19:00:02 #startmeeting python-openstacksdk 19:00:02 Meeting started Tue Nov 17 19:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:00:06 The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' 19:00:31 \o 19:00:46 #topic KSA 19:01:22 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186140/ 19:01:34 terrylhowe: did you see jamie’s comment about taking an existing session, e.g., from OSC? i think that plus two comments i had on the previous changeset and then it’s probably good, right? 19:02:18 actually, is that something that would be another factory off of Connection? 19:02:22 didn’t notice that 19:02:31 probably 19:02:46 so maybe we do that in another change rather than hold this off? 19:03:48 I guess the connection class should have a constructor that takes a session in case you have one already 19:04:13 yeah, that’s probably the easiest way, to just add a session=None 19:04:19 yeh 19:04:52 terrylhowe: can you take a look at the comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186140/30/openstack/profile.py and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186140/30/openstack/service_filter.py 19:07:42 fine points briancurtin, I’d need to look at the exception some more to see if there is some other reason for that 19:08:12 terrylhowe: cool, whenever you get around to it, just wanted to make sure they didn’t get lost since the other bunch of comments were mostly just the same thing over and over 19:08:58 #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1517149 19:08:59 Launchpad bug 1517149 in OpenStack SDK "find method needed for BaseProxy" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) 19:09:13 as to the ServiceFilter isa dict, it is just convenient to say endpoint_filter=cls.service rather than endpoint_filter=cls.service.get_filter() 19:10:13 terrylhowe: can we get that if it was a MutableMapping? i don’t have a super strong case here, i’d have to dig in a bit more than i did 19:10:35 probably 19:11:03 can adjust that after anyway, it’s fine for now 19:12:23 on that find method bug, i’m going to try and hack that out quick this afternoon. i noticed it’s the only remaining proxy method that doesn’t run through BaseProxy but goes through the resources. in all of the fury around changing find a bunch of times, we never hooked it up through that, and i really only noticed it when someone contributed to the 19:12:23 Rackspace extension 19:13:18 is there much to be gained by having a method in BaseProxy? 19:14:39 Aren’t most of them one liners like: return profile.Profile.find(self.session, value, 19:14:40 ignore_missing=ignore_missing) 19:14:41 terrylhowe: consistency is a big one since this now sticks out like a sore thumb. it’s probably a relatively simple one to add 19:15:45 i guess it’s possible that i don’t end up adding it, but i’d like to at least look at it to see if it’s worth it. i’m not going to like documenting this in the contributor guide as “you do these 5 things this way, but this other one you do it a little different" 19:16:24 k 19:17:02 agreed. i'd prefer to see it in BaseProxy. 19:17:46 if it's not there, it leaves contributors pondering the reason why it wasn't included. 19:18:11 (since they're not going to read the contrib guide anyway :P) 19:18:43 s/read/find/ ? 19:18:54 that too 19:20:12 other than that stuff, i don’t have anything pressing that requires much of a discussion, just working through LP and gerrit. anyone have anything to cover? 19:20:27 yep 19:20:36 https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1479977 19:20:36 Launchpad bug 1479977 in OpenStack SDK "Get sdk docs on http://developer.openstack.org/python-openstacksdk/" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) 19:20:56 is that the url there the final resting place for our docs? 19:21:01 #topic docs on openstack.org 19:21:30 i've got a patch set ready to go but would rather confirm the url now. 19:22:01 just start throwing out urls for us to consider if you have an opinion 19:22:18 etoews: i guess so? as much as i’d like it to just be openstacksdk right there, as we’ve moved to that name in other places, it maybe makes sense to keep the python prefix there in the event that other language SDKs become official to the point that they also end up in the same spot as us 19:22:32 d.o.o/sdk/python 19:22:41 d.o.o/python-sdk 19:23:01 (having openstack in the later part of the url seems redundant to me) 19:23:12 Anne question? 19:23:22 not really 19:23:29 but maybe? 19:24:06 python-openstacksdk is fine with me, then the structure is flat 19:25:01 i’d probably just go with python-openstacksdk as the bug states. if we have to change in the future I’m sure someone can figure out some redirects or something 19:25:19 annegentle: ^ 19:25:42 would your patch do anything for the current state of http://developer.openstack.org/#sdk etoews? 19:25:53 nope 19:26:25 i know the application ecosystem working group is looking at revamping the landing page of d.o.o 19:26:31 stevelle: we have plans for that though 19:26:34 right etoews 19:26:37 but that doesn't really impact us at this point 19:26:39 sounds lovely 19:26:47 it really needs it 19:26:49 everything in it's own time 19:26:55 * annegentle goes to eavesdrop to catch up 19:27:40 in my defense, when i first helped create d.o.o it looked the same as the rest of the crappy design of openstack.org :P 19:28:01 then everything else got a facelift but d.o.o 19:28:29 etoews: heh 19:28:31 It looks a lot better than it did when I joined openstack, fwiw 19:29:49 sorry etoews I dont' know your question and can't find it on eavesdrop 19:30:17 https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1479977 19:30:17 Launchpad bug 1479977 in OpenStack SDK "Get sdk docs on http://developer.openstack.org/python-openstacksdk/" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) 19:30:20 do we want http://developer.openstack.org/python-openstacksdk/ to be the final url for the sdk docs 19:30:25 ? 19:31:03 etoews: ah. So the pattern we're establishing even last week is this so far: http://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute 19:31:14 and http://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/quick-start/ 19:31:21 those are the only two we have besides the large api ref page. 19:31:35 briancurtin and terrylhowe are for it. i'm wobbly on the redundant "openstack" in "python-openstacksdk". 19:31:36 so, what about http://developer.openstack.org/sdks/python-openstacksdk? 19:31:46 gives us a starting pattern? 19:32:00 if we’re going /sdks then i’d probably say /sdks/python 19:32:01 previously i had suggested d.o.o/sdk/python 19:32:03 and potential for a better landing page for sdks :) 19:32:16 etoews: there may be more than one python sdk for openstack, how would we handle? 19:32:29 that would be a bad idea, so don’t do that 19:32:29 ooooooh...i like the opportunity for an sdks landing page 19:33:52 there's already libcloud tho briancurtin 19:34:01 agreed that more than 19:34:06 not that they're gonna publish their docs, but they may have a landing page with links 19:34:15 one official python sdk is bad news 19:34:22 libcloud is libcloud though, not an openstack sdk? 19:34:56 briancurtin: agreed, but this audience needs info. At the summit for example I fielded questions about the 2-3 Go SDKs. So would it be better that there was a landing page listing possibillities 19:35:10 dev.o.o/sdks/go/, dev.o.o/sdks/python, etc? 19:35:15 really just talking outloud 19:35:16 I’m really just worried about the docs for my project 19:35:22 briancurtin: sure 19:35:33 dev.o.o/sdks/python/openstacksdk 19:35:54 sounds good to me 19:36:51 works for me 19:37:59 briancurtin: any thoughts on that one? 19:38:06 its fine 19:38:35 #agreed sdk docs to be published to developer.openstack.org/sdks/python/openstacksdk 19:38:54 ok, I've triaged that bug with that info as well as a link to a patchset that does the api-guide/compute publish configuration 19:39:40 cool. i've got a patch set to infra ready to go. just need to update it with the new url. 19:40:05 one last thing from me 19:40:09 https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1515074 19:40:09 Launchpad bug 1515074 in OpenStack SDK "Add support to stack update broke create server" [Undecided,New] 19:40:20 serious facepalm here 19:40:35 create server got broken. 19:40:36 oh yeah, there’s that 19:40:51 that's bad 19:41:10 i'd be freaking out a bit more if ksa wasn't rolling over the change that broke it 19:41:31 I had to fix that for ksa 19:41:38 i'm sure 19:42:00 terrylhowe: did you wind up getting to the bottom of the func test failures in the ksa patch set? 19:42:20 they are all passing now etoews 19:42:30 awesome 19:43:11 we can close that bug when ksa lands 19:43:19 yeh 19:43:22 i suppose that's all i have to say about that 19:45:36 nothing else from me 19:45:46 terrylhowe: anything else? 19:46:06 nothing from me 19:46:16 alrighty then 19:46:18 #endmeeting