14:04:24 <seanhandley> #startmeeting publiccloud-wg 14:04:24 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Sep 27 14:04:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is seanhandley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:04:25 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:04:28 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' 14:04:31 <seanhandley> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg 14:04:36 <seanhandley> Names on the Etherpad please ^^^^ 14:05:45 <seanhandley> #topic Recap meetup meeting in London 14:05:53 <seanhandley> Soooo, OSDUK 14:06:02 <seanhandley> Great session on the Passport Program 14:06:18 <seanhandley> We had some very valuable feedback from the Foundation and other attendees 14:06:30 <zhipeng> gr8t! 14:06:31 <seanhandley> zhipeng: You should definitely read the Etherpad :) 14:06:34 <seanhandley> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEETUPS-2017-publiccloud-wg 14:06:47 <zhipeng> let me click through that 14:06:51 <tobberydberg> (feel free to edit the agenda seanhandley if you like...just did a quick one earlier...) 14:07:36 <seanhandley> It's fine as it is tobberydberg :) 14:07:46 <seanhandley> Since it seems to be just the chairs at the meeting today 14:08:00 <seanhandley> I think keeping Howard in the loop should be the main goal today 14:08:13 <seanhandley> I don't have anything else in mind for the agenda 14:08:27 <tobberydberg> ++ 14:08:38 <seanhandley> Except perhaps to set myself an action point to right up an initial draft spec for a technical solution for v1 14:09:03 <seanhandley> #action seanhandley To write up initial draft spec for Passport Program v1 technical workflow 14:09:16 <pilgrimstack> o/ 14:09:40 <seanhandley> hey pilgrimstack o/ 14:09:42 <tobberydberg> hi pilgrimstack 14:09:44 <seanhandley> thanks for joining 14:09:49 <zhipeng> hey pilgrimstack 14:10:00 <seanhandley> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg <-- sign on the Etherpad please 14:10:24 <tobberydberg> Nice to get a face behind the name yesterday pilgrimstack ... even if it wasn't IRL 14:11:55 <seanhandley> Does anyone have questions about the technical discussion we had yesterday about the Passport Program? 14:12:05 <pilgrimstack> yep, for me too, I had mainly your voices but thanks again 14:12:50 <tobberydberg> ouch, sorry for that ;-) 14:13:45 <tobberydberg> There were some good notes written down, and I think we have a good plan moving forward 14:14:00 <tobberydberg> broken down into steps 14:14:16 <tobberydberg> if it is unclear - step 0 is to Sydney 14:14:26 <tobberydberg> more of at marketing kind of thing 14:14:34 <zhipeng> QR code is a bold idea 14:14:44 <zhipeng> that would be very interesting 14:14:54 <tobberydberg> we will have to create a landing page at o.o 14:15:26 <tobberydberg> have some thoughts about that, filtering possibilities for regions, projects etc etc 14:15:58 <tobberydberg> well, yes...we will see what will happen there...well worth giving that a thought 14:16:18 <seanhandley> I like the QR code idea - means we can have more secure URLs if we do print out the passports in physical form 14:16:28 <zhipeng> ++ 14:16:59 <seanhandley> tobberydberg: We'll discuss the landing page tomorrow on our meeting with the foundation 14:16:59 <zhipeng> and looking down, GDPR would be another topic worth discussing at Copenhagen @tobberydberg 14:17:09 <seanhandley> will you be attending that zhipeng tobberydberg ? 14:17:10 <tobberydberg> but, that leads in to the bigger discussion about that whole process...later matter though... 14:17:16 <zhipeng> I will 14:17:20 <seanhandley> 0600 UTC I think 14:17:26 <tobberydberg> absolutley 14:17:47 <tobberydberg> I hope to yes...haven't really figured out the time yet... 14:17:49 <seanhandley> Awesome. I may attend - Oscar is unwell so I'm anticipating a long night tonight 14:17:55 <seanhandley> Might be sleeping 14:18:10 <tobberydberg> oh, sorry to hear that 14:18:18 <seanhandley> just a cold :) 14:18:30 <zhipeng> take care man 14:18:33 <tobberydberg> Think flanders sent out another invitation as well...will have to look into that... 14:19:04 <seanhandley> I guess we should have some say on the contents/layout of the passport page on o.o 14:19:14 <seanhandley> but let the foundation make it pretty :) 14:19:24 <tobberydberg> GDPR, locking out customers depending on different kind of things will probably be worth discussing in the "judgement process" as well 14:19:32 <seanhandley> ah yes 14:19:36 <tobberydberg> absolutely 14:19:50 <seanhandley> clouds that exclude some regions/users/companies is a tricky one 14:20:12 <tobberydberg> If someone just point us in the write direction I'm sure we can do some good featured there as well 14:20:32 <tobberydberg> yes...it will be a discussion point for sure 14:21:29 <tobberydberg> Other questions? 14:22:01 <seanhandley> Ok, let's move on 14:22:04 <seanhandley> #topic Forum sessions - deadline 29th Sept 14:22:21 <seanhandley> Have you got something to say on this tobberydberg ? 14:22:41 <tobberydberg> Flanders have suggested that we should split passport session into 3 2 or 3 sessions... 14:22:50 <tobberydberg> *2 or 3 14:23:15 <seanhandley> ok 14:23:23 <seanhandley> what would the titles be? 14:23:32 <tobberydberg> as well as one more for the plan of the work ahead 14:23:44 <tobberydberg> one tech, one marketing... 14:23:57 <tobberydberg> and maybe one general improvement 14:23:59 <zhipeng> ah that might be a good suggestion 14:24:36 <tobberydberg> we have 3 days...I have another presentation, we have one BoF and one WG slot as well 14:25:11 <tobberydberg> Can we gather enough people to all session? 14:25:27 <tobberydberg> I'm not against it, just thinking of all angels... 14:25:48 <seanhandley> Yeah, I don't think we should overdo it 14:26:04 <seanhandley> and I won't be attending to help 14:26:06 <zhipeng> yep 14:26:13 <seanhandley> Neither will Nick, in all likelihood 14:26:44 <seanhandley> I'd just start with one forum session tbh 14:26:51 <seanhandley> given that we have a WG slot also 14:27:01 <seanhandley> and make it technical 14:27:09 <seanhandley> the WG slot can be less technical 14:27:24 <seanhandley> Thoughts? 14:27:42 <zhipeng> agree 14:27:50 <tobberydberg> I guess those 2 session will not attract "others"...thats probably the reason for the suggestion 14:27:57 <zhipeng> i heard the volume at Sydney will be lower than past summit 14:28:07 <zhipeng> due to long flight hours from EU or US 14:28:15 <tobberydberg> oh, ok...less than Barcelona? 14:28:32 <tobberydberg> lot of people from asia though I guess 14:28:47 <tobberydberg> long flight? I only have 24h... 14:28:47 <zhipeng> i guess :P not sure, just rumors 14:28:56 <seanhandley> I can live with that tobberydberg tbh. This needs to be sustainable and we shouldn't spread ourselves too thin. You never know what conversations etc may bring in others at the summit. And remember we'll have a Keynote mention about the Passport Program too. 14:28:58 <zhipeng> haha 24h is long man 14:29:04 <tobberydberg> mmm 14:29:19 <zhipeng> agree one forum plus one WG 14:29:29 <zhipeng> we could focus tech issue on the forum 14:31:51 <tobberydberg> ok 14:32:14 <seanhandley> cool :) 14:32:20 <seanhandley> Are you ok to submit that by Friday tobberydberg ? 14:33:18 <tobberydberg> after yesterdays discussions I think that we will need the upcoming cycle to see how the program works, before we can take to many decisions on moving forward... 14:33:22 <tobberydberg> yes, absolutly 14:33:32 <seanhandley> Awesome :) 14:33:45 <seanhandley> #action tobberydberg to submit 1 x technical forum session 14:34:11 <tobberydberg> so, do you think that we should have a third about the goals for next release, or should that be at the BoF or WG space? 14:34:30 <seanhandley> Yeah, do that in the WG space I think 14:34:42 <seanhandley> a higher level look at what we want to do long term 14:34:43 <tobberydberg> If you would like to edit something int the draft of it, please do at the ether... 14:34:53 <seanhandley> Ok, I will when I can 14:35:17 <seanhandley> Shall we move to the next item or is there more to figure out for Sydney ? 14:35:22 <tobberydberg> yea, or anyone else as well for that matter 14:36:06 <tobberydberg> I actually think that a official session for PCWG goals isn't bad...publicly announced via the program etc 14:36:10 <tobberydberg> thoughts? 14:36:23 <tobberydberg> Or will that be to much? 14:36:42 <seanhandley> I won't be there so I don't want to say it's ok :) 14:36:49 <seanhandley> if you and Howard want to, then do it 14:36:55 <zhipeng> i think it is doable 14:36:59 <tobberydberg> Please as well signup at the etherpad if you are willing to help out chairing the sessions 14:37:29 <tobberydberg> don't mind the work seanhandley ... you opinion? =) 14:37:38 <seanhandley> I'm happy if you're happy tobberydberg 14:37:43 <tobberydberg> hahaha 14:37:51 <seanhandley> as long as you don't mind having so many sessions to run! 14:37:56 <tobberydberg> due to the WG space thing zhipeng 14:37:57 <tobberydberg> ? 14:38:17 <zhipeng> huh ? 14:38:32 <tobberydberg> why do you think it is a double? 14:38:39 <zhipeng> o haha 14:38:46 <zhipeng> doable 14:38:55 <seanhandley> do-able 14:38:56 <zhipeng> can be done 14:38:59 <seanhandley> aka possible 14:39:04 <seanhandley> can-do 14:39:09 <tobberydberg> Even though sessions are interesting...these discussions are great... 14:39:24 <tobberydberg> hahaha 14:39:30 <seanhandley> :D 14:39:38 <tobberydberg> note to self...learn to read... 14:39:40 <zhipeng> everything lost in translation lol 14:39:43 <seanhandley> So you're submitting two sessions tobberydberg ? 14:40:03 <seanhandley> (forum sessions) 14:40:34 <tobberydberg> 2 or 3 then...the two we have there, and I look into the last one...need to figure out what BoF really is about... 14:40:48 <seanhandley> ok, fine :) 14:40:56 <seanhandley> I need to leave in 5 mins or so 14:41:04 <tobberydberg> could be that is a "double" to that... 14:41:05 <zhipeng> BoF is like Forum without the host 14:41:13 <seanhandley> Do we need to discuss anything related to the SIG transformation? 14:41:20 <tobberydberg> so, a general discussion about anything? 14:41:28 <tobberydberg> regarding the group then I guess 14:41:32 <seanhandley> oic - I always wondered what made BoF different 14:41:33 <zhipeng> about a set topic for sure 14:41:43 <zhipeng> Birth of a feather 14:41:48 <tobberydberg> ok, so could be about PCWG goals? 14:41:51 <zhipeng> anyways on SIG 14:41:59 <zhipeng> as I wrote on the etherpad 14:42:01 <tobberydberg> yes, know the name...not the purpose of it =) 14:42:06 <zhipeng> I've pinged Melvin 14:42:13 <tobberydberg> good 14:42:25 <tobberydberg> I sent them an email a week ago or so 14:42:27 <zhipeng> so he should be able to give an answer in a day or two 14:42:36 <zhipeng> if not I'm gonna ping him to death 14:42:40 <seanhandley> heheh 14:42:43 <zhipeng> \m/ 14:42:56 <seanhandley> Good tactic 14:42:59 <seanhandley> DeathPing 14:43:06 <zhipeng> pingtroll 14:43:23 <tobberydberg> you new nick! 14:43:28 <zhipeng> lol 14:43:40 <seanhandley> heh :D 14:43:48 <tobberydberg> ok, then we leave it at that for now! 14:43:51 <seanhandley> Cool - so we can follow up on that when Melvin responds 14:43:54 <seanhandley> Great! 14:43:57 <zhipeng> yep 14:44:04 <tobberydberg> I'll post 2 then of BoF can be used for that! 14:44:06 <pilgrimstack> ok ;) 14:44:16 <zhipeng> oh another action item could be put down for me 14:44:31 <zhipeng> I need to contact Tom to get the meetup series officially 14:44:34 <zhipeng> recognized 14:44:39 <seanhandley> #action zhipeng DeathPing Melvin for a response on the SIG transformation process 14:44:57 <zhipeng> will do that tmr since I remember he's living in Taiwan 14:45:02 <seanhandley> #action zhipeng Contact Tom to get the meetup series officially recognised 14:45:03 <zhipeng> oh man not the log 14:45:12 <zhipeng> lol 14:47:06 <seanhandley> ok - any other business ? 14:47:11 <seanhandley> I need to shoot off anyhow 14:47:25 <seanhandley> so maybe chat more in #openstack-publiccloud if necessary :) 14:47:39 <zhipeng> yes we can :) 14:47:42 <tobberydberg> you are free to leave seanhandley =) 14:47:52 <seanhandley> I have to end the meeting then I guess, cause I started it 14:47:58 <tobberydberg> I dont think I have something else today... 14:48:02 <seanhandley> #endmeeting