21:01:41 #startmeeting project 21:01:42 Meeting started Tue Jun 18 21:01:41 2013 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01:46 The meeting name has been set to 'project' 21:01:47 o/ 21:01:58 Mutnauq will go first as markmcclain has a conflict 21:02:03 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:02:15 After the general stuff though 21:02:17 #topic General stuff 21:02:37 FWIW I'm looking into improvements in the way we are tracking blueprints, so that we can avoid the whole "series goal" nonsense in the future. 21:02:49 Should post about that this week. In the meantime we'll continue to care about it. 21:02:53 +1 21:02:59 sdague: around ? 21:02:59 +1 21:03:28 annegentle, jeblair/mordred: news from Docs/Infra teams ? 21:04:12 Here's my latest doc update 21:04:15 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2013-June/001963.html 21:04:23 ttx: wel ... 21:04:39 ttx: jeblair and zaro landed gearman-based zuul! 21:04:44 We're holding "office hours" Mondays at 16:00 UTC 21:04:47 ttx: you should all be super excited and impressed 21:04:50 also 21:04:54 annegentle: I really like that idea 21:05:07 ttx: it went great yesterday 21:05:11 per sdague: this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1192131 is killing us right now 21:05:12 Launchpad bug 1192131 in nova "giant race in quantum - quantumclient key errors break creation of guests in nova" [Critical,In progress] 21:05:23 mordred: yes, that's the one I wanted to raise 21:05:26 great 21:05:32 One outcome is a new wiki page listing location of source of docs 21:05:34 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Builds 21:05:36 but everyone shoudl rejoice about gearman-zuul 21:05:40 that's all I've 21:05:48 sdague is not around, but I guess we can have markmcclain/russellb's opinion on that bug 21:05:56 annegentle: thx! 21:06:17 oh, so, i put up a patch that i sorta hoped might fix it 21:06:33 russellb: so nothing needs to land on Quantum's side ? 21:06:41 (or tempest ?) 21:06:45 just checked, and it didn't fix it 21:06:47 so nevermind. 21:07:39 so, still not sure what the root cause is 21:07:50 russellb/markmcclain: any chance you could gather and look into it in more detail ? Or delegate that to domain experts ? 21:08:19 while chatting in #openstack-nova earlier, sdague said garyk was looking at it ... haven't followed up since though 21:08:20 yeah… let me see if I can get the folks who work on the nova/quantum integration to dig 21:08:39 markmcclain: cool 21:08:41 cool 21:08:52 #topic Quantum status 21:08:56 markmcclain: hi! 21:09:00 hi 21:09:03 #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/havana-2 21:09:12 Looks like you're reasonably on track... 21:09:19 About remove-use-of-quantum, do you have good news to announce ? 21:09:48 yeah.. we've finally got a new name: neutron 21:09:54 yay! 21:10:01 #info Quantum to be renamed to Neutron 21:10:07 :) 21:10:13 same number of letters, nice 21:10:16 ohhhh snap 21:11:01 markmcclain: do you have a transition plan ? 21:11:10 sed ? 21:11:15 Was discussing with jeblair earlier and the repo rename might be tricky 21:11:15 Neutron, nice 21:11:26 I've been chatting with mordred and the folks on infra 21:11:27 given that it's part of the gate 21:11:44 ttx: we talked about it a bit at the infra meeting 21:11:51 it's going to be fun 21:11:52 jeblair: cool 21:12:19 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33393/ is a stab at one of the first steps (almost certainly not done/complete) 21:12:26 markmcclain/jeblair: any timeframe for the transition ? 21:12:51 short version: merge compatibility changes to projects, then force changes to devstack and devstack-gate during the repo rename downtime. 21:13:28 Something we can complete by the end of the month, you think ? 21:13:40 ttx: not sure on timeframe yet. depends on how long it takes to get the compat changes landed 21:13:47 mordred: ack 21:14:01 markmcclain: anything you wanted to raise ? 21:14:19 the name change is the big one 21:14:26 Questions on Quantum ? 21:14:31 Neutron! 21:14:32 err... Neutron ? 21:14:41 * mordred weeps for mutnauq 21:14:41 markmcclain: i like it :) 21:15:04 * ttx weeps for Quadric 21:15:09 russellb: it only took 11 tries to make the lawyers happy 21:15:18 #topic Oslo status 21:15:21 markmcclain, wow, 11 21:15:22 markmc: hi! 21:15:35 so two things before I forget 21:15:43 Protip: next time, pick an imaginary name for your project please 21:15:45 do we have a list of those that got turned down? 21:15:51 first is looks like quantum can finally use oslo-1.2.0a2: https://review.openstack.org/33429 21:16:03 thanks to the pbr fixes in pbr-0.5.15 21:16:04 #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/havana-2 21:16:28 and I've proposed oslo.messaging repo for import to gerrit: https://review.openstack.org/33420 21:16:38 Good progress overall... 21:16:42 #info quantum can finally use oslo-1.2.0a2: https://review.openstack.org/33429 21:16:56 #info oslo.messaging repo proposed for import to gerrit: https://review.openstack.org/33420 21:17:04 markmc: Do you have a way forward for trusted-messaging now ? 21:17:20 ttx, still blocked on the kds work in keystone 21:17:24 * markmc checks for updates 21:17:36 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/key-distribution-server 21:17:41 I know there's code 21:17:44 but not yet proposed 21:17:57 hmm, that one will definitely be a close one 21:18:04 http://fedorapeople.org/cgit/simo/public_git/keystone.git/log/?h=shared-key-msg 21:18:11 I can't see it making havana-2 21:18:16 *maybe* havana-3 21:18:32 markmc: maybe defer it then to h3 21:18:42 there's a lot needs to land before this is usable with all projects in havana 21:18:54 ttx, yeah, do you prefer to defer early and pull back into h2 if needs be? 21:18:59 yes 21:19:01 if so, I might defer a bunch of stuff 21:19:11 but stuff that might well make it 21:19:24 it's all about communicating reasonable expectations. People need to be pleasantly surprised from time to time 21:19:33 ok 21:19:45 Random remark: oslo-sqlalchemy-utils (Medium) depends on test-migrations (Low) 21:19:55 ok 21:19:56 On the bugs side you have https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1182842 which is rated "Critical" 21:19:57 Launchpad bug 1182842 in oslo "Publish oslo.config docs" [Critical,Triaged] 21:20:02 Anything going on on this one ? Should we reduce its importance ? 21:20:03 I don't think it does depend on it, really 21:20:06 * markmc looks to fix 21:20:21 reduced to High 21:20:24 markmc: anything you wanted to raise ? 21:20:30 not from me 21:20:31 Questions about Oslo ? 21:20:50 #topic Keystone status 21:20:52 o/ 21:20:55 dolphm_: : o/ 21:21:03 You had an action in last week meeting: "dolphm to clarify progress on keystoneclient support for trusts and report on heat-trusts bp whiteboard" 21:21:37 dolphm_: did you get further info from ayoung ? 21:21:46 ttx: yes, let me find that convo 21:22:04 ttx: I've offered to take a look at adding it 21:22:13 not quite got to it yet 21:22:24 dolphm_/shardy: just update the whiteboard at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/heat-trusts with updated info 21:22:30 #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-2 21:22:39 Slow progress... 21:23:02 inherited-domain-roles is still "Not started" ? 21:23:18 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+spec/delegation-impersonation-support 21:23:22 shardy: assigned ^ 21:23:39 I saw discussion about it but not sure it will make h2 at this point 21:23:39 ttx: inherited domain roles impl is not started, but we've been having a *lot* of discussion around the api 21:23:48 ok 21:23:48 it's very much in progress, just not on the python side yet 21:23:52 Also what's the status of delegated-auth-via-oauth ? 21:24:03 just went into code review this week 21:24:03 Missed h1 and looks stuck 21:24:08 oh, ok 21:24:19 we should see progress "soon" then 21:24:22 dolphm: Anything more about Keystone ? 21:24:24 dolphm_: thanks, I've updated the heat-trusts whiteboard 21:24:37 shardy: thank you for jumping in! 21:24:53 Questions anyone ? 21:24:54 dolphm_: np, figured I'd help out since we need it! :) 21:25:17 #topic Ceilometer status 21:25:21 jd__: hey 21:25:25 #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-2 21:25:43 I think you are on track... 21:25:56 so far I think so too, we're just lacking some code reviews lately 21:25:57 jd__: Was work started on one-meter-per-plugin and alarm-actioner ? 21:26:27 ttx: nop, though I'm not worried about these 21:26:41 ok... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/havana/+setgoals has two blueprints proposed 21:26:54 Looking at bugs, I see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1189848 ... was that one finally solved for you ? 21:26:55 Launchpad bug 1189848 in ceilometer "pbr >= 0.5.12 breaks ceilometer tests" [Critical,In progress] 21:27:14 yes we're good fortunately now 21:27:28 Should that bug be marked invalid / FixCommitted ? 21:27:39 just set fix committed 21:27:41 I just set fix committed 21:27:45 cool 21:27:48 jd__: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:27:56 bananas 21:28:01 that's all 21:28:03 Questions on Ceilometer ? 21:28:22 #topic Swift status 21:28:25 hi 21:28:26 notmyname: o/ 21:28:31 I saw your 1.9.0 plans, with the June 27th target release date 21:28:38 yup 21:28:40 When do you want to freeze for QA, i.e. when should I cut milestone-proposed ? 21:28:53 sometimes near the end of this week ? 21:29:00 friday probably 21:29:12 ok, well just let keep me posted 21:29:20 really, we're waiting on a few key patches rather than the date 21:29:22 swift/__init__.py still has _version = Version('1.8.1', False) atm. 21:29:31 Want me to propose a ('1.9.0', False) version bump ? 21:29:32 correct. I'll update that before the QA cut 21:29:35 ok 21:29:49 notmyname: anything else you wanted to raise ? 21:30:08 we just added a new core team member yesterday: Peter Portante from Red Hat 21:30:15 that's all I have 21:30:24 Questions about Swift ? 21:30:59 #topic Glance status 21:31:01 notmyname: anything specific you want for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28892/ 21:31:12 #undo 21:31:13 Removing item from minutes: 21:31:29 notmyname: (swift and glance are the last holdouts - just wanted to make sure if I needed to do something it was on my radar) 21:31:36 mordred: we're having some issues with pbr right now. I'll talk to you tomorrow about it 21:31:45 mordred: we will not merge that for 1.9.0 21:31:52 notmyname: ok 21:32:02 #topic Glance status 21:32:08 markwash: o/ 21:32:13 hello! 21:32:16 #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-2 21:32:20 * markwash just ran ttx.sh :-/ 21:32:26 Slow progress overall... 21:32:42 markwash: was wondering if membership-policy should be considered complete with the merge of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29296/ 21:32:52 ttx yes 21:32:57 ok will do 21:33:04 iccha has two high-prio blueprints (api-v2-property-protection, upload-download-workflow) and none of those appears to be started... 21:33:28 upload-download-workflow has been split up 21:33:32 and I just need to remove it 21:33:40 which is not to say we don't have a bandwidth problem at this point 21:33:58 but i have some very specific work commitments from a lot of the contributors I am tracking 21:34:19 ok 21:34:31 Same for alex-meade and async-glance-workers, not started 21:34:33 I can start taking a guess at what will pop off of havana at this point 21:34:46 ttx I'm actually the blocker on that bp 21:35:09 and it is in progress 21:35:23 ok, will mark it started then 21:35:30 Note that you have two DB blueprints proposed at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/havana/+setgoals 21:35:52 On the critical bugs side, you have: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1155389 21:35:53 Launchpad bug 1155389 in swift "Multi-tenant swift store image sharing doesn't work" [Undecided,In progress] 21:35:59 Do you still need Swift input there ? 21:36:13 ttx: yes, I saw some patches proposed that would fix things 21:36:30 basically what is needed there is for swift acls to come in line with their api documentation 21:37:19 ok, wel we'll see if they make 1.9.0 21:37:27 markwash: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:37:36 not at this time, thank you 21:37:37 Questions on Glance ? 21:38:04 #topic Cinder status 21:38:09 jgriffith: hola! 21:38:13 #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-2 21:38:15 hey ya 21:38:33 making progress :) 21:38:38 Good progress overall, nothing critical on the list 21:38:47 Nope, all med's and lows 21:38:47 You should encourage people to submit early :) 21:38:51 except bugs 21:38:57 trying :) 21:39:05 you have 3 blueprints proposed @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/havana/+setgoals 21:39:09 I've already threatened a Cinder dealine one week prior 21:39:27 aye 21:39:43 I need to start checking those on more regular basis (people keep sneaking things in) 21:39:51 (fwiw what i have in mind for bluepritns would get us rid of having to check for those "proposed" things) 21:39:58 ttx +1 21:40:01 yay! 21:40:09 So the netapp one is under review, that's easy 21:40:20 The second and third I have to talk to folks 21:40:26 ack 21:40:28 Not sure about those, and they seem big at this point 21:40:29 jgriffith: anything on your mind ? 21:40:50 I'm good 21:40:52 Questions on Cinder ? 21:41:15 #topic Nova status 21:41:20 russellb: hey 21:41:25 #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-2 21:41:41 Progress is not looking too bad, given the total number of blueprints... 21:41:42 hi 21:41:48 yeah, it's still all over the place 21:41:56 but i think we'll have a good amount of stuff delivered for havana-2 21:41:56 Lots of stuff in review already though 21:41:59 yeah 21:42:39 Random remark: db-api-tests-on-all-backends (High) depends on db-sync-models-with-migrations (Medium) 21:42:39 havana-3 is very very light compared to this 21:43:06 that will give time to plug feature gaps 21:43:08 will fix 21:43:14 russellb: anything else you wanted to mention ? 21:43:24 nope, don't think so, thanks 21:43:27 Any question on Nova ? 21:43:38 review all the things 21:43:50 #topic Heat status 21:43:57 shardy: o/ 21:44:00 hi! 21:44:05 #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-2 21:44:17 Looks like you're a bit behind... 21:44:28 In particular there are 4 "high" prio blueprints apparently not started yet ? 21:44:35 (json-parameters, resource-properties-schema, resource-template, stack-metadata) 21:44:38 I need to sync up with a few people at our meeting tomorrow, I think some of those at least are actually started 21:44:58 ok 21:45:10 we have a much lighter h3, so I'll start deferring those which are not 21:45:17 Random remark: native-in-instance-tools should have a priority 21:45:25 ok, will fix 21:45:28 Looking at critical bugs I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1192125 21:45:30 Launchpad bug 1192125 in heat "Autoscaling doesn't detect failed instance creation" [High,Triaged] 21:45:53 which is now "High" :) 21:45:59 Yep, I found that today, reduced to high as it was pointed out we've always done it.. 21:46:20 ok then :) 21:46:20 I initally thought it was a regression caused by recent changes 21:46:34 shardy: anything else you want to raise ? 21:46:47 no don't think so, thanks! 21:47:03 Questions about Heat ? 21:47:33 #topic Horizon status 21:47:38 gabrielhurley: o/ 21:47:39 \o 21:47:42 #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/havana-2 21:47:56 Looks on track, though it could use more final landings 21:48:05 Should "hacking" be considered complete with the merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32217/ ? 21:48:06 gonna admit, I'm not as up-to-date on where things are as usual... the last two weeks have been hectic for me. 21:48:17 I need to check in with everyone at the Horizon meeting after this 21:48:26 ok 21:48:39 Hacking has 3 main components, I'd have to make sure all three were taken care of 21:48:50 Could you check for me the status of the 3 "high" prio not started yet: realtime-spec, rpc-listener, rbac 21:49:00 yeah. two of those are me. 21:49:01 :-/ 21:49:22 You also have one "proposed" @ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/havana/+setgoals 21:49:25 status is they're not started but I still think they're doable 21:49:36 hmmm... interesting 21:49:39 hadn't noticed that one 21:49:51 we should have abetter view on h2 by next week 21:49:55 gabrielhurley: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:50:02 don't see any code proposed so probably not a target for H, but will follow up with the author 21:50:16 not really, I have some catching up to do. next week things will be eveident again. 21:50:24 Questions on Horizon ? 21:50:53 #topic Incubated projects 21:51:11 I know devananda is not around, is hub_cap here ? 21:51:30 heyo 21:51:34 Ironic stats is "in the middle of implementing several large BP's" 21:51:47 im here in spirit mostly, i have no electricity in my house :o 21:51:53 hub_cap: is the trove rename completed ? 21:51:59 the rename is mostly done 21:52:13 we are still dealing w/ the module rename tho, the scripts / tooling is updated 21:52:23 * ttx looks into jenkins jobs 21:52:25 ill finish the trove module rename in the next 24~hrs 21:52:43 also ttx the BPs didnt update like we chatted about yest but we can take that offline 21:52:58 we are also workig on clustering api (multimaster, master/slave) 21:53:27 jenkins jobs look up to date to me 21:53:37 BPs updating ? 21:53:45 (we have time, we can talk about it now) 21:54:01 example, clikc the "implements blueprint" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33412/ 21:54:47 is there a BP named that way ? Couldn't find it 21:55:17 * hub_cap smacks his head 21:55:21 hehe 21:55:31 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-troveclient/+spec/reddwarf-trove-rename 21:55:34 its in teh client 21:55:47 we need to do something to that to make up for it? 21:55:49 see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=volume-usage 21:55:59 hmm 21:56:24 You can fix the commit message if you have a blueprint to point it to 21:56:29 or create the missing blueprint 21:56:45 I for one would like to know when that's completed :) 21:56:55 hub_cap: lame idea maybe, but to start why not just use cinderclient and get the volume 21:57:00 hub_cap: then you'll have everything 21:57:37 jgriffith: highlighting on "volume", i see :) 21:57:51 HA 21:58:00 :) 21:58:06 hub_cap: anything else ? 21:58:11 questions ? 21:58:22 nope im good 21:58:35 cool then, 21:58:45 #endmeeting