumes stuck in "error deleted" state when using device mapper" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979020 21:25:51 This one may be slightly different, but as per my last comment I'm inclined to agree with markmc 21:26:04 I'd like to investigate doing an lvchange rather than rip it out 21:26:21 ok, let's keep it on map then 21:26:31 You have a few other reviews in the pipe: 21:26:34 Yes, it needs to stay 21:26:38 If we should wait for those before pushing RC1, they should have a bug and be targeted 21:26:44 yes... a good number 21:26:45 no bug, sync from openstack-common - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12410/ 21:26:57 So none of the sync issues have bugs associated 21:26:57 bug 1042904 - under review @ https://review.openstack.org/12067 21:26:58 Launchpad bug 1042904 in nova "can't update volume and snapshot display_name" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042904 21:27:07 and that's the bulk of what you've got there 21:27:14 no bug, Storwize/SVC driver config options - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12779/ 21:27:40 ttx: correct, I've declined it in cinder w/ comment that it needs bug in nova and cinder 21:27:42 jgriffith: could you go through them and create a bug / target it where you think those should be blockers ? 21:28:23 ttx: yes... BUT for example sync common 21:28:54 ttx: there are a couple that are related to this sort of thing 21:29:15 ttx: I'll create bugs saying they're out of sync of something, or I'll just approve them right now and get them through 21:29:35 if you approve them right now, no pb 21:29:40 k 21:29:44 the trick is that the bug lets us track it's completed 21:29:48 The only one I wanted to check with nova folks on 21:30:00 which, due to the delay in gate... is always tricky to ensure 21:30:02 ttx: understood, but this syncing stuff is kinda screwing up the idea 21:30:22 ttx: but I'll see what I can do to give us some record keeping 21:30:26 jgriffith: so better have a bug to remind everyone we are waiting on that :) 21:30:34 jgriffith: Anything else ? 21:30:45 Yes... nova folks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12067/ 21:30:56 There's an equiv nova version of this 21:31:06 jgriffith: so looks like your RC1 is more likely to hit Thursday/Friday 21:31:13 I was inclined to kick it out because it's late in the game for nova 21:31:26 ttx: yes, Thurs/Fri please, hoping to get something on the LVM issue 21:31:30 bug 1042904 21:31:31 Launchpad bug 1042904 in nova "can't update volume and snapshot display_name" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042904 21:31:45 vishy: ^ 21:32:06 This isn't a critical bug in my book but I don't mind it going in. But we have to sync up so I defer to nova 21:32:09 jgriffith: nova review @ https://review.openstack.org/12816 21:32:25 ttx: yep, that's the one 21:32:32 jgriffith: let's discuss that under Nova 21:32:44 Questions on Cinder ? 21:32:57 #info Cinder RC1 probably Thursday/Friday 21:33:27 #topic Nova status 21:33:34 vishy: around? 21:33:40 yes 21:33:41 hi 21:33:47 vishy: hi! 21:33:50 #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/folsom-rc1 21:33:51 one good thing to note - only 12 untriaged bugs! :) 21:33:56 Yeah! 21:33:58 markmc: yay! 21:34:22 We still have 20 bugs on the folsom-rc1 list though, which is a bit too much... 21:34:39 so I think we need to pare down the list to start focusing on the release-critical issues, if we want to reach RC1 anytime soon 21:34:46 * markmc nods 21:34:52 Looking at unassigned ones: some of them I think are not release-critical, so should be dropped from list unless someone picks them up now: 21:34:57 bug 1048565 21:34:58 Launchpad bug 1048565 in nova "Invalid JSON request is returning 500 ERROR instead of Bad Request 400 exception" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048565 21:35:17 also bug 1042215 21:35:17 bug 1042215 21:35:17 Launchpad bug 1042215 in nova "Add unit testing coverage for nova.volume.cinder.API" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042215 21:35:22 wow 21:35:23 bug 1046054 21:35:24 Launchpad bug 1046054 in nova "Security groups leak across tenants for admin users" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046054 21:35:35 any takers ? 21:36:02 Those three might need more attention and be kept on-list: 21:36:08 bug 1001075 21:36:09 Launchpad bug 1001075 in nova "nova-network fails to start: missing CIDR (with Quantum/Linux bridge plugin)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001075 21:36:20 bug 1046236 21:36:21 Launchpad bug 1046236 in nova "Folsom - Quota exceeded error messages for instance quota exceeded are not proper" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046236 21:36:52 I'll grab 1046236, had my nose in that code fairly recently ... 21:36:55 bug 979020 - I guess we should drop it now ? 21:36:56 Launchpad bug 979020 in cinder "Volumes stuck in "error deleted" state when using device mapper" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979020 21:37:14 bug 1048565 -- this one seems like it should be a very simple fix 21:37:14 Launchpad bug 1048565 in nova "Invalid JSON request is returning 500 ERROR instead of Bad Request 400 exception" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048565 21:37:15 eglynn_: thanks ! 21:37:48 bug 1046054 that one seems fairly simple too 21:37:48 Launchpad bug 1046054 in nova "Security groups leak across tenants for admin users" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046054 21:37:59 there is no need to show all secgroups to an admin 21:38:20 vishy: want to keep all those in ? and review that Thursday ? 21:38:28 bug 979020 just needs sync of code from cinder i think 21:38:28 Launchpad bug 979020 in cinder "Volumes stuck in "error deleted" state when using device mapper" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979020 21:38:57 vishy: right, when jgriffith decides on the best course of action there 21:39:10 k so lets assign that to him for now 21:39:29 done 21:39:35 vishy: what about 1001075 ? 21:40:30 danwent: do you have someone who can look at it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1001075 21:40:32 Launchpad bug 1001075 in nova "nova-network fails to start: missing CIDR (with Quantum/Linux bridge plugin)" [Medium,Confirmed] 21:40:51 vishy: I will look at it. 21:40:54 it looks like the network is somehow getting created without a cidr? 21:40:59 danwent: cool thanks 21:41:08 vishy: not sure its a valid setup, will respond on bug 21:41:10 So the only one unassigned is bug 1046054 21:41:11 Launchpad bug 1046054 in nova "Security groups leak across tenants for admin users" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046054 21:41:30 danwent: great thanks 21:41:51 vishy: you'll look into it and dispatch ? 21:42:01 ttx: yes i will take it right now 21:42:15 Cool. I wanted to have a closer look into three bugs: 21:42:22 bug 1002814 - fix proposed looks risky 21:42:22 Launchpad bug 1002814 in nova "Instance stuck in reboot on libvirt failure" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1002814 21:42:58 vishy: oh, I see you took it 21:43:09 vishy: feeling confident it's not too disruptive ? 21:43:32 as in... changes behavior in potentially weird ways ? 21:43:50 ttx: I think it is relatively minor 21:43:58 ttx: but we will see what happens in review 21:44:05 bug 1039665 (https://review.openstack.org/11923) 21:44:05 Launchpad bug 1039665 in nova "Creating quantum L2 networks (without subnets) doesn't work as expected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039665 21:44:13 This one may not be appropriate at this point 21:44:20 as noted in review 21:44:52 Should we remove the bug from RC1 ? 21:46:32 hmm 21:46:50 so there is apparently no way to fix the bug without the potentially invasive rewrite: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11923/ 21:46:59 i think the rewrite is good, but it might be a little risky 21:47:27 so i guess our options are: a) mark it as a known issue, put the fix in after folsom and mark it for backport once it has been running for a bit 21:47:38 or b) merge it and risk potential breakage 21:47:46 I vote a 21:48:00 The bug doesn't really seem nasty enough risk b to me 21:48:09 ok so lets untarget it and mark it in the release notes 21:48:11 :q 21:48:14 ack 21:48:16 Doh!, sorry. 21:48:16 Finally bug 1048869 (https://review.openstack.org/12749) 21:48:17 Launchpad bug 1048869 in nova "Regular user can't boot with requested ip" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048869 21:48:38 markmc rightly pointed the change in behavior ? 21:48:41 what is the issue with that one? 21:49:33 Was wondering if there was clear consensus this was a bug 21:49:35 so the behavior of locking it down is configurable by a) disabling os-networks extension or b) setting a policy to admin only 21:50:01 ttx: it is definitely a bug because even if it is limited to admins by default, it should be using policy not erroring based on a db call 21:50:18 I guess that can be solved from within the review. Just wanted to single it out 21:50:30 i can put the default policy to restrict it to admins if we are worried about behavior changing, but I would argue that is a bad default 21:51:00 vishy: ok, let's work out a solution in the review itself 21:51:05 jgriffith mentioned bug 1042904 21:51:05 Launchpad bug 1042904 in nova "can't update volume and snapshot display_name" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042904 21:51:20 * markmc wasn't objecting to fixing bug #1048869 - just a comment on the fix 21:51:20 Launchpad bug 1048869 in nova "Regular user can't boot with requested ip" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048869 21:52:06 Nova and Cinder should coordinate whether they want it in RC1 or not 21:52:12 (1042904) 21:52:16 opinions ? 21:52:30 if it is in cinder we should merge it 21:52:50 vishy: I think jgriffith point was that he was about to drop it ? 21:52:52 vishy: I shot it down pending input from you guys on whether you wanted to deal with it at this stage or not 21:53:11 jgriffith: it seems like a lot to add this late so if you are ok waiting, we can put it in grizzly 21:53:26 vishy: I'm fine with waiting.. clay on the other hand :) 21:53:34 jgriffith: it is definitely a useful feature 21:53:42 but it doesn't really seem like a bug fix :9 21:53:47 but a feature. 21:53:50 vishy: Yes, I was just conerned about the large change at this stage for nova 21:53:57 ok, punt it 21:54:00 No... it's not a bug IMO 21:54:26 it is well tested though :) 21:54:32 yes grizzly imo 21:54:34 vishy/jgriffith: ok for removing folsom-rc1 targeting from it ? 21:54:43 sounds like it 21:54:45 The rest are under review and looking good 21:54:54 In the review pipe we also have what looks like a Cinder sync patch: 21:55:00 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12575/ (markmc) 21:55:16 If we want that in, we migth want to cover it with a targeted bug so that we can track it 21:55:21 vishy: Anything else ? 21:55:30 didn't we have blanket approval for syncing from cinder? 21:55:42 ttx: markmc that's what i thought? 21:55:57 markmc: not a question of approval, more a question of making sure it's in before we cut RC1 21:56:14 i have nothing else 21:56:15 and we (me) definitely want that one in.. just needs a A 21:56:16 to find about it I had to look at open reviews 21:56:34 I'd hate if we overlooked it and cut RC1 without it 21:56:41 ttx: me too :) 21:56:43 ttx, so a "sync from cinder to nova" bug ? 21:56:59 because there is a bunch of todo items still there AFAIR 21:57:04 markmc: yes, so that it appears on the "remaining tasks before RC1" list 21:57:05 http://etherpad.openstack.org/cinder-to-nova-sync 21:57:27 then we can list all the reviews there 21:57:28 jgriffith, wanna file the bug - you know the status better than me 21:57:34 jgriffith: I want it too :) 21:57:38 Questions on Nova ? 21:57:40 re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12816/ 21:57:52 markmc: sure... but if someobdy wants to just approve it we can skip it for this one 21:58:00 vishy: from the looks of it, looks like you may be ready for RC1 Friday/Monday ? 21:58:11 yes 21:58:14 markmc: I'll file a bug and modify the commit message 21:58:16 jgriffith, we're talking about filing a single bug to track all cinder->nova syncing tasks 21:58:25 #info Nova RC1 maybe Friday/Monday 21:58:26 markmc: Ahh... k... on it 21:58:31 jgriffith, wouldn't bother adding to the commit messages 21:58:41 #topic Horizon status 21:58:45 lol... next time nova gets to go last ;-) 21:58:45 gabrielhurley: hey 21:58:52 haha 21:58:56 #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/folsom-rc1 21:59:07 Looks like you're all set ? Anything we should wait for ? 21:59:08 everything's closed and release notes are up: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/releases/2012_2.html 21:59:15 nothing to wait for that I'm aware of 21:59:19 gabrielhurley: OK, then we can cut the branch together after meeting ? 21:59:24 Needs a bit of coordination between us 21:59:24 whenever you like 21:59:33 ok, will ping you in a few minutes 21:59:35 k 21:59:38 gabrielhurley: anything else you wanted to mention ? 21:59:43 not that I know of 21:59:47 Questions for Horizon ? 22:00:10 #info Horizon RC1 probably early tomorrow 22:00:22 ttx: when do new PTLs take charge? 22:00:22 #topic Other Team reports 22:01:13 bcwaldon: they are the PTLs for Grizzly, so when Grizzly opens :) Then there is a grey area for current release 22:01:33 where both people are PTLs 22:01:36 ttx, wondering whether we should do a 2012.1.3 to close out stable/essex 22:01:41 ttx: ok, carry on 22:01:50 * markmc isn't fully on top of stable/essex status right now 22:01:56 me neither 22:02:01 but there's at least 10 fixes queued up in nova 22:02:07 markmc: I can find some for glance, too 22:02:09 annegentle: wanted to do a doc update ? 22:02:13 there's one or two queued for horizon too 22:02:15 wait until after folsom is cut, then do 2012.1.3? 22:02:24 markmc: sounds preferable 22:02:25 whatever you're comfortable with 22:02:29 cool 22:02:39 we can do it between release and summit 22:02:49 #topic Open discussion 22:03:01 #info Quantum PTL election under way, closing EOD Thursday. 22:03:08 #info Remember to join the Foundation before the end of day Thursday if you want to be able to vote for the last three members of the Technical Committee 22:03:19 Anything else, anyone ? 22:03:45 #info summit.openstack.org is open for Design Summit sessions proposal 22:04:22 #endmeeting