21:01:13 <ttx> #startmeeting project 21:01:14 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Aug 27 21:01:13 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:15 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01:17 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'project' 21:01:25 <ttx> #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:01:28 <markmcclain> o/ 21:01:29 <ttx> #topic General stuff 21:01:37 <ttx> A few date reminders: 21:01:48 <ttx> Feature Freeze is EOD *Wednesday*, September 4 (next week) 21:02:04 <ttx> Tomorrow Keystone hits FeatureProposalFreeze 21:02:15 <ttx> Nova, Cinder, Neutron and Heat are already under FeatureProposalFreeze 21:02:26 <ttx> I also created havana-rc1 milestones so that you can start targetting bugs at it. 21:02:36 <ttx> sdague, annegentle, jeblair: news from QA/Docs/Infra programs ? 21:02:50 <annegentle> o/ 21:02:55 <annegentle> we'll meet tomorrow at 1300 UTC 21:03:14 <annegentle> #info Docs team meeting in #openstack-meeting Wed 1300 UTC, going to every other week meetings 21:03:17 <jeblair> ttx: nak 21:03:38 <annegentle> About 25 people signed up for docs boot camp Sept 9-10 21:03:50 <annegentle> Plenty of docimpact bugs for all! 21:03:50 <ttx> annegentle: anything else ? 21:03:55 <jeblair> oh, please use the recheck system to help out with flakey tests that may be uncovered by running tempest in parallel 21:04:22 <clarkb> and try to attribute the flaky tests to bugs so that we know which tests are flakiest 21:04:32 <ttx> ok, let's dive into project-specific stuff 21:04:40 <annegentle> that's it 21:04:43 <ttx> #topic Oslo status 21:04:48 <ttx> markmc: hi! 21:04:52 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/havana-3 21:05:02 <markmc> clarkb, jeblair, carefully gardening the title of recheck bugs would help stop people choosing the wrong bugs as catch-all issues 21:05:03 <markmc> hey 21:05:13 <ttx> 100% done on the >Low priority, 2 Low blueprints left 21:05:16 <markmc> so, there are 2 still open 21:05:18 <markmc> right 21:05:22 <markmc> here's the thing about those 2 21:05:36 <markmc> they're both 100% new code, so don't disturb existing code 21:05:41 <ttx> About guru-meditation-report: that's new code that wants to be common, not common code being factored out, right ? 21:05:56 <markmc> if they landed closer to the release, they're not a regression risk 21:06:06 <ttx> agreed 21:06:09 <markmc> and they won't be merged into other projects because it's post feature freeze 21:06:20 * markmc half feels like giving the folks work on these a free pass 21:06:26 <markmc> but maybe I'm getting soft 21:06:34 <ttx> you're getting old 21:06:43 <markmc> ok, just seems like a special case 21:06:44 <ttx> markmc: anything else you wanted to raise ? 21:06:49 <markmc> downside is it distracts reviewers 21:07:03 <markmc> only other thing is that the nova port to oslo.messaging is in good shape now 21:07:14 <markmc> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39929/ 21:07:20 <ttx> yes, we'll cover it during the nova section 21:07:24 <markmc> fixed a race condition, passes all tests now 21:07:25 <markmc> cool 21:07:26 <ttx> Questions about Oslo ? 21:07:28 <markmc> that's it for me, then 21:07:58 <markmc> oh, I'm away next week 21:07:59 * jgriffith yikes, sees big changes ahead for Cinder 21:08:02 <ttx> #topic Keystone status 21:08:09 <ttx> dolphm: hello! 21:08:12 <dolphm> o/ 21:08:20 <ttx> 66% done, 33% under review, 0% in progress, 0% not started 21:08:28 <ttx> You have your FeatureProposalFreeze EOD tomorrow 21:08:35 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-3 21:09:02 <ttx> endpoint-filtering looks like the only one that could miss it ? 21:09:18 <dolphm> feature proposal freeze? 21:09:35 <dolphm> actually that should be in review! 21:09:41 <ttx> dolphm: a.k.a. "all code must be proposed" 21:09:42 <dolphm> revised 21:09:49 <dolphm> i mean, it is in review 21:09:53 <ttx> ah ok 21:10:00 <dolphm> 'good progress' was an understatement 21:10:01 <ttx> so youre already good 21:10:07 <dolphm> we did push two features 21:10:15 <dolphm> store-quota-data and pagination-backend-support 21:10:27 <ttx> How is filtering-backend-support review going ? 21:11:11 <dolphm> it sounds like the details are being debated a bit, but i don't think it's at risk for slipping 21:11:28 <ttx> ok, land early, busy gate ahead 21:11:34 <ttx> You also have 13 bugs targeted to H3 21:11:43 <ttx> And two of them are not assigned to anyone. Could you have a look and see who can do them (or defer them if they are not H3-critical) ? 21:12:09 <dolphm> most are likely not h3-critical.. i just wanted to red flag them early as potential RC blockers 21:12:33 <ttx> dolphm: ok, we'll move them to rc1 next week then. Anything you wanted to raise ? 21:13:14 <ttx> Questions about Keystone anyone ? 21:13:19 <dolphm> just that there have been lots of rechecks this week pointing at keystone -- hoping to get that worked out soon! 21:13:29 <dolphm> keystoneclient* 21:13:53 <ttx> some confusion over the stable/grizzly branch too 21:13:59 <ttx> #topic Ceilometer status 21:14:05 <ttx> jd__: hey 21:14:08 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/havana-3 21:14:11 <jd__> o/ 21:14:17 <ttx> 40% done, 30% under review, 30% in progress, 0% not started 21:14:27 <ttx> Still a lot to do, with worrying lack of progress on the High-prio stuff 21:14:41 <jd__> eglynn just came back and pushed a lot of stuff actually 21:14:48 <ttx> Could you give us an update on the status of api-group-by ? 21:14:54 <jd__> so they are more under review than ever 21:15:14 <jd__> api-group-by is almost done, some part are already merged 21:15:20 <jd__> we only need a final patch to get in 21:15:42 <ttx> eglynn's stuff is alarm-service-partitioner/alarm-audit-api -- think that can make it in the coming week ? 21:15:59 <jd__> I hope so yep 21:16:03 <ttx> At this point you have a lot of "Not started" blueprints that are going to be a review distraction. I'd suggest you defer them to "next" ? 21:16:31 <jd__> well, I don't mind but I don't think that'll help 21:16:37 <jd__> people don't look at bps before reviewing 21:16:45 <jd__> they just go through Gerrit… 21:16:55 <ttx> they should :) 21:16:59 <jd__> so if code's submitted, it may be reviewed 21:17:04 <jd__> agreed, but Gerrit doesn't help with that :) 21:17:24 <ttx> It's also about communicating the havana featureset. If it's very unlikely to make it, it should be moved 21:17:44 <jd__> sure, everything's that's not started can be removed 21:17:46 <ttx> but then, FF is next week so we can do that then 21:17:55 <jd__> ack! 21:17:58 <ttx> jd__: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:18:05 <jd__> nah 21:18:25 <ttx> Questions on Ceilometer ? 21:18:34 <ttx> #topic Swift status 21:18:37 <notmyname> hi 21:18:40 <ttx> notmyname: o/ 21:18:44 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.9.3 21:19:02 <ttx> As far as timing is concerned, it would be good to have your rc1 somewhere between September 19th and October 8th 21:19:10 <notmyname> we can do that :-) 21:19:13 <ttx> (not too early, not too late) 21:19:24 <ttx> notmyname: anything you wanted to raise ? 21:19:37 * notmyname needs to get LP back up to speed 21:19:44 <hub_cap> hehe 21:19:45 <notmyname> I don't have anything to raise 21:19:55 <notmyname> EC is going well 21:20:02 <ttx> ok, thx! 21:20:07 <ttx> Questions about Swift ? 21:20:19 <hub_cap> dumb Q, whats EC? 21:20:26 <ttx> erasure codes 21:20:38 <hub_cap> cool thx! 21:20:44 <ttx> #topic Glance status 21:20:46 <markwash> o/ 21:20:51 * markwash just made it back in time! 21:20:51 <ttx> markwash: o/ 21:20:54 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/havana-3 21:21:02 <ttx> I slowed down to let you come back. 21:21:05 <markwash> haha 21:21:10 <ttx> 66% done, 33% under review, 0% in progress, 0% not started 21:21:16 <ttx> Good progress 21:21:27 <ttx> I see api-v2-property-protection is "Needs code review" now, so the code is fully proposed at this point ? 21:21:29 <markwash> yes, I was impressed, especially with your favorite, protected properties 21:21:36 <markwash> ttx yes, as I understand it 21:21:57 <markwash> ttx I still need to deep-dive on the review, but my first looks indicate that only minor changes would be needed 21:22:07 <ttx> markwash: good news 21:22:13 <ttx> Would be great to fix bug 1213241 before havana-3. Are you or bcwaldon working on it ? 21:22:15 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1213241 in glance "Pickled data in Glance database enables remote code execution" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213241 21:22:36 <markwash> not at the moment 21:22:42 <markwash> but I think we can pull something off 21:22:57 * markwash revs engines 21:23:09 <ttx> that can be done post-FF, before we publish h3 21:23:15 <ttx> markwash: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:23:23 <markwash> ttx: I have a question about post-FF 21:23:29 <markwash> can we do the version bump in that timeframe? 21:23:40 <markwash> want to expose api v2.2 for the new features we have added 21:24:01 <ttx> markwash: ideally that would happen /before/ FF 21:24:26 <ttx> but if it's a matter of days we can probably give that an exception 21:24:31 <markwash> ttx okay 21:24:33 <markwash> ttx I'll bump up the priority from random thought to sticky-note 21:24:40 <ttx> sounds good 21:25:04 <ttx> Questions on Glance ? 21:25:41 <ttx> #topic Neutron status 21:25:45 <ttx> markmcclain: hi! 21:25:49 <markmcclain> hi 21:25:49 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/havana-3 21:26:13 <ttx> I see two exceptions to your FeatureFreezeProposal 21:26:23 <ttx> is that correct ? 21:26:28 <markmcclain> yeah… I had to give myself one 21:26:38 <ttx> you mean two 21:26:41 <markmcclain> correct 21:26:47 <ttx> heh 21:26:56 <ttx> 43% done, 52% under review, 4% in progress, 0% not started 21:27:10 <ttx> Not a whole lot of progress since last week, which is a bit worrying 21:27:32 <markmcclain> a lot of patches has been seen revises in response to feedback 21:27:58 <ttx> how far are you from proposing code for ipv6-feature-parity and configurable-ip-allocation ? 21:28:52 <markmcclain> fairly close.. most is code we run internally so it is just finishing the upstreaming 21:28:57 <ttx> ok 21:29:17 <ttx> How are reviews going over the 3 other "High" stuff ? making steady progress ? 21:29:44 <markmcclain> yes.. all three are fairly close to landing 21:29:50 <ttx> Cool. You have one untriaged blueprint: neutron-fwaas-explicit-commit (with some code proposed) 21:30:01 <ttx> and finally... you also have a significant number of H3-targeted bugs :) 21:30:17 <ttx> busy week ahead 21:30:24 <ttx> markmcclain: anything you wanted to raise ? 21:30:52 <markmcclain> yeah busy week indeed… nothing new to raise 21:30:58 <ttx> Questions on Neutron ? 21:31:29 <ttx> #topic Cinder status 21:31:34 <ttx> jgriffith: hola! 21:31:34 <jgriffith> howdy 21:31:40 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/havana-3 21:31:53 <ttx> Looks like you are really under FeatureProposalFreeze, congrats :) 21:31:58 <jgriffith> :) 21:32:03 <ttx> But then that highlights the very high number of reviews you have to complete ! 21:32:09 <jgriffith> Couple attempts to sneak here and there 21:32:14 <ttx> Looking good on the >Low stuff: 21:32:17 <jgriffith> So the good news is they're all active 21:32:20 <ttx> 60% done, 40% under review, 0% in progress, 0% not started 21:32:27 <jgriffith> Slow response times though 21:32:37 <ttx> How is windows-storage-driver-extended review going ? 21:32:44 <jgriffith> I"m pretty comfortable we'll be in good shape end of week 21:32:53 <jgriffith> ttx: I had a couple nits on that this morning 21:33:04 <jgriffith> ttx: I expect that one to land today 21:33:12 <ttx> cool 21:33:15 <ttx> On another note, nobody is assigned to critical bug 1202896 yet. 21:33:16 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1202896 in nova "quota_usage data constantly out of sync" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202896 21:33:33 * jgriffith runs away 21:33:33 <ttx> would be nice to have someone on it if it really is critical 21:33:56 <hub_cap> i think jgriffith stepped out to find someone :P 21:34:00 <jgriffith> Yeah, it's going to be me I think, but while it's targetted I figure features first 21:34:10 <jgriffith> since we'll freeze on that front 21:34:15 <ttx> jgriffith: agreed 21:34:23 <jgriffith> hub_cap: nahh... ran away screaming to hide 21:34:28 <ttx> just better if it's on someone's todo list 21:34:31 * jgriffith hates quota bugs 21:34:37 <jgriffith> I'll take it right now 21:34:38 * ttx hates quotas 21:34:53 <ttx> jgriffith: anything else on your mind ? 21:34:57 <jgriffith> ttx: even better! 21:35:05 <jgriffith> Nope don't think so 21:35:12 <ttx> Questions on Cinder ? 21:35:22 <jgriffith> come on, ask 21:35:26 <jgriffith> every week and no questions 21:35:36 <jgriffith> except from ttx 21:35:39 <ttx> yeah, I should just drop that sentence 21:35:43 <jgriffith> hehe 21:35:49 <ttx> #topic Nova status 21:35:53 <ttx> Nova.. ah, Nova. 21:35:58 <ttx> russellb: hey 21:36:02 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/havana-3 21:36:02 <russellb> hey 21:36:08 <russellb> doesn't that list look fun? 21:36:16 <ttx> Same remark as for Cinder. You got the FPF locked down but still a huge review effort to go: 21:36:24 <russellb> yeah, a huge amount isn't going to make it 21:36:28 <ttx> 40% done, 60% under review, 0% in progress, 0% not started 21:36:32 <russellb> we're merging stuff, but it's been a little slow 21:36:36 <russellb> compared to the amount there is 21:36:43 <russellb> but i think it's just bandwidth reality 21:36:49 <russellb> so i'm pushing stuff out as i find good reasons to 21:36:50 <ttx> Looking at the "High" priority stuff, wanted your input on: 21:37:00 <ttx> compute-api-objects: looks like there is still a long way to go ? 21:37:06 <russellb> lots of reviews at least, yes 21:37:13 <russellb> but should be all up for review 21:37:28 * ttx tried to push some but there are prereqs that need to be completed first 21:38:14 <ttx> you moved live-migration-to-conductor out ? 21:38:19 <russellb> implemented 21:38:23 <ttx> oh, done. 21:38:25 <russellb> all patches merged now 21:38:44 <ttx> cold-migration-to-conductor looked a bit WIP to me when I last looked 21:39:09 <russellb> yes, last patch seems to have stalled 21:39:17 <russellb> good chance that one won't make it 21:39:36 <russellb> though it's not marked WIP anymore 21:39:40 <russellb> so i guess it's ready for review 21:39:46 <russellb> competing for review time with the 400 other things 21:39:55 <ttx> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39936/ is still WIP 21:40:05 <ttx> Anything else which looks a bit in danger to you ? 21:40:14 <russellb> all of it 21:40:16 <russellb> :) 21:40:20 <ttx> yay 21:40:26 <russellb> but just because of review bandwidth 21:40:36 <russellb> i suspect i'm going to have a lot of fun with everyone who gets upset 21:40:43 <russellb> i don't know what else to do 21:40:49 <ttx> looks like there will be some fun and competition around FF exceptions next week 21:40:54 <russellb> yeah 21:41:04 <ttx> On the bugs side, would be great to have someone working on bug 1216720, which is a regression apparently 21:41:06 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1216720 in nova "Security groups with source groups no longer work" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1216720 21:41:19 <russellb> oh, hm ... 21:41:27 <ttx> Also bug 1184470 and bug 1134650 are targeted to H3 but have nobody assigned to them 21:41:29 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1184470 in nova "baremetal driver needs a state between "building" and "deploying"" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184470 21:41:32 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1134650 in nova "instance_type extra_specs should be in system_metadata" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1134650 21:41:39 <russellb> ah, regression from the security fix 21:41:43 <russellb> need to let vishy know about it 21:41:46 <ttx> russellb: That's all I had. Anything else you wanted to mention ? 21:42:05 <russellb> don't think so ... just been thinking about how we can do better next cycle 21:42:39 <ttx> Any question on Nova ? 21:43:06 <ttx> #topic Heat status 21:43:10 <ttx> shardy: o/ 21:43:12 <shardy> o/ 21:43:14 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/havana-3 21:43:37 <ttx> Looks like you have one exception to your FPF, which I think is ok... 21:43:44 <ttx> ...given that you're in good shape otherwise: 21:43:47 <shardy> Looking OK I think, apart from heat-trusts which is up as a WIP review 21:43:56 <ttx> 66% done, 29% under review, 3% in progress, 0% not started 21:44:08 <shardy> will be ready for review tomorrow when I've finished the tests 21:44:14 <hub_cap> shardy: a man with my own heart 21:44:27 <ttx> What about multiple-engines ? 21:44:31 <hub_cap> *after 21:44:46 <shardy> ttx: that is Ready for review, just pinged the assignee a minute ago 21:44:55 <ttx> ok 21:44:58 <ttx> Note: you also have a lot of bugs targeted to H3 21:44:59 <shardy> there was a mistake with the commit message tag which is getting fixed 21:45:05 <ttx> including 6 without an assignee yet 21:45:31 <shardy> ttx: Yeah, I'm looking for assignees and we may well push some of those which aren't high priority out of h3 21:46:00 <ttx> shardy: right. target them to havana-rc1 instead 21:46:07 <shardy> ttx: sure, will do 21:46:08 <ttx> shardy: anything else you want to raise ? 21:46:16 <shardy> not atm, thanks! 21:46:21 <ttx> Questions about Heat ? 21:46:46 <ttx> #topic Horizon status 21:46:49 <gabrielhurley> \o 21:46:51 <ttx> gabrielhurley: o/ 21:46:55 <ttx> #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/havana-3 21:46:57 <gabrielhurley> I kicked a couple last BPs this morning and pared down the bug list. 21:47:10 * ttx refreshes 21:47:12 <gabrielhurley> a lot of those "need cod reviews" have a +2 already, so they're getting close 21:47:16 <ttx> 52% done, 47% under review, 0% in progress, 0% not started 21:47:18 <gabrielhurley> s/cod/code 21:47:34 <gabrielhurley> I don't anticipate needing any FFEs this time around 21:47:40 <ttx> How are "ceilometer" and "rbac" reviews going ? Sound like two pretty important features 21:48:13 <gabrielhurley> RBAC is pretty much where it's gonna be for the H release, which is to say it's a great start and we'll really build it out to every service in I 21:48:37 <gabrielhurley> Ceilometer has undergone a very long process, but we've got it to a place where there's a usable integration even if it's not everything the team would like 21:48:51 <gabrielhurley> it has a long string of dependent reviews which are trying to get merged currently 21:49:00 <ttx> ok, good 21:49:04 <gabrielhurley> most of them are in the gate queue currently, the last one or two are in final review 21:49:19 <ttx> gabrielhurley: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:49:27 <gabrielhurley> just review review review 21:49:31 <gabrielhurley> that's about it 21:49:33 <ttx> no kidding :) 21:49:36 <gabrielhurley> oh 21:49:39 <gabrielhurley> one thing actually 21:50:19 <gabrielhurley> due to Horizon having been the guinea pig on Transifex, we are slightly out of sync with the other projects in terms of source language, so we're gonna do a little restart and re-upload which hopefully won't lose translation data, but it's worth being aware of. 21:50:41 <ttx> #info due to Horizon having been the guinea pig on Transifex, we are slightly out of sync with the other projects in terms of source language, so we're gonna do a little restart and re-upload which hopefully won't lose translation data, but it's worth being aware of. 21:50:50 <ttx> Questions on Horizon ? 21:50:53 <hub_cap> gabrielhurley: what do u think the likelihood of trove support BP being reviewed/potentially merged is? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42228/ 21:50:54 <gabrielhurley> that'll happen before string freeze to give everyone time for any updates/fixes 21:51:03 <gabrielhurley> hub_cap: likely 21:51:05 <hub_cap> (had that question loaded lol) 21:51:15 <hub_cap> gabrielhurley: cool. who should we ping to get it reviewed? 21:51:22 <ttx> hub_cap: this is how I do it too 21:51:23 <gabrielhurley> stick around for the horizon meeting in 10 minutes 21:51:30 <hub_cap> gabrielhurley: roger 21:51:43 <ttx> which brings us to... 21:51:44 <ttx> #topic Incubated projects 21:51:57 <hub_cap> woo! 21:52:03 <ttx> NobodyCam, hub_cap: hello! 21:52:09 <NobodyCam> o/ 21:52:09 <hub_cap> my integration status is in jeopardy! 21:52:22 <NobodyCam> Again Nothing super exciting to report. We are slowly making progress forward! 21:52:23 <hub_cap> what is "i need trust support" for 500 alec 21:52:30 <gabrielhurley> lol 21:52:30 <hub_cap> *alex 21:52:57 <hub_cap> but srsly, can we discuss what happens if trusts dont make it into H 21:53:07 <hub_cap> and my heat support only works with devstack :) 21:53:54 <ttx> hub_cap: personally I would grant it a FFe if it needs a few more days. Worst case scenario we'd blame Heat rather than Trove for missing the target 21:54:21 <hub_cap> i think a FFE is in my mind already 21:54:23 <shardy> ttx: well to be fair, the first I heard of Trove's hard-requirement for trusts was today.. 21:54:45 <hub_cap> shardy: to be fair, /me was a dummy and assumed heat worked w/ tokens 21:55:04 <hub_cap> so that is really my fault 21:55:20 <ttx> shardy: that's true, but otoh this was a "high" prio blueprint so it's not completely unreasonable to assume that it would land :P 21:55:24 <hub_cap> shardy: is there a FFE for trusts? 21:55:46 <ttx> hub_cap: It may not need one 21:55:49 <shardy> hub_cap: The WIP patch was posted before the FFE 21:55:51 <hub_cap> or, is there another way to get heat to work w/o a password for creates? 21:55:59 <shardy> or FPF rather 21:56:05 <hub_cap> oh makes sense 21:56:10 * hub_cap is still new to these acronyms 21:56:36 <ttx> FFE= Feature freeze exception, i.e. if you want to land that feature post feature-freeze 21:57:02 <hub_cap> i can also post my review as WIP quickly. its got a good bit of work done 21:57:02 <ttx> #topic Open discussion 21:57:09 <shardy> hub_cap: The only thing which won't work is autoscaling, or at least that should be the case 21:57:27 <shardy> hub_cap: from what zaneb says earlier, there's some authtoken middleware bug we're being bitten by too 21:57:27 <ttx> lifeless: wanted to throw a quick status update for tripleO ? 21:57:28 <hub_cap> shardy: we dont use autoscaling (yet!) 21:57:44 <shardy> hub_cap: let's continue in #heat ;) 21:57:45 <lifeless> ttx: hey sure 21:57:53 <zaneb> shardy: the impression I got was that it was intentional 21:58:00 <hub_cap> shardy: im travelling tomorrow / getting ready tonight, so lets talk thr 21:58:02 <lifeless> we're in good shape - sprint is in two.5 weeks time 21:58:06 <ttx> hub_cap: don't lose sleep over that. It's close enough I think 21:58:10 <zaneb> because most of heat doesn't really work with token-only today 21:58:27 <lifeless> we'll be ensuring that there is a release of all the client tools so that folk which want frozen code can do that 21:58:45 <hub_cap> ill chat you guys up in 48hr zaneb shardy 21:58:45 <shardy> zaneb: I'd like stevebaker's opinion on that, AIUI he sent several patches designed to ensure it did.. 21:58:46 <lifeless> and hopefully we'll have a minimal deploy-full-cloud-story in the gate either before I opens or just after 21:58:49 <lifeless> done 21:58:57 <shardy> hub_cap: OK 21:59:04 <ttx> lifeless: thx 21:59:05 <hub_cap> <3 21:59:25 <stevebaker> hi 21:59:41 <ttx> famous last words, anyone ? 21:59:41 <shardy> stevebaker: we'll continue in #heat ;) 21:59:45 <zaneb> shardy, stevebaker: maybe it's just a case of swapping in different middleware? 21:59:49 <hub_cap> hugs 21:59:51 <ttx> #endmeeting