14:06:14 <tobberydberg> #startmeeting publiccloud_wg 14:06:14 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Feb 28 14:06:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:06:15 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:06:18 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' 14:06:44 <tobberydberg> Weather is actually awesome right now for being this time of the year 14:07:04 <tobberydberg> but it will soon go back to crap again =) 14:07:21 <tobberydberg> So, to the meeting agenda.... 14:07:42 <tobberydberg> #topic 1. Train goal: Deletion of resources 14:08:13 <zhipeng> Adrian has been driving that nicely ? 14:08:15 <tobberydberg> As you are aware of - this is proposed as a community wide goal for Train 14:08:27 <tobberydberg> very nice work 14:08:35 <tobberydberg> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639010/ 14:08:54 <zhipeng> Great ! I need to review that 14:09:05 <tobberydberg> Would like to just ping for this and if you have feedback of the proposed ... add comments! 14:09:34 <zhipeng> Definitely will take a look 14:09:38 <tobberydberg> I'll try to help out as much as I can, but will not be much code.. 14:11:24 <tobberydberg> I think adriant have summed that up in a very good way and captured the use case and problem 14:11:57 <tobberydberg> oh, just pinged him unintentionally ... sorry 14:12:01 <zhipeng> Yep 14:12:11 <tobberydberg> so ... next item... 14:12:12 <zhipeng> Haha 14:12:22 <tobberydberg> #topic 2. Summit Denver forum topics 14:13:09 <tobberydberg> Summit coming up and deadline for proposing Forum topics is 10th of March 14:13:42 <zhipeng> Unfortunately I won't be able to go to Denver 14:13:53 <tobberydberg> Kidding me? 14:13:56 <tobberydberg> :-) 14:14:45 <zhipeng> Given the time and the tension lol 14:14:57 <zhipeng> But look forward to have you in China in November ! 14:15:46 <tobberydberg> Yea, I really hope I will be able to go there! 14:16:43 <tobberydberg> Even though you are not going ... any opinions on topics to elaborate on at the Forum? 14:18:00 <zhipeng> I think at least some discussion regarding Train goals ? 14:19:29 <tobberydberg> Train goals for PCWG, or what are you thinking? 14:24:00 <tobberydberg> What else? 14:24:05 <tobberydberg> Follow up on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-change-ownership-of-resources 14:24:06 <tobberydberg> ? 14:24:43 <tobberydberg> Should we continue to have a forum session regarding missing features and the passport program? 14:24:54 <tobberydberg> Also thinking SDK certification? 14:25:52 <zhipeng> Yes I was thinking about like the resources ownership one 14:26:16 <zhipeng> I think maybe we should put passport program in the backburner for a while 14:26:36 <zhipeng> SDK Cert is still worth doing 14:27:01 <tobberydberg> Missing feature? 14:27:39 <tobberydberg> OR ... "The community wide operators need"-thing 14:28:24 <zhipeng> Missing features as in general for project deletion, ownership, ... 14:28:53 <zhipeng> We could push a top 3 from missing features as PCWG input of Train goal 14:29:11 <tobberydberg> Was thinking more as a session collecting "new things" - like a possibility for new users to bring issues to the community 14:29:36 <zhipeng> Ya that sounds good as well 14:30:03 <tobberydberg> Not public cloud specific, more operators in general 14:31:34 <zhipeng> Will you go to the Berlin Ops Meetup ? 14:33:11 <tobberydberg> No, unfortunate not 14:33:41 <tobberydberg> Was hoping to be able to go, but do not have the time 14:33:59 <zhipeng> Ah ok 14:34:09 <tobberydberg> Was hoping to go to the UK event as well, but that doesn't look good either... 14:35:51 <zhipeng> lol 14:36:36 <tobberydberg> Ok. I've added some suggestions to the etherpad ... will reach out to potential co-organizers of those as well 14:36:56 <tobberydberg> we might need one for the deletion of resources as well 14:37:11 <zhipeng> Yes 14:37:25 <tobberydberg> next topic 14:37:33 <tobberydberg> #topic 3. Followup goals 14:37:56 <tobberydberg> We actually did set some goals for this cycle.... 14:38:05 <tobberydberg> starting from top 14:38:13 <tobberydberg> Future of Passport program 14:38:31 <zhipeng> lol 14:38:54 <zhipeng> Can't see foundation has much interest in it now 14:39:03 <tobberydberg> WE haven't done much, but we had some discussion on going back to base and rewrite the "requirments" and focus on qualiity 14:39:39 <tobberydberg> Well, I guess they they still are... 14:39:44 <tobberydberg> But not sure 14:39:55 <tobberydberg> They have gotten new applications 14:40:10 <zhipeng> Ya I see that 14:40:26 <tobberydberg> I reviewed some ... might have forgot one as well 14:40:32 <tobberydberg> will have to check on that 14:41:43 <tobberydberg> Would be good to get that spec for that done, with the filtering option on the o.o as well 14:42:02 <zhipeng> Ah right, the filtering option 14:42:48 <tobberydberg> So, work needed before we can move on, and help needed from more parties for it to survive and be better 14:43:06 <zhipeng> Yes 14:43:18 <zhipeng> Absolutely agree with that 14:44:21 <tobberydberg> With more people on the meetings, things would be easier... ;-) 14:45:29 <tobberydberg> Missing features.... 14:46:48 <tobberydberg> not much work done there either since last time, but we have an ok structure for now to keep it as is and make prio of that 14:47:36 <zhipeng> Ya I think have a top 2 or 3 and push it for cycle goal would be a good close loop 14:47:45 <tobberydberg> exactly 14:48:01 <tobberydberg> SDK Certification - OpenLAB collaboration 14:48:18 <tobberydberg> That is something that we really should help our more on 14:48:33 <tobberydberg> Not sure about the latest there... 14:48:58 <tobberydberg> But I will follow up with mrhillsman on that one 14:49:31 <tobberydberg> UC Collaboration 14:49:48 <tobberydberg> I guess both we and the UC have failed there :-) 14:50:05 <zhipeng> Haha 14:52:56 <tobberydberg> I did one thing in stockholm at the Nordic event ... didn't take the time to do anything great with that feedback together with UC, but will try to followup with that as well 14:53:36 <tobberydberg> Hmmmm...my IRC client just made something strange 14:53:53 <tobberydberg> if you wrote something, please write again =) 14:54:12 <zhipeng> Nope was just waiting for your input :) 14:55:56 <tobberydberg> on what? =) 14:56:10 <tobberydberg> guess I missed that question of yours 14:56:32 <zhipeng> On everything lol 14:56:46 <tobberydberg> #topic . Other topics 14:56:48 <tobberydberg> hahaha 14:57:11 <tobberydberg> worlds peace is what I vote for then! :-) 14:57:18 <tobberydberg> *World 14:57:22 <mrhillsman> o/ 14:57:26 <mrhillsman> sorry i missed meeting 14:57:47 <tobberydberg> no worries mrhillsman .... as you can see we are about to solve world peace 14:57:52 <zhipeng> Hey Melvin :) 14:57:55 <mrhillsman> lol 14:58:02 <mrhillsman> i will read over the log 14:58:07 <mrhillsman> thought the meeting was yesterday 14:58:21 <mrhillsman> was online and forgot to update my calendar to today 14:58:24 <tobberydberg> please do ... I will try to attend a UC meeting soon =) 14:58:49 <tobberydberg> Also, thinking about some forum topics that we can talk about then 14:58:59 <mrhillsman> ++ 14:59:19 <tobberydberg> If you are awake I might ping you in 30 min, have another meeting coming up in 30 sec ... ;-) 15:00:14 <tobberydberg> zhipeng ... should we start to have the meetings on even weeks wednesdays at 0700 UTC? 15:00:22 <tobberydberg> to get some traction maybe? 15:00:43 <zhipeng> For Adrian at least lol 15:01:56 <tobberydberg> yea, but for others as well that might be in that TZ ... or just for us to have a dedicated time to get some collb work done 15:02:48 <tobberydberg> Thanks for today ... have to run here....lets try to talk next week in wednesday then =) Counting on you! :-) 15:02:49 <tobberydberg> #endmeeting