21:00:58 #startmeeting project 21:00:59 Meeting started Tue Oct 15 21:00:58 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:01:03 The meeting name has been set to 'project' 21:01:16 Our usual agenda for te last Havana meeting 21:01:18 ttx: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. 21:01:20 aw 21:01:24 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting 21:01:37 #topic General stuff 21:01:46 #info Less than 2 days before release, we have RCs everywhere 21:01:55 #info At this point only regressions / critical upgrade issues should trigger respins 21:02:09 and we'd seriously limit the number of fixes to reduce chances of regression 21:02:24 Please note that if we do any respin, that would be tomorrow. 21:02:36 On Thursday (afternoon for Europe, morning for US) we shall publish the standing RCs and cut the stable/havana branches 21:02:48 Any question on that ? 21:03:07 sdague, annegentle, jeblair: anything from QA/Docs/Infra programs ? 21:03:16 sure 21:03:45 ttx: nothing major here 21:03:47 We're making progress on the install guide on all fronts. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HavanaDocTesting is the test matrix, patching like mad. 21:04:15 ttx: nak, thanks 21:04:20 A bit of a debate on the team on whether to release Thursday if the install is not complete 21:04:25 release docs that is 21:04:25 annegentle: no kidding 21:04:34 right 21:04:40 we'll keep triaging every 12 hours 21:04:51 we REALLY really want to make the date 21:05:36 annegentle: anything else ? Something we could do to help ? 21:06:02 at this point most of us are just on-call waiting for some nasty regression to show up 21:06:08 people have been responding to my call for help on the mailing list and a neutron setup came out of that as well, so I'm pleased with the response 21:06:40 annegentle: if you need one more day I guess that would still count as "Thursday", like in Hawaii 21:06:46 Test the install guide for your distro at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk, click the doc bug link (it's a cute red bug on each page) to report issues 21:06:54 ttx: nice. Might do that aloha! 21:07:01 mahalo 21:07:11 #help Test the install guide for your distro at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk, click the doc bug link (it's a cute red bug on each page) to report issues. 21:07:28 markmc/dhellmann: around ? 21:07:53 In other news, O'Reilly is starting a custom edit of the Operations Guide, thanks to the Foundation for funding. 21:08:01 that's all I've got (and it's enough!) 21:08:04 ok, let's skip oslo, I don't think there was anything from them anyway 21:08:10 #topic Keystone status 21:08:15 dolphm: hey 21:08:15 o/ 21:08:19 #info Keystone RC2 is out 21:08:24 Looking at the havana-rc-potential list: 21:08:28 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=havana-rc-potential 21:08:42 3 bugs -- nothing really critical afaict, could be fixed in stable/havana alright ? 21:08:52 yes 21:09:05 might make sense to document them as known issues though 21:09:17 at least the LDAP one 21:09:32 i was about to say that for the first two issues 21:09:45 The trusts one will mean trusts support in Heat is broken 21:09:46 as many as you want :) 21:10:37 dolphm: might be nice to do a RC3 over that one, so that trusts work out of the box ? 21:10:39 shardy: hmm, i didn't expect that kind of impact 21:10:53 but then it's broken anyway until the patch for 1231483 gets merged into keystoneclient 21:11:00 this issues applies to grizzly as well 21:11:20 shardy: but keystoneclient can be fixed out of band 21:11:46 ttx: yep, I'm hoping it will be, soon ;) 21:12:14 dolphm: that sounds small enough for a RC3 for me, if you can get it to master today 21:12:31 working on it! 21:12:53 dolphm: ok, let's discuss that post-meeting based on status 21:13:04 dolphm: I'll remove the other two bugs from list 21:13:08 sounds good 21:13:18 and let you document them in release notes 21:13:28 shardy: thx for the cross-project vision 21:13:38 dolphm: nothing else ? 21:13:51 not from me 21:14:04 #topic Ceilometer status 21:14:37 jd__: bonsoir 21:14:41 #info Ceilometer RC2 is out 21:14:41 bonsoir ! 21:14:45 Let's see your havana-rc-potential list: 21:14:49 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bugs?field.tag=havana-rc-potential 21:15:02 The one bug you have there is not worth a respin, could be included in rc3 if we did one 21:15:13 jd__: Any other blocker I should know about ? 21:15:32 nop 21:15:39 so far so good 21:15:55 Other news / questions about Ceilometer ? 21:16:31 #topic Swift status 21:16:35 notmyname: o/ 21:16:39 #link Swift RC1 is out 21:16:42 err 21:16:46 i 21:16:49 hi 21:16:50 #info Swift RC1 is out 21:17:05 Nothing on your havana-rc-potential list 21:17:14 Does that mean there is no known need for a last-minute respin at this point ? 21:17:18 so far, everything looks good 21:17:22 great! 21:17:27 I like that. 21:17:57 notmyname: anything you wanted to mention ? 21:17:57 many of us are in Austin right now at a 3 day hackathon. churning through reviews and features. 21:18:26 nothing to mention for the havana release 21:18:31 release notes are up 21:18:37 notmyname: I saw that. thx 21:18:57 #topic Glance status 21:19:02 markwash: o/ 21:19:04 o/ 21:19:07 #info Glance RC2 is out 21:19:19 Nothing on your havana-rc-potential list 21:19:22 All good so far ? 21:19:28 So far 21:19:46 Other news / questions about Glance ? 21:19:56 Not from me 21:20:07 markwash: great, thx 21:20:22 #topic Neutron status 21:20:29 markmcclain: hola 21:20:36 hi 21:20:36 #info Neutron RC2 is out 21:20:41 Looking at the havana-rc-potential list: 21:20:45 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=havana-rc-potential 21:21:03 So... bug 1236439 21:21:05 Launchpad bug 1236439 in neutron "switch to use hostnames like nova breaks upgrades of l3-agent" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1236439 21:21:31 Do you want to document it as a known upgrade issue at this point ? 21:21:31 changing the value one way or another breaks somethign 21:21:49 right now that is our current thinking 21:22:23 Is there any way to let the user choose the lesser evil ? Like having people upgrading keep grizzly behavior 21:22:41 or does it have to be manual ? 21:23:00 we're thinking on publishing a script to reschedule the agents 21:23:09 rescheduling fixes the issue 21:23:46 markmcclain: publishing.. in the release notes, right ? 21:23:56 most likely 21:24:18 markmcclain: ok 21:24:33 at least distros could pick up the script in their upgrade scripts 21:25:16 markmcclain: please push it to the bug as soon as you have it 21:25:21 will do 21:25:22 then copy it to release notes 21:25:42 and while you're at it fill in other chapters of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Havana for Neutron 21:25:49 or delegate to someone who will, before end of day, tomorrow :) 21:25:56 will do 21:26:12 markmcclain: any other kitten killer / showstopper ? 21:26:29 apart from the ones I know about ? 21:26:33 no 21:26:46 ok, so no RC3 at this point 21:26:53 Other news / questions about Neutron ? 21:27:05 I'm hoping no RC3.. nothing else from me 21:27:17 markmcclain: thx! 21:27:29 #topic Cinder status 21:27:33 jgriffith: hi! 21:28:21 hmm, no jgriffith yet? 21:28:42 #undo 21:28:43 Removing item from minutes: 21:28:49 #topic Nova status 21:28:57 russellb: around? 21:29:49 hi 21:29:50 sorry! 21:29:51 #info Nova RC2 is out 21:29:58 Looking at your havana-rc-potential list: 21:30:03 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=havana-rc-potential 21:30:10 added another to the list today 21:30:20 There was some concern around bug 1239484 but analysis revealed a user corner case afaict 21:30:21 Launchpad bug 1239484 in nova "failed nova db migration upgrading from grizzly to havana" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239484 21:30:22 but unless someone tells me otherwise, we can defer it to stable/havana 21:30:41 bug 1230925 is just somethign we would pack in a RC3 if any 21:30:44 Launchpad bug 1230925 in nova "Require new python-cinderclient for Havana" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1230925 21:30:49 yep 21:30:52 leaves us with bug 1221664 21:30:53 Launchpad bug 1221664 in nova "xenapi: configdrive does not include network details" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221664 21:31:20 not clear from the bug or commit message if it's regression 21:31:22 sounds like it's not 21:31:26 russellb: yes, that would probably be a stable/havana backport 21:31:29 i can try to talk to john tomorrow morning, but he marked it as medium 21:31:38 unless it's a true regression 21:32:16 right, so no RC3 at this point 21:32:24 yep! 21:32:46 russellb: anything else on your mind ? 21:32:55 plenty, but nothing we need to discuss now 21:33:11 russellb: how is summit scheduling going for nova so far ? 21:33:19 just found a nova cells delete bug.. not sure if that'll be worthy of an rc3 21:33:22 :) 21:33:37 comstud: nobody uses cells, so, no 21:33:41 right! 21:33:44 ttx: well ... set a deadline for proposals on thursday 21:33:46 comstud: is that a regression compared to grizzly cells ? 21:33:50 yes 21:33:56 i've recruited a few people to help with scheduling, so we'll start soon 21:34:03 comstud: have a bug filed? 21:34:11 not yet.. *just* found it 21:34:17 ah 21:34:20 like during this meeting 21:34:21 :) 21:34:26 comstud: if only we had that cells job running :-p 21:34:34 comstud: sounds like a documentable issue and a nice stable/havana fix :P 21:34:35 this is hard to test 21:34:46 whoi deletes cells anyway 21:34:47 i think we're deleting from api cell but not child cell 21:34:55 so according to API, everything appears oka 21:35:22 shall we discuss more in #openstack-nova ? 21:35:29 comstud: I'll let you narrow it down and talk to you after meeting 21:35:32 yah 21:35:34 in #openstack-nova 21:35:44 Other news / questions about Nova ? 21:36:04 comstud: also, file a bug when you can 21:36:27 #topic Heat status 21:36:33 o/ 21:36:35 shardy: o/ 21:36:38 #info Heat RC2 is out 21:36:50 Nothing on your rc-potential list 21:36:52 Nothing RC3-worthy so far 21:37:07 so all looking good atm :) 21:37:12 about that keystone bug, how did that fly under the radar so far ? 21:37:25 (if it breaks Heat trusts) 21:37:52 ttx: Heat trusts landed late, and I've been working around several keystone and keystoneclient issues 21:38:15 ttx: It wasn't an immediately obvious issue, and the keystone tests didn't catch it 21:38:20 shardy: are you positive heat trusts will work with python-keystoneclient fix and that fix in ? 21:38:32 or are we just waitig for the next hurdle 21:38:54 (trying to gauge the need for a RC3 fix vs. a stable/havana one) 21:39:01 ttx: My testing indicates it will, but unfortunately trusts are an immature feature, so we're finding all the issues 21:39:24 shardy: at least it will work in some capacity, right 21:39:45 ttx: without both keystone and keystoneclient fixes it won't work 21:39:48 that == 'True' looks so wrong to me I kinda want it to go away 21:40:06 ++ 21:40:28 but users can still use the default user/pass instead of trusts, so impact is not that huge if we release with it broken 21:40:37 just disappointing that's all 21:40:55 it's been a long slog getting to this point 21:41:11 shardy: will triplecheck the regression risk is null with dolphm but we can RC3 it 21:41:19 if it gets into master soon enough 21:41:27 gating into master now 21:41:33 shardy: Other news / questions about Heat ? 21:41:39 ttx: Ok, sure, thanks 21:41:46 ttx, not atm, thanks! 21:41:58 #topic Horizon status 21:42:06 gabrielhurley: o/ 21:42:10 #info Horizon RC2 is out 21:42:12 \o 21:42:30 Nothing on your rc-potential list 21:42:55 gabrielhurley: anything I should know about ? 21:43:15 Nothing I'm aware of. RC2 knocked out the last of everything and nothing's come up. 21:43:18 gabrielhurley: you still need to copy a few highlights of your changelog to the release notes at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Havana 21:43:28 yeah, I'll do that. 21:43:38 It's such a pain converting reST/HTML into wiki syntax 21:43:56 gabrielhurley: yes, i'm a bit disappointed by the change-password workaround but it's probably the best call given how late we discovered that gap 21:44:19 yep. nothing that can really be done for now. Maybe as a stable backport in the future 21:44:50 sounds a bit overreaching for a stable backport, but that's a discussion for another day 21:44:57 Other news / questions about Horizon ? 21:45:32 #topic Incubated projects 21:45:39 hub_cap: no need for a Trove RC3 ? 21:46:20 I'll handle Trove 2013.2 release when I'm done with the rest of the projects, probably Thursday still 21:46:36 jgriffith: around now ? 21:47:36 #topic Cinder status 21:47:46 nope ttx (Sry) 21:47:46 will give a quick status with the info in my possession 21:48:00 #info Cinder RC2 is out 21:48:04 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bugs?field.tag=havana-rc-potential 21:48:20 We have bug 1233861 very likely to trigger a RC3 21:48:22 Launchpad bug 1233861 in cinder "Mysql foreign key failure during db migration from 9 to 10" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233861 21:48:30 since it affects upgrades 21:48:52 that said, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51917/ is not in master yet 21:49:30 #topic Open discussion 21:49:36 Anything else, anyone ? 21:50:20 well then 21:50:21 #endmeeting