21:01:59 #startmeeting project 21:02:00 Meeting started Tue Jul 2 21:01:59 2013 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:02:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:02:03 The meeting name has been set to 'project' 21:02:08 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:02:26 2 weeks left to H2 ! We'll spend a bit extra time on Neutron renaming plan progress and the proposed change in blueprint tracking 21:02:34 #topic General stuff 21:02:47 So I proposed a simplification in blueprint tracking process, removing the need to use the "series goal" in Launchpad which is not working so well 21:02:54 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-June/011055.html 21:03:01 TL;DR is: 21:03:13 We'd only use "Priority" to indicate how much we care about a given feature, instead of using a combination of Priority and Series Goal. Triaging blueprints would just be about setting a priority. 21:03:21 A script would regularly align "series goal" with the content of "milestone target" 21:03:39 Does that sound like a good idea to everyone? The change kinda needs to be applied across the board... 21:03:51 There are two pitfalls in the transition: 21:04:04 1. Your havana blueprints which don't have a target milestone set will drop off the havana series goal. You'll want to move them to the "future" series if you want to keep them on your radar 21:04:24 2. "Low" blueprints will now mean "may or may not make it, I don't really care". They are skipped in the release status view. You might want to promote a few to "Medium" to keep them on the roadmap. 21:04:37 If everyone agrees I'll create the "future" series with the "next" and "ongoing" milestones 21:04:39 ttx: when does (1) happen? 21:04:50 then send you a personal email about what changes to expect when the script will kick in, so that you can adjust things before it runs 21:04:58 notmyname: when the script kicks in ^ 21:05:03 ok :-) 21:05:34 ttx: will create on trove/iroinc too? 21:05:42 hub_cap: yes 21:06:19 <3 21:06:41 does silence means "oh yes please" ? 21:06:48 ttx, honestly, I'm probably being dense ... but I don't think I understand 21:06:57 ttx, but I also fully expect it'll be totally awesome 21:07:11 markmc: actually it can't really be worse. 21:07:12 ttx, so I'm cool with it :) 21:07:30 Lp series goal has been the bane of my existance. 21:07:51 ok, we'll see how it goes when you receive your personal email. 21:08:02 Won'ty enable the script openstack-wide until it's all set anyway 21:08:13 (I can run the script manually per project for the early adopters) 21:08:17 sdague, annegentle, jeblair/mordred: news from QA/Docs/Infra teams ? 21:08:32 ttx: we're a program now! 21:08:34 Security Guide book sprint finished last Friday, great stuff. 21:08:54 #link http://www.openstack.org/blog/2013/07/openstack-security-guide-now-available/ 21:08:57 to download the epub 21:08:59 gerrit downtime on saturday for neutron project rename 21:09:00 annegentle, congrats 21:09:04 #link http://aa4698cc2bf4ab7e5907-ed3df21bb39de4e57eec9a20aa0b8711.r41.cf2.rackcdn.com/OpenStackSecurityGuide.epub 21:09:11 still working on PDF, HTML, etc 21:09:21 details here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/neutron-renaming 21:09:57 ttx: [end] 21:10:07 jeblair, still looking for backup from core folks on other projects? 21:10:37 markmc: i think the latest plan (with which markmcclain will shortly update the wiki) shouldn't require it 21:10:46 jeblair, ok, cool 21:11:03 markmc: we restructured things to require less people and ensure that the gate can as normal as possible 21:11:16 markmcclain, great 21:12:10 #topic Oslo status 21:12:16 markmc: hi! 21:12:16 hello 21:12:20 #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/havana-2 21:12:29 not much change on blueprints 21:12:38 Still on track, I think... 21:12:42 ok 21:12:53 I knocked the apiclient one to havana-3, seems to have stalled a bit 21:12:54 but lots of reviews needed :) 21:12:56 bug 1182842 is targeted to the milestone but has no assignee ? 21:13:02 (which is probably reviewers fault more than the submitter) 21:13:25 ok, assigned myself 21:13:26 it's been defered a few times already so I'd rather remove it from milestone target than push it back again 21:13:29 made some progress on it today 21:13:30 ok 21:13:37 Should bug 1194807 (critical) be targeted to the milestone ? 21:13:46 where's the bot when you need it 21:14:06 done, thanks 21:14:15 so, on bug #1194807 21:14:22 I've a bunch of reviews up: 21:14:23 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I6f3eb5fd2c75615d9a1cae172aed859b36b27d4c,n,z 21:14:31 this time I've figured it out 21:14:40 (it's only the 4th or 5th time I've thought that) 21:14:43 this time for real 21:14:51 pip is subjugated to my will 21:14:59 but reviews would be nice :) 21:15:22 I think that's it for oslo 21:15:27 Questions about Oslo ? 21:15:39 * ttx can picture markmc as a snake charmer 21:15:46 subjugating pip 21:15:59 #topic Keystone status 21:16:03 henrynash: welcome! 21:16:06 thx! 21:16:08 #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-2 21:16:19 This is looking very late now, especially with two coredevs in vacation this week... 21:16:29 I think the whole havana plan will need a serious reality check when Dolph is back. 21:16:36 so a couple of things to note 21:16:40 We are creating expectations that are very unlikely to be fulfilled here, and Keystone is consumed by everyone else. 21:17:00 inherited roles are an extension, so (I believe) not strictly tied to H2 21:17:29 the only real api level changes are in 21:17:36 Provide an api to get all effective roles for a user 21:17:54 v3 Regaion API 21:18:09 henrynash: last week we said https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27563/ should be unblocked but nothing changed there. 21:18:28 yes (unfortunately I was on vacation last weel so catching up!) 21:18:49 what's this vacation thing you keystone folks always bring up 21:18:54 I think Adam said that he and Jay were coin go to work through that 21:19:04 hey, I know, the dog ate my homework 21:19:37 henrynash: Anything more about Keystone ? 21:19:57 Just wanted to check on the v3 auth for other client clis? 21:20:24 henrynash: err... what do you mean ? 21:20:34 last week (reading the logs) seems like we were going to start pushin gfor clients to be using the v3 auth cleitn libs from kestoneclient 21:21:08 (sorry, broke my finger scuba diving so can't type straight) 21:21:25 that sounds like a good idea, but it's difficult to mandate 21:22:04 henrynash: I think that should be pushed to the ML to see if you can find relays in other projects^Wprograms 21:22:06 what has to happen for (e.g. nova, glance) to start picking up the new client libs for auth? Who should I work with to help make it so 21:22:56 henrynash: difficult to find volunteers in this meeting, so ML is probably your best bet 21:23:08 ttx: ok, that's it for keystone 21:23:22 #help Keystone needs help pushing v3 API support in client libs 21:23:30 Question on keystone ? 21:23:42 #topic Ceilometer status 21:23:46 jd__: hey 21:23:49 #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-2 21:23:49 o/ 21:24:00 A bit late too. Code should be proposed by now... 21:24:04 Are all those still likely to make it ? 21:24:33 they should 21:24:52 dhellmann's one is this week or havana-3, I talked about it with him 21:25:14 Making progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1193906 ? 21:25:15 and we've some things already merge for the 2 from eglynn 21:25:49 ttx: no, I know how to fix, but I'm waiting for terry to do it actually (she's my intern) :) 21:26:02 ok, so under control :) 21:26:05 Should we target https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1194921 to havana-2 as well ? 21:26:36 I think we got it fixed on our side, but yes 21:26:45 jd__: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:26:50 all good 21:27:00 Questions on Ceilometer ? 21:27:24 #topic Swift status 21:27:27 hi! 21:27:28 notmyname: o/ 21:27:47 big release today: 1.9.0, now with full global clusters support http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-July/011221.html 21:27:49 So, nothing from me except congrats on the new release 21:27:57 woo! 21:28:11 created 1.9.1 to track "next" work, we can adjust number later 21:28:19 sounds good to me 21:28:21 notmyname: anything else you wanted to raise ? 21:28:39 nope 21:28:53 Questions about Swift ? 21:29:16 #topic Glance status 21:29:19 markwash: o/ 21:29:23 #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-2 21:29:30 o/ 21:29:32 hello 21:29:38 I did some cleaning, future and next really help! 21:29:43 looks reasonable 21:30:03 what about "Multiple Image Locations" ? Might be deferred ? 21:30:03 as long as we don't pull back the havana-3 curtain, very reasonable :-) 21:30:24 ttx: we have a lot of progress there that is in review, and I want us to push for it in h-2 21:30:42 ok, let's see if we can make it 21:30:59 glance-cinder-driver is marked as depending on a Nova blueprint, but that doesn't seem to be a strong prereq ? 21:31:13 I think the dependency is actually inverted there from how it should be 21:31:23 markwash: ok, will try to fix it 21:31:23 I was just too lazy to fix that last I noticed 21:31:33 is bug 1155389 unblocked with Swift 1.9.0 ? 21:31:44 https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1155389 21:31:45 I believe so, what is the release timetable for 1.9? 21:31:51 is it already available? 21:31:56 was released earlier today 21:32:14 great, then I can knock out our portion of the fix tout d'suite 21:32:47 markwash: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:32:51 nope 21:32:53 Questions on Glance ? 21:33:00 except thanks again 21:33:05 for future and next and ongoing 21:33:26 glad you find it more maintainable this way 21:33:32 #topic Neutron status 21:33:37 hi 21:33:39 markmcclain: hi! 21:33:42 #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/havana-2 21:33:57 Slightly behind, as I expect some delays due to renaming stuff before h2 21:34:02 The "High" stuff in particular is not really progressing that well ? 21:34:34 all of the high stuff is mostly written 21:34:59 2 are missing some unittests, so they're still semi-draft state 21:35:25 markmcclain: ok, maybe switch those to "Good progress" so that i'm under the impression they will make it :) 21:35:31 will do 21:35:40 Looking at targeted bugs, you have a number of them which have no assignee ? 21:36:18 would probably be good to assign them (or remove them from the milestone) if we want to see them fixed for h2 21:36:21 sorry.. I'll clean those up 21:36:31 About the renaming plan... this is where we track progress: 21:36:36 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/neutron-renaming 21:36:59 markmcclain: care to give a quick summary for the record ? 21:37:06 sure 21:37:35 we've worked to reduce the number of folks that need to be around for the rename 21:38:40 we're going to release a neutonclient into the package repo 21:38:57 so that we can begin the work to update the names in the other projects 21:39:12 these changes will go through the normal gate process 21:39:21 how long do you plan to keep the quantum-* name shims in neutron itself? at least until the release ? 21:39:44 the binary script names for atleast I 21:39:49 Icehouse 21:39:55 ok 21:40:12 the client compatibility shims we can leave up for longer but make them noisier over time 21:40:48 markmcclain: when do you plan to do the mega-name changes that will make Dreamhost the top Havana contributor ? 21:41:33 haha.. they'll start landing this week 21:41:34 (i.e. the s/quantum/neutron/g change in Neutron itself) 21:41:38 ok 21:41:42 surprisingly not as many lines as you'd think 21:41:46 markmcclain: anything else you wanted to raise ? 21:42:06 no 21:42:10 Questions on that renaming plan, or on Neutron in general ? 21:42:26 #topic Cinder status 21:42:31 jgriffith: hola! 21:42:33 * ttx speeds up 21:42:39 oops 21:42:45 o/ here 21:42:45 winston-d: hola! 21:42:49 #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-2 21:43:00 Progress looks not too bad, but time is running short :) 21:43:20 yeah, i personally check all bp/bugs today. 21:43:25 they are looking good. 21:43:28 didn't have anythign for you actually. 21:43:42 winston-d: anything on your mind ? 21:43:48 nope 21:44:02 Questions on Cinder ? 21:44:30 winston-d: keep on the good work I guess... and land as many as you can in the next two weeks 21:44:47 #topic Nova status 21:44:49 ttx: sure. we're working on that. 21:44:51 russellb: hey 21:44:52 hi 21:44:54 #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-2 21:45:03 highly optimistic 21:45:10 Slightly behind, I'd say at this point 21:45:14 * russellb agrees 21:45:31 per-aggregate-resource-ratio is marked implemented but there still is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33950/ in review 21:45:46 shall I reopen ? 21:45:52 yes 21:45:54 Should ivs-vif-driver be considered completed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31730/ ? 21:46:20 yes 21:46:27 got that one 21:46:36 Do you know why https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/find-host-and-evacuate-instance is marked "Blocked" ? The whiteboard wouldn't say. 21:46:56 it's blocked because it depends on query-scheduler, which isn't done yet 21:47:04 ok will document 21:47:10 maybe that's not a normal use of Blocked status 21:47:17 but that's all it is 21:47:40 no it's fine, it's just nice to document the reason on the whiteboard so that we all know what it's blocking on 21:47:48 * russellb nods 21:47:51 going to move to havana-3 as well 21:48:04 db-slave-handle is blocked on getting oslo.config 1.2.0a2 into nova... how is that going ? 21:48:48 tried to ping the author today, but he wasn't around 21:48:55 they had one approach merged, and then it had to be reverted 21:48:58 so, i don't know 21:49:04 ok, will followup 21:49:09 markmc was talking to them the other day about it, too 21:49:13 You have a number of bugs targeted to the milestone that are not assigned yet... 21:49:43 You don't have a meeting this week, but maybe review them and untarget them if nobody plans to work on them ? 21:49:45 yeah, probably need to just untarget them 21:49:51 russellb, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I6f3eb5fd2c75615d9a1cae172aed859b36b27d4c,n,z for oslo.config-1.2.0a3 21:49:52 yeah 21:49:53 You also have 4 critical bugs that are not targeted to havana-2... 21:50:01 If they were really critical I think they should all be targeted to h2. Or downgraded to "High" ? 21:50:09 ttx: will review 21:50:16 russellb: anything else you wanted to mention ? 21:50:33 don't think so 21:50:34 Any question on Nova ? 21:50:38 i'll go back over these notes and clean up 21:50:43 #topic Heat status 21:50:46 russellb: thx! 21:50:49 o/ 21:50:49 shardy: o/ 21:50:52 #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-2 21:51:02 Not too bad, but there is not much room in h3 to defer anything 21:51:05 Should be an interesting week :) 21:51:13 markmc: thanks! 21:51:24 Yeah, I think most of the deferring is done now, hopefully.. 21:51:28 You also have a large list of targeted bugs 21:51:37 with a couple unassigned 21:51:45 Yeah two highs which I'm hoping to assign at tomorrows meeting 21:51:51 ok 21:51:57 shardy: anything else you want to raise ? 21:51:59 I'd prefer not to release h2 without fixing those if possible 21:52:17 ttx: yes - I'll be on holiday/vacation for two weeks from next Monday 21:52:28 I expect to see more clearly next week, the holiday weekend is messing with my forecast spell 21:52:32 stevebaker will handle h2 release and PTO tasks in my absence 21:52:47 Questions about Heat ? 21:52:49 \o 21:52:55 more steves 21:53:02 s/PTO/PTL ;) 21:53:10 #topic Horizon status 21:53:13 \o 21:53:16 gabrielhurley: o/ 21:53:18 #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/havana-2 21:53:22 I pared things down since last week 21:53:33 Still slightly behind, I think, and your H3 is huge 21:53:34 I expect all of those to land, with a small maybe on the pagination one 21:53:41 good 21:54:02 I kicked some stuff out of H3 but I didn't want to arbitrarily drop lots of things without giving people a chance to claim them/give feedback 21:54:07 Your list of targeted bugs is huge as always... We'll have to refine it next week if they don't have assignees yet 21:54:20 ttx: you know I just roll the bug list forward every time 21:54:28 I'll do so again next week 21:54:35 gabrielhurley: the new tracking system will let you keep those in since they won't mess with the release radar 21:54:42 ah, nifty 21:54:42 (as "Low") 21:54:58 gabrielhurley: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:55:22 just a quick mention that Heat and (some) Ceilometer support will land in H2, which is awesome 21:55:34 that's really cool 21:55:39 that's it for me 21:55:48 Questions on Horizon ? 21:56:24 #topic Incubated projects 21:56:28 heyo 21:56:38 hub_cap: hey 21:56:41 hub_cap: is the trove rename complete now ? 21:56:44 yes 21:56:47 id like to talk about a h1 21:56:55 hub_cap: At this point I'd suggest we do a havana-2 rather than a late havana-1 milestone ? 21:56:59 ok 21:57:00 makes sense 21:57:07 unless you REALLY need it for some reason 21:57:13 ttx: i just want to belong 21:57:14 :P 21:57:19 you shall you shall 21:57:22 h2 is fine imo 21:57:35 so heat integration. its been stalled a bit, and ill send out a wiki article why 21:57:39 I checked up the automation and I think we are all set 21:57:51 great ttx we can burn thru it during the h2 cut 21:58:01 ill be sending out the heat stuff to the ML to get some group think 21:58:22 and im working on rpm integration (CERN has contacted me about integration) 21:58:32 other than that just working thru h2 21:58:33 hub_cap: sure, will give you a heads-up on the procedure and what's expected from you. Not so much, mind you, apart from being present to say "yeah, let's ship it" 21:58:55 cool. ill have my sailors cap ready 21:59:23 Is https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/havana-2 still representing what you expect to land in the next two weeks ? 21:59:46 with 1 change yes 22:00:02 ok, looks like you're a bit behind then :) 22:00:20 hehe yea 22:00:31 well, except if we just reroll all h1 to h2 22:00:40 oh then itll look better! 22:00:46 hub_cap: you ok with me swithcing the h1 stuff to h2 ? 22:00:48 but ill make sure the little things are in h2 22:00:50 sure ttx 22:00:56 i know there is more 22:01:02 and then remove the h1 milestone altother 22:01:07 there is no _more_ than that that may be in h2 22:01:08 ^ge 22:01:13 sure thing ttx 22:01:21 ok, no time left 22:01:28 moar next week 22:01:30 gratz 22:01:32 #endmeeting