21:02:12 #startmeeting project 21:02:13 Meeting started Tue Aug 13 21:02:12 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:02:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:02:16 The meeting name has been set to 'project' 21:02:22 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:02:33 Usual agenda, Cinder may go first since John has a conflict 21:02:38 (if he arrives) 21:02:44 0/ 21:02:46 #topic General stuff 21:02:54 Upcoming deadlines are FeatureProposalFreeze for some projects: 21:03:03 Nova and Cinder on Aug 21, Neutron on Aug 23 21:03:09 dolphm: did you settle on August 28 for Keystone ? 21:03:17 ttx: yes, haven't heard any complaints 21:03:31 dolphm: ok, will add it to the release schedule for info 21:03:35 ttx: thank you! 21:03:41 For the projects which enforce it, all feature code shall be *proposed* by FPF 21:03:42 ttx: we decided on August 23rd for Heat 21:03:55 shardy: ah. good news 21:04:29 #action ttx to update release schedule to include Heat (Aug 23) and keystone (Aug 28) 21:04:36 This should let you have an easy hard rule about rejecting random stuff that would suddenly appear one week before FeatureFreeze 21:04:49 sdague, annegentle, jeblair/mordred: news from QA/Docs/Infra programs ? 21:04:53 o/ 21:05:00 annegentle: shoot 21:05:22 We had our monthly meeting this morning, are looking at going to weekly or every other week 21:05:25 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MeetingLogs#2013-08-13 21:06:18 Want to be sure the PTLs are good with continuous publishing for some docs, I think I should ask individuals though. 21:06:21 ttx: nak 21:06:35 annegentle: that may be more successful 21:06:49 ttx: yep. That's all I've got 21:06:57 I usually go after people and point them to the thread. You can't rely on everyone reading everything 21:07:30 annegentle: we're good with continuous publishing 21:07:37 ok, let's go project-specific 21:07:48 #topic Cinder status 21:07:54 ttx: hey there 21:08:00 #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-3 21:08:17 * ttx refreshes 21:08:31 one undefined still 21:08:46 I need an update if it's still moving forward "optional iscsi support" 21:08:57 should have it set or deferred tomorrow 21:09:06 I wonder if refactor-lvm-and-iscsi-driver and vmware-vmdk-cinder-driver should not be considered "Needs code review" now 21:09:17 26% done, 13% under review, 46% in progress, 13% not started 21:09:18 yes to all of the above 21:09:39 OK, please update as soon as you get a chance 21:09:51 so you're probably not really behind 21:09:52 ttx: doing it now 21:10:17 You've got 2 "not started" still: add-export-import-volumes and db-migration-tests... Is it reasonable to keep them in the roadmap ? 21:10:21 we'll see, think there are some things that are going to get added the next few days 21:10:28 i.e. are they easy and fast ? 21:10:39 Move to Low or 'next' ? 21:10:40 I need to get ahold of the Mirantis guys, they're tough to communicate with at times 21:10:47 I'm leaning towards next 21:11:04 but I was scolded for not targetting those in the first place 21:11:16 so I'm being overly generous in giving them chances 21:11:41 you can send a mail with a deadline and move them if you don't get evidence it may make it 21:11:52 will do 21:11:57 or you can keep them "Low" priority and not care if it makes it or not 21:12:09 jgriffith: anything else on your mind ? 21:12:09 ttx: personally I really don't :) 21:12:31 just the brick effort, but I should link up with russellb outside of meeting on that 21:12:45 ok 21:12:48 Questions on Cinder ? 21:12:59 thanks everyone for letting me jump ahead this week 21:13:08 #topic Oslo status 21:13:11 hey 21:13:13 markmc: hi! 21:13:16 #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/havana-3 21:13:22 83% done, 16% under review, 0% in progress, 0% not started 21:13:27 big one is obviously https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/trusted-messaging 21:13:41 the main part of the oslo work for that has actually merged 21:13:50 but we're still waiting on the kds side 21:14:08 there's an API spec for the kds stuff under review here: https://review.openstack.org/40692 21:14:13 so we may end wit hthe feature in oslo but unusable for the lack of a KDS, right ? 21:14:19 I take it keystone folks still think it has a chance to make it 21:14:28 well, yeah 21:14:43 but then who is lined up to make use of it ? Ceilometer maybe ? 21:14:52 the code in oslo is currently just infrastructure which isn't integrated with the main rpc code 21:15:09 so, it doesn't risk anything by being there either 21:15:16 e.g. it doesn't have to be copied into projects 21:15:19 Personally I'm a bit worried to ship late code with such security implications as a KDS 21:15:28 (with my VMT hat on) 21:15:30 (Ceilometer would like to use it indeed) 21:15:52 I'd expect nova would use it if it landed in oslo-incubator and keystone 21:16:12 yeah, it's definitely very late at this stage 21:16:25 can't speak to what keystone folks feel about it at this stage 21:16:31 dolphm: ? 21:16:40 ttx: assuming the implementation lands in time, it would be disabled out of the box in keystone 21:17:02 dolphm: that doesn't prevent us from having to security-support it 21:17:03 ttx: now that the api review is up, there's a bunch of eyes suddenly on it 21:17:12 ttx: agree 21:17:34 That's the sort of thing I'd definitely prefer to postpone... 21:17:42 jd__: how badly do you need it ? 21:18:05 ttx: we already have our own signing mechanism, so we don't need it for say 21:18:27 we'd just prefer to drop our own mechanism to use the common one. 21:18:37 we've been bitten in the past with late security-sensitive stuff 21:19:04 and there's https://github.com/stackforge/barbican 21:19:31 dolphm: could you reach the various stakeholders and see how much they would like to be postponed to icehouse on this ? I'd welcome more baking time and discussion around this 21:19:47 ttx: sure 21:19:50 markmc: anything you wanted to raise about oslo? 21:19:56 dolphm, ttx, let's have a discussion on the mailing list about it 21:20:05 markmc: +1 21:20:07 dolphm, ttx, there hasn't been a discussion about it there for some months 21:20:08 ++ 21:20:13 I'll let you guys start it and chime in 21:20:23 apart from that, I'm mostly heads-down on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/oslo-messaging 21:20:28 ack 21:20:29 i.e. porting nova to oslo.messaging 21:20:38 right 21:20:42 released oslo.messaging-1.2.0a3 today, consider it pretty much feature complete 21:21:01 Questions about Oslo ? 21:21:01 I figure if the nova port isn't looking in reasonable shape by next week, punt to icehouse 21:21:25 #info oslo meeting this friday https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo 21:21:38 markmc: yes, that's another thing that's risky to touch at the end of a cycle 21:21:48 ttx, what is? 21:21:51 nova? :) 21:21:59 messaging in nova :) 21:22:04 #topic Keystone status 21:22:15 #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-3 21:22:20 0% done, 44% under review, 55% in progress, 0% not started 21:23:12 More code needs to be proposed now! 21:23:33 agree! 21:23:40 dolphm: should unified-logging-in-keystone could be considered 'Implemented' now that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39934/ is merged 21:23:40 several of those are pending a second +2 21:24:08 ttx: no, that's just a sync; there's another patch in review to consume logging from oslo 21:24:18 dolphm: ok 21:24:32 then yes. Propose and land :) 21:24:45 dolphm: anything you wanted to raise ? 21:24:58 ttx: yes... i did defer a bp today 21:25:20 there were two different quota storage efforts started during havana 21:25:27 this one has gained the most traction https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/store-quota-data 21:25:44 at this point, the second is simply a new use case on top of the above bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/domain-quota-management-and-enforcement 21:26:04 ok 21:26:07 the other key question is around the maturity of the KDS security-wise and the potential benefit of more baking / discussoin, see previous topic 21:26:18 we'll discuss that on the ml 21:26:32 ++ 21:26:34 dolphm: anything else ? 21:26:38 that is all 21:26:51 hopefully next week we'll have > 0% done :) 21:26:52 Questions anyone ? 21:27:15 #topic Ceilometer status 21:27:20 jd__: hey 21:27:21 o/ 21:27:23 #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-3 21:27:49 * ttx refreshes 21:27:57 :-) 21:28:04 15% done, 7% under review, 69% in progress, 7% not started 21:28:08 OK.. unless you have an ace up your sleeve... 21:28:14 ...I think it's time to make some dramatic changes because this is going into the wall by chasing too many things at the same time 21:28:37 I'd suggest moving more things to Low priority (or to the 'next' milestone) 21:28:50 In particular stuff not started yet like nova-cell-support 21:29:07 jd__: or maybe you have better suggestions ? or a surprise for us :) 21:29:10 agreed 21:29:18 Tip: you should never bet on the gate being extremely fluid around FeatureFreeze. 21:29:26 Land early what you can :) 21:29:28 same thing for the RPC signing, I think we know it'll be for 'next' 21:29:56 #action jd__ to use the chainsaw on the h3 roadmap and cut it 21:30:03 :-) 21:30:28 jd__: when is the ceilometer meeting ? 21:30:43 ttx: tomorrow 2100 UTC 21:30:55 will see if I can make it to push 21:31:00 jd__: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:31:04 nop 21:31:10 Questions on Ceilometer ? 21:31:37 #topic Swift status 21:31:44 notmyname: around ? 21:32:03 I have a canned update 21:32:08 ttx: although I'll try, if I'm not in the meeting tomorrow, that's the status update: 1.9.1 release 21:32:21 So 1.9.1 was released earlier today 21:32:32 mostly a security update 21:32:41 Next release is likely to be synced with the coordinated havana release 21:32:52 Questions about Swift that I may not be able to answer ? 21:33:39 #topic Glance status 21:33:46 me me me! 21:33:48 markwash: o/ 21:33:51 #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-3 21:33:58 40% done, 20% under review, 40% in progress, 0% not started 21:34:03 recent progress I see 21:34:11 some, and some bumping 21:34:30 one is about to go from review to done 21:34:56 Still no code proposed for api-v2-property-protection ? 21:35:12 not on gerrit, but I have seen some on github 21:35:15 progress is being made 21:35:42 and you don't have a FPF s oyou might jus tmake it 21:36:08 markwash: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:36:14 well. . not having an advertised feature freeze doesn't mean new proposals for h3 won't be outright rejected 21:36:22 and a new glance client went out! 21:36:32 but probably another will come soon, now with PBR 21:36:37 sure, but you can have late code proposed on that feature without appearing to play favorites :) 21:36:50 Questions on Glance ? 21:36:50 right 21:37:54 #topic Neutron status 21:37:58 markmcclain: hi! 21:38:05 hi 21:38:06 #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/havana-3 21:38:37 A few questions while I update the status... 21:38:41 What's the status of configurable-ip-allocation ? 21:39:01 39% done, 46% under review, 14% in progress, 0% not started 21:39:05 The train is still on the rails! 21:39:13 the code be in gerrit tomorrow 21:39:20 What about hyper-v-wmi-v2 ? 21:39:53 I spoken with alessandro and expected by now, I'll ping him again 21:40:06 and.. how is ipv6-feature-parity doing ? 21:40:19 it's the one I'm worried the most about 21:40:29 we've got 10 days right :) 21:41:01 10 days to propose code, by your own terms 21:41:16 then another 10 days to merge it 21:41:47 it's the 2nd 10 day period I expect to be tougher part 21:42:10 well, if that's the only FAIL in that list I'll call it a miracle nevertheless 21:42:18 markmcclain: anything you wanted to raise ? 21:42:28 nothing new from me 21:42:34 Questions on Neutron ? 21:42:48 #topic Nova status 21:42:51 o/ 21:42:52 russellb: hey 21:42:55 #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-3 21:43:00 21% done, 47% under review, 31% in progress, 0% not started 21:43:01 been updating, so refresh 21:43:06 Not too bad! 21:43:13 refreshed 20 seconds ago 21:43:17 l 21:43:19 err, k 21:43:35 yeah, been trying to aggressively update things (move to next, or change priority to Low) 21:43:45 will keep pushing on it 21:43:57 need to start landing more of this stuff under review ... 21:44:25 you pushed some of cyeoh gazillion blueprints to low/next ? 21:44:31 yes, mostly to next 21:44:39 ok 21:44:40 thing is ... we decided we're not going to finish the v3 API in havana 21:44:57 and all of those covered aspects of that, so doesn't matter if they finish in havana or not at this point 21:44:58 IMO 21:45:06 Wondering if glusterfs-native-support is actually not 'Implemented' yet (with merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39498/) 21:45:29 oh nice, that went in today 21:45:30 yep implemented 21:45:39 * russellb updates 21:45:50 russellb: anything else you wanted to mention ? 21:46:17 don't think so ... i' think i got 7-10 new blueprints trying to be added to havana-3 in the last week 21:46:18 sheesh 21:46:32 having to start swinging the hammer around :) 21:46:38 anyway, that's it, thanks! 21:46:38 you can't wait until you have that FPF sign on the door :) 21:46:40 * hub_cap ducks 21:46:48 Any question on Nova ? 21:46:50 ttx: yes 21:47:00 * markwash quacks 21:47:07 * russellb gooses 21:47:11 * hub_cap mallards 21:47:19 i think you can safely move on now, heh. 21:47:21 #topic Heat status 21:47:27 o/ 21:47:27 shardy: o/ 21:47:37 #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-3 21:47:42 48% done, 14% under review, 37% in progress, 0% not started 21:47:48 Looks on track to me 21:48:10 Yep, quite a lot of stuff landing, bumped anything not started 21:48:21 Is hot-parameters completed with the merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38921/ ? 21:48:59 oh https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41691/ 21:49:07 igore me 21:49:11 or ignore 21:49:18 Yeah, there were several parts to that one up for review IIRC 21:49:44 Anything more needed to be done with exception-formatting ? 21:50:55 It looks complete, but I'll check at our meeting tomorrow to be certain 21:51:14 How is heat-trusts doing this week ? 21:51:32 I'm working on it now, slow progress but I'm still hoping it will land in time 21:51:38 ok 21:51:45 What about native-nova-instance ? 21:52:12 Again, I know sdake is making progress on that so should land, but I'll ask for confirmation on that at tomorrows meeting 21:52:17 shardy: anything else you want to raise ? 21:52:25 Not atm, no, thanks 21:52:29 Questions about Heat ? 21:52:40 shardy: thx! 21:52:46 #topic Horizon status 21:52:52 gabrielhurley: around ? 21:53:00 yep yep 21:53:05 #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/havana-3 21:53:11 33% done, 33% under review, 25% in progress, 8% not started 21:53:18 Not too bad 21:53:30 darn, if that 8% were in progress it would've been even thirds 21:53:41 network-quotas is marked 'not started' -- I think it would make a good target for a 'Low' priority at this point (or just deferred to 'next') 21:54:03 I reached out to the assignee for that one today, I will probably bump it to "next" as soon as I hear back. 21:54:09 ack 21:54:14 the other which may slip is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improved-boot-from-volume 21:54:30 there are a couple people working on competing implementations and I'm not sure they're gonna come together in time 21:54:47 You moved realtime-spec out ? 21:54:51 The notable thing I bumped out today was the realtime stuff 21:54:52 lol 21:54:53 yes 21:54:58 haha 21:55:00 I would rather land it in I1 than H3 21:55:08 it's gonna be one of those "lots of kinks to work out" features 21:55:12 soon we'll operate like a hive 21:55:16 haha 21:55:27 gabrielhurley: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:55:31 * gabrielhurley envisions ttx as the queen of the OpenStack hive 21:55:41 uh, no 21:55:43 nothing else 21:55:44 lol 21:55:45 fat and lying at the bottom 21:55:56 Questions on Horizon ? 21:56:06 hi gabrielhurley. I have update about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improved-boot-from-volume 21:56:19 vasiliy: tell us 21:56:29 vasiliy: awesome, the horizon meeting is in 5 minutes, tell me then 21:56:34 today was publishe first patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41728/ 21:56:36 or now, if ttx has time 21:56:43 It's in-progress now, but we've already started working on testing the patch and preparation of unit-tests. 21:56:44 I have one minute 21:56:46 The main goal of patch is to reflect new functionality "clone image" in Nova. 21:56:48 awesome 21:56:53 yep 21:57:05 vasiliy: thx 21:57:09 #topic Incubated projects 21:57:14 devananda, hub_cap: howdy 21:57:18 ttx - you are welcome 21:57:22 Any question ? 21:57:23 howdy howdy 21:57:36 Any update ? 21:57:49 chugging away at heat integration starting um, yesterday :) 21:57:58 ptl is short for code at night i think 21:58:09 gabrielhurley - the blueprint was assigned to Sam, but he hasn't spare time now - therefore we desided to help him - because worked on related blueprints on Nova 21:58:23 should be in by end of month tho 21:58:49 and then we talk incubation status :) 21:58:54 other than that things r goin well. 21:59:08 hub_cap: code at night, yes 21:59:27 Anything else to mention in the last minute, anyone ? 21:59:34 <3 22:00:04 #endmeeting