07:58:10 <gmann> #startmeeting qa
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07:58:25 <gmann> who all here today
07:59:19 <mguiney> o/
08:00:01 <masayukig> o/
08:00:12 <masayukig> heh, it's a bit early start :)
08:00:24 <gmann> oh
08:01:14 <gmann> let's wait for couple of min
08:02:19 * masayukig nods
08:02:25 <andreaf> o/
08:02:26 <apart> o/ I am on my mobile phone
08:02:33 <gmann> let's start
08:02:36 <gmann> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_Nov_16th_2017_.280800_UTC.29
08:02:39 <gmann> today agenda ^^
08:03:13 <gmann> no action item from previous meeting
08:03:28 <gmann> #topic Sydney Summit
08:04:05 <gmann> we finished summit last week and few forum, onboarding sessions etc
08:04:28 <gmann> hope all are back from sydney :)
08:04:56 <masayukig> :)
08:05:34 * andreaf enjoying Bristol's rain and wind
08:05:43 <gmann> we got couple of feedback on qa
08:05:45 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-forum-qa-tools-plugins
08:05:53 <gmann> andreaf: nice.
08:06:32 <gmann> member who missed sydney summit can refer that etherpad
08:07:23 <masayukig> gmann: yeah, I think more attendees were there, though.
08:07:28 <apart> Sure
08:07:38 <gmann> masayukig: 4-5 :)
08:07:46 <gmann> but good progress
08:07:59 <gmann> andreaf: anything else on summit things
08:08:06 <masayukig> gmann: yup, it was not that much
08:08:11 <andreaf> one of the things we discussed during that session was the possibility of having a QA SIG - I will send en email soon to kick off the proposal
08:08:22 <gmann> yea
08:08:30 <chandankumar> \o/
08:08:49 <andreaf> the idea is to create a forum where people doing downstream qa may come together and share experiences and tools
08:09:01 <andreaf> and possible take some more of those into upstream
08:09:45 <gmann> yea, that will help on extreme testing and cross community testing things
08:10:03 <andreaf> that's my hope
08:10:03 <masayukig> nice, the "downstream" includes not only distros and operators but also opnfv, too?
08:10:19 <gmann> masayukig: yea
08:10:24 <chandankumar> andreaf: gmann the SIG will also help to improve calloboaration between communities
08:10:24 <andreaf> masayukig: sure well anyone is welcome to join
08:10:36 <chandankumar> andreaf: count me in
08:10:52 <andreaf> masayukig: and one hope is indeed that that could be a better forum from opnfv folks to discuss things QA
08:11:05 <andreaf> chandankumar: nice thanks
08:11:23 <masayukig> andreaf: yeah, I hope so
08:11:37 <chandankumar> apart from Sig, i have general question how we can do a survery how people are using tempest in their deloyment environment
08:11:48 <andreaf> let's see what the response is from the users/operators community
08:11:54 <gmann> yea
08:12:04 <masayukig> +1
08:12:17 <andreaf> chandankumar: well we've been doing that question at summits for a while
08:12:29 <gmann> chandankumar: we do not have user survey for qa but doing in forum sessions
08:12:33 <andreaf> chandankumar: unfortunately QA is not in the user survey
08:12:41 <gmann> yea
08:12:57 <chandankumar> andreaf: i think we can add that in user survey as QA plays a vital role
08:14:11 <chandankumar> andreaf: gmann do we publish the feedback somewhere from the forum?
08:14:24 <gmann> chandankumar: its in etherpad
08:14:31 <gmann> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-forum-qa-tools-plugins
08:15:03 <gmann> but thing is we do not get much people sharing feedback on qa.
08:15:20 * chandankumar goes through the etherpad and will add comments
08:15:36 <gmann> let's move next
08:15:41 <gmann> #topic Office Hours Summary
08:15:57 <gmann> no office hour last week. so skipping it
08:16:03 <chandankumar> yup
08:16:06 <gmann> #topic Tempest
08:16:25 <chandankumar> gmann: can you volunteer next office hour? i will be in someone's else marriage.
08:16:34 <gmann> Zuul V3 patches - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:zuulv3-tempest
08:16:38 <gmann> chandankumar: sure
08:16:45 <chandankumar> gmann: thanks :-)
08:16:56 <gmann> andreaf: seems like no much review on zuul v3
08:17:11 <martinkopec> hi, I'd have a question about zuulv3 in general
08:17:16 <gmann> i definitely will try to start tomorrow
08:17:39 * masayukig will pass the next office hour because of the national holiday in Japan
08:17:39 <andreaf> chandankumar: "can you volunteer" :D
08:18:00 <gmann> but everyone are welcome to review zuulv3 patch to get those in soon
08:18:05 <gmann> martinkopec: sure go ahead
08:18:06 <andreaf> martinkopec: sure what's your question
08:18:13 <chandankumar> andreaf: :-)
08:18:22 <martinkopec> gmann, andreaf thanks, I've encountered problems with running commands like 'openstack user list' from shell module in ansible
08:18:25 <martinkopec> http://logs.openstack.org/30/513330/40/check/python-tempestconf-tempest-devstack/bfa725b/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-15_13_59_46_158522
08:18:44 <martinkopec> but it works, when I use os modules instead ..
08:18:56 <martinkopec> therefor I think it could be environment related
08:19:01 <martinkopec> have you seen something like this?
08:19:50 <andreaf> martinkopec: so using the os modules should be fine
08:19:59 <martinkopec> andreaf, yes
08:20:05 <andreaf> martinkopec: but otherwise what I find handy is to pass --os-cloud=devstack-admin
08:20:13 <andreaf> or --os-cloud=devstack
08:20:20 <andreaf> depending on whether you use admin or not
08:20:36 <martinkopec> andreaf, here's the role https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513330/
08:20:39 <andreaf> since that removes the need for environment variables
08:20:45 <martinkopec> andreaf, I've sourced admin credentials, so it should be fine
08:23:26 <andreaf> martinkopec: if you use openstack CLI I find it more convenient to pass os-cloud as long as you use one of devstack defaults accounts since that's already setup for you
08:23:26 <gmann> martinkopec: andreaf i also think sourced one should work. anyways let's debug it on qa after mneeting
08:24:05 <masayukig> gmann: +1
08:24:17 <martinkopec> gmann, andreaf thanks, ok , let's have a look then
08:24:29 <gmann> anything else on tempest side
08:26:04 <gmann> let move if nothing
08:26:06 <gmann> #topic Critical Reviews
08:26:10 <gmann> any critical review
08:26:41 <gmann> i have one to make cleanup working  - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515253/
08:27:22 <andreaf> gmann: ok I will check today
08:27:33 <gmann> andreaf: thanks, it is quick one
08:27:56 * andreaf has to leave for a moment, g'day everyone
08:27:56 <gmann> let's jump to open
08:28:04 <gmann> #topic Open Discussion
08:28:25 <gmann> anything more to discuss on any topic
08:29:23 <chandankumar> masayukig: gmann andreaf love to get some feedback on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489421/ spec from qa side
08:30:14 <gmann> is it to auto generate config for tempest?
08:31:38 <chandankumar> gmann: yup
08:32:10 <gmann> chandankumar: ok. i am not sure about that as that might cause issues.
08:32:30 <gmann> anyways its on refstack client side.
08:32:34 <masayukig> chandankumar: yeah, I put it on my list.
08:33:44 <gmann> anything else or we can close it little early
08:33:48 <chandankumar> gmann: masayukig thanks :-)
08:34:46 <gmann> thanks all for joining
08:34:50 <gmann> #endmeeting