21:00:46 #startmeeting project 21:00:47 Meeting started Tue May 14 21:00:46 2013 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:48 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:50 The meeting name has been set to 'project' 21:00:58 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:01:09 Usual stuff. Two weeks left in havana-1, will look into the havana-1 plans with an eye on postponing stuff 21:01:21 #topic General stuff 21:01:32 2013.1.1 was released last week 21:01:47 annegentle, jeblair/mordred, sdague/davidkranz: Anything from Docs/Infra/QA teams ? 21:01:55 o/ 21:02:17 Anything anyone wants to raise that affects all projects ? 21:02:22 o/ 21:02:41 jeblair: is that a yes ? 21:02:51 or just a hello ? 21:02:53 we're talking about remote summit participation in the infra team meetings, so stop by next week if you want to contribute 21:03:06 that was a yes. 21:03:17 [eol] 21:03:32 anything else ? 21:04:07 there is a discussion about copyright headers on legal-discuss that you may want to intervene in. 21:04:17 ok, let's go per-project now 21:04:25 #topic Oslo status 21:04:30 markmc: hi! 21:04:34 howdy 21:04:35 #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/havana-1 21:04:54 significant progress since... this morning. 21:05:08 I'd say correlation-id and object-serialization are very likely to make it 21:05:14 the others, it's hard to say 21:05:18 trusted-messaging is marked as depending on keystone/key-distribution-server, which is a bit... not in havana plans yet 21:05:25 good chance, but couldn't guarantee any of them 21:05:30 well 21:05:35 how much is that actually blocked by it ? 21:05:36 yeah, I should talk to simo about that 21:05:43 we could land the code in oslo without that 21:05:53 but whether that would achieve anything useful ... 21:06:07 so, good point 21:06:26 you can remove the dep if it's not a hard dep, and replace it by a mention in the blueprint description 21:06:38 Questions about Oslo ? 21:06:39 yeah 21:06:46 oh, wiki page 21:06:55 wiki page ? 21:06:59 I basically re-wrote it 21:06:59 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo 21:07:13 hopefully that answers most of the questions I was hearing at the summit 21:07:37 there are some details about making hacking and pbr part of oslo that monty and I will work out 21:07:46 cool, will review it 21:07:51 oh, another thought 21:08:03 nothing in havana is yet using oslo.config from havana 21:08:12 they're all till using 2013.1 or whatever 21:08:18 another thing I should fix 21:08:33 that's me 21:08:59 ok 21:09:02 #topic Keystone status 21:09:04 o/ 21:09:06 dolphm: o/ 21:09:09 #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-1 21:09:29 dolphm: keystone-ldap-anonymous-binding isn't started yet, do you still think it will make it ? 21:09:41 yes, it should be a very simple implementation 21:10:08 Looking at the more general havana plan... any idea who plans to work on store-quota-data and pluggable-remote-user ? 21:10:43 store-quota-data, i'd have to go back and look at the summit etherpad 21:10:51 pluggable-remote-user, either myself or possibly gyee 21:10:59 gyee is on a pluggable spree 21:11:03 dolphm: ok, fill them out if you already know 21:11:09 i'll talk to him 21:11:26 keeping you busy with security fixes during this milestone 21:11:34 Anything more about Keystone ? 21:11:36 otherwise, i think it's fairly realistic to see an m2-targetted blueprint or two completed in time for m1 21:11:49 that would be great. 21:12:13 i did want to mention that the bug in our release notes concerns read-only LDAP uses cases in havana has slipped to 2013.1.2 21:12:24 s/concerns/concerning/ 21:12:39 that's it from me 21:12:47 dolphm: could you quickfix the release notes ? 21:13:05 ttx: they're up to date: "Read-only LDAP deployments using the bundled identity driver still requires a default domain to be created in LDAP (fix in progress for 2013.1.2)." 21:13:21 oh, ok. Known bug. 21:13:24 thx! 21:13:27 #topic Ceilometer status 21:13:33 jd__: o/ 21:13:38 #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-1 21:13:39 o/ 21:13:57 Good progress... 21:14:05 thank you! :) 21:14:11 All on track ? 21:14:25 so far so good, I've pinged Toni about his blueprint because I'm worried 21:14:45 I've the feeling his patchset is going to be big and will have some rework 21:14:50 we didn't see anything for weeks 21:15:01 so I might postpone it for havana-2 if no progress, anyway that's no blocker 21:15:01 I won't say "not a big deal if it slips" because you have so many in the pipe... 21:15:16 Looking into the general plan at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/havana now 21:15:21 ttx: well, at least it doesn't block anything else :) 21:15:32 There is still a bit of milestone targeting needing to be done 21:15:39 jd__: right :) 21:15:53 A few of those untargeted blueprints are actually started: hbase-metadata-query, alarm-api, add-event-table... 21:15:53 yeah, I'm having a hard time pushing people to assign bp and milestone 21:16:41 once it's assigned, it's just a matter of asking the assignee when he thinks, roughly, it will land 21:17:10 yup, I'll do that :) 21:17:51 Your plan is pretty ambitious already at 45 blueprints. 21:17:59 Note that it's better to postpone stuff early rather than communicate false hopes to people :) 21:18:07 Questions on Ceilometer ? 21:18:15 ttx: fair enough :) 21:18:54 #topic Swift status 21:18:57 notmyname: o/ 21:18:58 hi 21:19:01 #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.1 21:19:18 notmyname: About https://blueprints.launchpad.net/swift/+spec/proxy-affinity-writes, should it be considered "Started" ? 21:19:22 Saw code in WIP at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27431/ 21:19:51 ya, I saw that too 21:19:59 but I hadn't had a chance to review it yet 21:20:15 basically 1.8.1 will be the completion of the global cluster features 21:20:16 notmyname: if work is started we can update status 21:20:23 and I was just looking at the separate replication patches 21:20:56 proxy-affinity-writes is not directly linked to global cluster ? 21:21:16 yes, if work has started, we can update the status. the author didn't reference the blueprint, and I hadn't had a chance to see if it actually matches, so I hadn't updated anything yet 21:21:21 yes, it's related 21:21:39 notmyname: Will update status for you. anything you wanted to raise ? 21:21:59 can I update the status after I have a change to look at the code? 21:22:09 the other thing to mention is swift api work 21:22:27 notmyname: sure, I'll revert my status change then 21:22:43 work is continuing on https://wiki.openstack.org/Swift/API to define the functionality that wil be defined as swift api v1.0 21:23:32 Anything more on Swift ? 21:23:38 work will be continuing to define this and then move on to next versions of the api 21:24:15 that's all from me 21:24:22 thanks! 21:24:38 #topic Glance status 21:24:43 markwash: o/ 21:24:47 #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-1 21:24:49 ahoy 21:24:56 a very few recent changes there 21:25:06 Good progress... api-v2-property-protection isn't started yet ? 21:25:28 folks are now getting together to plan out the nitty gritty details 21:25:31 I'm sure that one will slip 21:25:50 I'll get another opinion about h2 vs h3 from them next monday 21:26:04 markwash: let's move it to h2 already 21:26:08 +1 21:26:12 will do 21:26:18 Looking into the general havana plan now @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/havana 21:26:34 multiple image locations seems stalled out as well 21:26:40 Still a lot of stuff without a milestone target set... should we consider those all targeted to havana-3 ? 21:27:15 not for all of them, unfortunately 21:27:23 I'll make sure that page looks pretty by thursday during the glance meeting 21:27:29 great! 21:27:36 #action markwash target all the blueprints 21:27:48 re: not all of them -- yes, support-for-multipart-form-data-contenttype and hypervisor-templates-as-glance-images are already started... 21:28:00 so probably not that far from completion 21:28:04 Anything more on Glance ? 21:28:12 those are sort of dark horses, though 21:28:17 so I don't know about their velocity yet 21:28:24 nothing more from me 21:28:27 dark horses. I like that. 21:28:39 markwash: thx! 21:28:48 #topic Quantum status 21:28:52 markmcclain: hi! 21:28:55 hi 21:28:57 #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/havana-1 21:29:54 catching up with recent changes :) 21:30:10 yeah.. had a few folks try to sneak two bps into h1 21:30:31 portbinding-ex-db looks implemented to me ? 21:31:06 or is there more to it ? 21:31:29 Same question for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/api-core-for-services (targeted to havana-2) 21:31:37 there's another review associated with it that is not linked 21:31:53 good then 21:31:59 api-core will have 2 reviews 21:32:04 only 1 has been submitted 21:32:04 Good progress overall... except remove-use-of-quantum which is still pending the choice of the new name :) 21:32:15 TPFKAQ 21:32:23 Looking into the general havana plan now: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/havana 21:32:37 russellb: do you have a pronunciation :) 21:32:58 markmcclain: it's like the-artist-formerly-known-as-prince, you couldn't pronounce that symbol either 21:33:09 haha 21:33:13 markmcclain: You might want to add https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-vpnaas-ipsec-ssl, since it's a dependency of vpnaas-python-apis 21:33:31 Looks like you're almost done with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/havana/+setgoals 21:33:31 I will.. they just agreed yesterday exactly what was in it 21:33:37 Anything else on Quantum ? 21:33:50 not from me 21:34:03 do we have jgriffith ? 21:34:41 hello! 21:34:44 we do have jgriffith 21:34:47 :) 21:34:52 #topic Cinder status 21:34:55 #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-1 21:35:26 I'll be moving state machine to H2 21:35:26 looks like this is all a bit late, anything you'd like to defer now ? 21:35:34 ok 21:35:48 that one and I need to contact xing Yang regarding her FC support 21:35:56 Feeling confident for the "started" ones ? 21:36:04 so far yes 21:36:10 Most are coming along nicely 21:36:17 a few should land before the end of the week 21:36:27 ok, beware of the review queue toward the end of the milestone 21:36:33 Looking into the general havana plan @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/havana 21:37:01 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/volume-migration should have a priority set 21:37:13 on it 21:37:34 I actually would like to work with Avishay and break that one up a bit 21:37:37 otherwise looking pretty good 21:37:47 It's a bit too general as it is right now for my liking 21:37:57 I'll try and catch him tonight and sort that 21:37:59 yes, those kind tend to never be completed 21:38:04 :) 21:38:09 Anything more about Cinder ? 21:38:14 or they're not what anybody wants :) 21:38:18 Nope, that's it for me 21:38:31 #topic Nova status 21:38:35 russellb: o/ 21:38:39 #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-1 21:38:41 hi! 21:38:51 Getting a bit late, still feeling optimistic ? 21:38:59 for all of this? no :-) 21:39:06 i've starting pushing some things back today 21:39:16 will continue to do so over the next week as i'm able to catch up with people 21:39:25 use-db-time and remove-instance-fault-table are targeted but not started yet 21:39:34 use-db-time is quick and easy 21:39:54 the other probably won't make it, but figured i'd give it a few days in case code magically appears 21:40:46 otherwise you got them all triaged, as of 5 minutes ago 21:40:54 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/havana/+setgoals has a new one :) 21:40:55 haha, yeah. 21:41:02 as of about 1 minute ago 21:41:16 * russellb fixes it up 21:41:37 good now 21:41:54 live-migration-to-conductor (High) depends on query-scheduler (Medium) -- which one should be adjusted ? 21:42:20 query-scheduler should go to high, then 21:42:26 ok will do 21:42:28 Any question on Nova ? 21:42:41 question from me 21:42:48 do we have a page i can point people on blueprint process? 21:43:13 i spend a lot of time telling people which fields to set, etc., to get it on my radar 21:43:20 I'd say https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle, and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints 21:43:33 ok will check those out, thanks 21:43:56 They may need some updates, but that's the reference doc 21:44:06 k, will review / propose updates as needed 21:44:06 #topic Heat status 21:44:13 shardy: hi! 21:44:15 hi 21:44:17 #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-1 21:44:54 russellb: there is also https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTLguide but that's more for PTL and drivers. 21:45:16 shardy: havana-1 looks in good progress 21:45:28 ttx: I think we're in good shape for h1, apart from a few of the networking bugs may slip 21:45:34 Looking into the general havana plan @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/havana now 21:45:37 need to speak to stevebaker and jpeeler to confirm 21:46:16 Could still use a bit more target milestones... but I see progress :) 21:46:47 ttx: Yes, I've started putting things I think will get done, or which I'd like to see done for h2 21:46:48 a number of those untargeted blueprints are already started, like watch-ceilometer or function-plugins 21:47:07 so their assignee should have an idea of when he will complete them 21:47:19 but a lot of promised contributions are being slow to materialize, so I'm still playing wait-and-see on some of the bigger stuff expected later in the cycle 21:47:46 shardy: it's not a big deal to keep low prio stuff untargeted 21:47:59 A bit more embarassing for High prio stuff 21:48:10 ttx: I'll speak to asalkeld and zaneb to get updates on when those will land 21:48:16 since High means, you really want it in the release 21:48:41 shardy: That's all I had for you. anything you wanted to mention ? 21:48:50 one question 21:49:02 you asked for havana roadmap emails to the list last week 21:49:15 yep, those would be nice 21:49:30 which list - do you want user-focussed ones to the openstack list? 21:49:35 or xpost to both? 21:49:57 xpost is evil 21:49:59 xpost is evil. Post to openstack-dev only. I saw russellb pushed one to his blog, that's fine too 21:50:01 wasn't sure how to pitch it so wanted to clarify 21:50:18 Ok, thanks 21:50:24 I'm pretty sure reed will pick those up and mention them in the newsletter 21:50:30 i should stop xposting myself :) 21:50:39 so they will get attention, without the drawbacks of cross-posting 21:50:48 Questions about Heat ? 21:50:49 ttx: yeah, was hoping newsletter would get it 21:51:11 if it's on planet there are highest chances it will make it to the newsletter 21:51:25 #topic Horizon status 21:51:29 gabrielhurley: hey 21:51:31 hi 21:51:33 #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/havana-1 21:51:44 Progress is a bit slow... 21:51:52 it's kinda borderline 21:51:56 things are moving along 21:52:11 the keystone stuff has been significantly slowed by getting some reviews through on keystoneclient 21:52:18 but I still have confidence in those 21:53:06 I'm not ready to bump any *quite* yet 21:53:12 admin-group-crud is not started... is it simple enough to be completed in the two remaining weeks ? 21:53:14 but I am gonna be tightening in on people this week 21:53:18 yeah, it is 21:53:23 ok 21:53:35 Questions on Horizon ? 21:53:43 by-and-large none of these will be showstoppers if they *do* slip, though 21:54:03 gabrielhurley: right, you got the essential under control 21:54:27 gabrielhurley: anything else you wanted to mention ? 21:54:32 nope 21:54:36 ok then 21:54:37 #topic Incubated projects 21:54:46 hub_cap, devananda: welcome! 21:54:53 \o/ 21:54:58 Any question ? 21:56:02 o/ 21:56:10 nope. just following along and learning :) 21:56:38 devananda: first step is getting that repo set up :) 21:56:57 yep... not a lot of real activity yet as a result 21:57:04 devananda: do you have seed code ready to fill it ? 21:57:08 i'v e got a review up for that, just waiting on jeblair 21:57:09 and yes 21:57:17 https://github.com/devananda/ironic 21:57:35 working on some skeleton docs and will be posting BPs soon 21:57:47 so that once there is a repo, folks can begin claiming parts of it and working in parallel 21:57:54 reddwarf still needs to move, but i guess it can wait for the name vet first 21:58:16 devananda: hopefully should be all set today 21:58:25 :) 21:58:31 ok, if you have no question, I guess I can close the meeting 21:58:40 anything else, anyone ? 22:00:08 ok then 22:00:10 #endmeeting