14:01:40 <tobberydberg> #startmeeting publiccloud-wg 14:01:41 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Dec 6 14:01:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:43 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:45 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' 14:01:50 <tobberydberg> o/ 14:01:56 <tobberydberg> Who's here? 14:02:32 <zhipeng> hey 14:02:37 <zhipeng> i'm here 14:02:42 <zhipeng> as planned :P 14:02:43 <tobberydberg> hi zhipeng 14:03:05 <tobberydberg> šš» 14:03:31 <tobberydberg> Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg 14:03:40 <tobberydberg> please add your name there 14:03:50 <tobberydberg> #topic Meetup at the PTG 14:04:06 <tobberydberg> Lets start talking about the potential meetup 14:05:18 <zhipeng> something on your mind for some goals we want to achieve at the PTG ? 14:05:48 <tobberydberg> 1. HAVE the meetup =) 14:06:06 <tobberydberg> no, but its always good to meet 14:06:23 <tobberydberg> good event to get more people involved 14:06:45 <tobberydberg> as well as for us getting more into the planning sessions for the projects as well 14:07:21 <tobberydberg> but also a couple of good focused day of actual work on our agenda 14:07:38 <zhipeng> so typically monday and tuesday are for the WG meetings 14:07:43 <zhipeng> cross project ones 14:07:52 <zhipeng> we could request a meeting room 14:08:00 <tobberydberg> cool, totally agree on that 14:09:17 <tobberydberg> Do you know who to contact for that 14:09:27 <zhipeng> I can send an email to kendal 14:11:27 <tobberydberg> #action zhipeng to request a meeting room for the PTG for monday and tuesday 14:11:51 <tobberydberg> Something else at that point? Or just leave it at that? 14:12:48 <tobberydberg> heey adriand! Awake? =) 14:13:07 <zhipeng> haha 14:13:26 <tobberydberg> Are you planning to go to the PTG zhipeng? 14:13:27 <zhipeng> I think topic wise, I want to discuss the blockchain idea with foundation people at Dublin 14:13:31 <zhipeng> yes definitely 14:13:44 <zhipeng> well of course after we have some conclusion from the PCWG 14:14:17 <zhipeng> tobberydberg should we arrange a video conf for me to introduce the discuss the blockchain proposal ? 14:15:12 <tobberydberg> Absolutly, that is fine! I have to read up to it as well 14:15:42 <tobberydberg> But we have to figure out the goals as well for the Passport program in general 14:16:22 <zhipeng> yep definitely 14:16:46 <tobberydberg> But, lets leave that for next meeting and then do some prep for that so that we have a suggestion to vote for 14:17:05 <zhipeng> yep 14:17:10 <zhipeng> sounds good 14:17:24 <tobberydberg> #action tobberydberg and zhipeng to define suggested goals for voting to next meeting 14:17:39 <tobberydberg> ok, so next topic 14:17:54 <tobberydberg> #topic 2. Make Missing features list u2d 14:18:26 <zhipeng> any conclusion we could use from the sydney summit for the elimination ? 14:19:00 <tobberydberg> Well, I started to prepare for it a little bit in the document 14:19:08 <tobberydberg> we have a couple of good ideas 14:19:53 <tobberydberg> like having a "contact person" for each item so that it become easier to ask more questions etc etc to make sure we all have the right understanding of the issue 14:20:02 <tobberydberg> (that column I added) 14:21:24 <tobberydberg> I also created a section in the bottom for old not valid items 14:21:31 <rmart04> Hi Guys, Hope you are all doing well, Iām straddling a couple of meetings ATM so Iām just keeping an eye on the meeting, but whats the āblockchain ideaā about? Is there an etherpad I can take a look at? 14:21:47 <tobberydberg> as well as one for not specified correctly, fuzzy items 14:22:17 <tobberydberg> zhipeng: Guess you have a slidedeck for that right? 14:22:25 <tobberydberg> hi rmart04 btw =) 14:22:32 <rmart04> :) 14:23:23 <zhipeng> rmart04 wait for me to find the link 14:23:58 <rmart04> Thanks @Zhipeng 14:24:16 <zhipeng> #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1RYRq1YdYEoZ5KNKwlDDtnunMdoYRAHPjPslnng3VqcI/edit?usp=sharing 14:24:31 <zhipeng> #info Blockchain proposal for Passport Ledger idea 14:25:10 <tobberydberg> so, should we walk through the list of items one by one item "replace" them? 14:25:14 <rmart04> that sounds like a cool idea, Iāll take a look! 14:28:06 <zhipeng> tobberydberg take us away 14:29:08 <tobberydberg> lets at the same time put the things we can try to have as low hanging fruit in the top 14:29:18 <tobberydberg> Self-service sign up 14:29:23 <tobberydberg> line 2 14:29:56 <tobberydberg> Pretty big one, but a catalyst have done some good work with their adjutant project 14:31:10 <jonher> Adjutant self sign-up actually works very well, bu we also did some customisations for "default resources" like network, router etc... 14:31:13 <tobberydberg> lets leave it as it is, its pretty well defined in general, but I guess we won't have that as an easy one for this relsase 14:31:28 <zhipeng> any dependency on existing core OpenStack services ? 14:31:30 <tobberydberg> ah, cool 14:31:37 <zhipeng> ya i agree 14:32:01 <tobberydberg> jonher: what would be your suggestion on moving that forward? 14:32:25 <tobberydberg> How to get more attention from the community to it etc etc 14:32:36 <jonher> The biggest problem right now that I could see from the current setup of adjutant us multi cloud/keystone 14:33:06 <jonher> is multi* 14:33:10 <tobberydberg> ah, ok. Well worth adding as a comment 14:36:13 <tobberydberg> movin on in the meantime and we can get back to that 14:36:14 <tobberydberg> Domain-level quota managements 14:36:52 <tobberydberg> NOT at all low hanging, concepts well thought though 14:37:24 <tobberydberg> Keep it there and add comments to the specs or pickup the mail thread, which is a major work 14:37:44 <zhipeng> that I know Keystone has been working on for a while 14:38:01 <tobberydberg> mmmm...I know...comes down to so much more 14:38:04 <zhipeng> there has been specs approved to introduce the limit api for quota mgmt 14:38:08 <zhipeng> I know 14:38:20 <zhipeng> but at least it is core project priority :P 14:38:28 <zhipeng> so low hanging enough :P 14:38:46 <tobberydberg> well, we can try to push for it 14:39:08 <tobberydberg> Leave it as is, well defined and documented 14:39:11 <tobberydberg> Project deletion 14:39:53 <tobberydberg> again, catalyst is doing some work here in the adjutant project 14:40:07 <tobberydberg> I would like to have it as a core feature 14:40:55 <tobberydberg> API and user/role based so its not an admin feature 14:42:00 <zhipeng> okey 14:42:50 <tobberydberg> This one missing specs here that is related to the core components 14:43:47 <zhipeng> for project deletion ? 14:44:00 <tobberydberg> yea 14:44:22 <tobberydberg> might exist, but not linked into this document 14:44:32 <zhipeng> ok understand 14:47:23 <zhipeng> moving on ? 14:48:19 <tobberydberg> yes 14:48:22 <tobberydberg> wrote a comment 14:48:27 <tobberydberg> Orphans 14:48:37 <tobberydberg> Needs better specification 14:49:01 <tobberydberg> Moved it to the fuzzy section 14:49:25 <tobberydberg> even though I'm pretty sure about the purpose, it needs to be specified better 14:49:55 <tobberydberg> ...this take some time going over the list....we need to do this offline as well .... 14:50:17 <zhipeng> ya agree 14:50:46 <tobberydberg> Volume muti-attach 14:50:58 <tobberydberg> scheduled for queens, right 14:50:59 <zhipeng> that is under dev in Nova 14:51:15 <tobberydberg> exactly 14:51:27 <tobberydberg> moving it last in doc.... 14:52:57 <tobberydberg> VPNaaS 14:53:25 <zhipeng> that is a service outside of Neutron Core ? 14:53:34 <tobberydberg> yes 14:53:54 <tobberydberg> but, the main thing isnƤt if it is core or not, just that it is maintained 14:54:07 <tobberydberg> Which is should be now as I understood it 14:54:10 <zhipeng> yes 14:54:16 <tobberydberg> Remove?? 14:54:20 <zhipeng> remove 14:55:29 <tobberydberg> Extended domain support Keystone 14:56:14 <tobberydberg> looking at the spec 14:56:31 <tobberydberg> or I mean to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433037/ 14:56:58 <zhipeng> looks like still under dev 14:57:54 <tobberydberg> yea, and not sure it covers the real thing here....might need better specification than "better domain suport in generl" 14:58:04 <zhipeng> i agree 14:58:11 <zhipeng> remove ? 14:58:35 <tobberydberg> I move it to fuzzy with a comment 14:58:39 <tobberydberg> So, time is out 14:59:02 <tobberydberg> schedule another day and have a work meeting in the public cloud channel? 14:59:36 <zhipeng> that'd be great 14:59:49 <tobberydberg> cool! Next week? 14:59:49 <zhipeng> thx tobias :) 14:59:53 <tobberydberg> thank you! 15:00:04 <zhipeng> i'm cool with any time this week as well 15:00:22 <tobberydberg> Ok, lt me see if If I can pull that of as well 15:00:28 <tobberydberg> #endmeeting