07:02:36 <zhipeng> #startmeeting publiccloud-wg
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07:02:50 <tobberydberg> o/
07:03:07 <zhipeng> hey :)
07:03:13 <zhipeng> how's spain :)
07:04:53 <tobberydberg> Hot =)
07:05:58 <zhipeng> haha looks like the north pole is going to melt
07:07:04 <zhipeng> #topic spec discussion
07:08:34 <zhipeng> #topic spec discussion
07:09:15 <zhipeng> meetbot seems dehydrated
07:09:22 <zhipeng> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/publiccloud-wg+status:open
07:09:30 <tobberydberg> Yes. Only you and me here?
07:09:39 <zhipeng> i think so
07:10:54 <zhipeng> i see there is a long commet from tomas on the pp spec
07:11:31 <tobberydberg> yes, reading that one now...
07:12:13 <tobberydberg> mjrichardson and adriant are you around?
07:13:23 <adriant> tobberydberg: I am right now, but about to vanish
07:13:51 <adriant> OH, this is the new meeting time
07:14:05 <adriant> yes, I can totally make this, I just entirely forgot!
07:15:49 <tobberydberg> No problem adriant ... just wanted to ping since it is pretty new =)
07:16:54 <adriant> I'm just about to catch a ride home, but will jump back online when I get home, so should be here for the last 30mins or so :)
07:16:58 <tobberydberg> Tomas added a few valid points ... I see them as "future potential solutions" ... will be hard to get participating clouds to implement that in the next release
07:17:27 <tobberydberg> Sounds good adriant =) Know this isn't a perfect time for you =)
07:18:56 <tobberydberg> Blockchain solution definitely support what Tomas proposes, and I like that idea, but asks more of each cloud to support it
07:20:11 <tobberydberg> regarding Q2 comment ... that is a little bit of a catch 22
07:20:12 <zhipeng> maybe we should use ptg to discuss it
07:21:12 <tobberydberg> We want to hand out more "credits" or bigger quota, but that is hard at tthe same time for scam
07:21:37 <tobberydberg> yea, guess we wont be dine by then but have a final at the PTG seams like a must
07:21:44 <tobberydberg> are you going zhipeng?
07:22:03 <zhipeng> just hand it over my visa application yesterday, should be able to get it on time
07:22:24 <zhipeng> i will book hotels and ariline ticket this week :P
07:22:35 <zhipeng> propably the price is already gone way up
07:23:36 <tobberydberg> Awesome! Counting on you to be there then =)
07:23:53 <zhipeng> :) fingers crossed
07:23:53 <tobberydberg> I booked mine a month ago =)
07:24:25 <zhipeng> i have to apply for a UK visa for Oct, so the US one was delayed
07:24:34 <zhipeng> but hopefully it is still in time
07:25:00 <tobberydberg> ok...I've never understood those limitations =)
07:26:12 <tobberydberg> We should make a comment on Tomas comment to continue the discussion there until the ptg
07:26:20 <zhipeng> yes absolutely
07:27:57 <tobberydberg> And I need to spend some time on your proposal regarding ledger
07:28:57 <tobberydberg> Also, need to write up the spec for "missing features" before ptg as well, so we can set the finals for that as well
07:29:08 <zhipeng> ah yes that one
07:30:27 <tobberydberg> Think it will be easier for people to understand how we have decided to work with the list if we have that "spec"
07:31:41 <tobberydberg> Think we have the hooks in the repo for having these specs published later as well .... not sure what else need to be done to get them in place under docs.openstack.org
07:32:09 <tobberydberg> That isn't that important, but would be nice when these 3 specs are done and approved
07:32:59 <zhipeng> yes agree
07:34:20 <tobberydberg> What else is on the table for today?
07:34:32 <zhipeng> nothing particularly from my side
07:34:47 <zhipeng> oh we should find time to have a meeting with melvin
07:34:59 <zhipeng> on the sdk certification for public clouds
07:35:11 <tobberydberg> We should at least wait for adriant to pop back in and see if he has something on his mind
07:35:25 <tobberydberg> yea, we should
07:35:30 <tobberydberg> before ptg?
07:36:13 <zhipeng> definitely
07:38:21 <tobberydberg> ok
07:38:42 <tobberydberg> I'm back from vacation 22nd. Can wait until then?
07:40:49 <zhipeng> i think so :)
07:41:57 <tobberydberg> ok, good
07:42:39 <zhipeng> if no other business i will let you go back to the sun :P
07:42:59 <tobberydberg> haha ... breakfast time =)
07:43:22 <tobberydberg> Well, lets wait a few minutes to check with adriant if he has something on his mind
07:44:08 <zhipeng> sure :)
07:44:25 <tobberydberg> Would be nice to know how many people that will show up in denver ... last time I thought it was you and me, but we filled the room
07:44:38 <tobberydberg> have no clue how it looks this time
07:47:14 <zhipeng> maybe fill up again :P
07:47:25 <tobberydberg> hopefully
07:48:24 <tobberydberg> we should take one of the meetings before the PTG to work the list of missing features as well ... I have a few things to add to the list as well
07:51:38 <zhipeng> i think we should also add some of the items matt mentioned on the etherpad
07:52:19 <tobberydberg> yes, agree and that was also on my mind....
07:52:36 <tobberydberg> a focused meeting for the list will be good
07:53:58 <zhipeng> yes
07:57:51 <tobberydberg> I'll try to make my self available for next weeks meeting as well ... not sure whats on the vacation agenda that day yet =)
07:58:56 <tobberydberg> Dropping off here ... so feel free to close the meeting any time =) Thanks for today!
07:59:10 <zhipeng> thanks :)
07:59:21 <zhipeng> #endmeeting