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14:00:29 <kopecmartin> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_Office_hours
14:00:34 <kopecmartin> agenda for today ^^
14:02:56 <kopecmartin> let's start
14:02:57 <kopecmartin> #topic Announcement and Action Item (Optional)
14:03:08 <kopecmartin> new releases
14:03:25 <kopecmartin> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/QA/releases
14:03:44 <kopecmartin> tempest release is pending review
14:04:00 <kopecmartin> and we have made patrole release
14:04:11 <kopecmartin> from projects with independent release mode
14:04:29 <kopecmartin> we made a release of os-testr, bashate and devstack-tools
14:05:00 <kopecmartin> we didn't do a new release of hacking and eslint-config-openstack as there weren't any relevant changes lately
14:05:07 <yoctozepto> o/
14:05:23 <kopecmartin> hi
14:05:41 <soniya29> hello
14:06:07 <kopecmartin> regarding projects with branches, we need to wait there until other projects get stable/* branches
14:06:15 <kopecmartin> a week or so, not exactly sure now
14:06:19 <kopecmartin> hi soniya29
14:06:47 <kopecmartin> that's all regarding announcements
14:06:49 <kopecmartin> #topic Xena Priority Items progress
14:06:53 <kopecmartin> any updates on this front?
14:06:59 <kopecmartin> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qa-xena-priority
14:07:35 * kopecmartin checking
14:09:21 <kopecmartin> regarding the secure RBAC item, i'm still playing with the env, experimenting .. not much to share atm
14:09:55 <kopecmartin> #topic OpenStack Events Updates and Planning
14:10:00 <kopecmartin> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qa-yoga-ptg
14:10:06 <kopecmartin> the etherpad for the PTG topics
14:10:28 <kopecmartin> feel free to add your proposals there , if you haven't already
14:10:31 <soniya29> regarding patrole improvements, i have added few RBAC tests, but due to patrole gates they are blocked
14:11:00 <kopecmartin> are the gates still failing?
14:11:04 * kopecmartin checking
14:11:18 <soniya29> yes, they are failing for test_force_detach_volume test
14:12:44 <soniya29> i think we need to get this patch - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/patrole/+/800594 merged to unblock the patrole gate
14:12:55 <kopecmartin> oh, i though gmann's patch fixed the gates
14:12:58 <kopecmartin> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/patrole/+/802549
14:13:06 <kopecmartin> seems not
14:14:27 <kopecmartin> ok, i'll have a look at 800594 later today, let's see what we can do abou it
14:15:02 <kopecmartin> #topic Gate Status Checks
14:15:07 <soniya29> kopecmartin, sure
14:15:10 <kopecmartin> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/label:Review-Priority%253D%252B2+status:open+(project:openstack/tempest+OR+project:openstack/patrole+OR+project:openstack/devstack+OR+project:openstack/grenade+OR+project:openstack/hacking)
14:15:15 <kopecmartin> any issues to bring up?
14:15:20 <kopecmartin> I don't see any urgent patches
14:17:04 <kopecmartin> #topic Periodic jobs Status Checks
14:17:09 <kopecmartin> #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=tempest-full-victoria-py3&job_name=tempest-full-ussuri-py3&job_name=tempest-full-train-py3&pipeline=periodic-stable
14:17:13 <kopecmartin> #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Ftempest&project=openstack%2Fdevstack&pipeline=periodic
14:17:23 <kopecmartin> all green \o/
14:17:30 <kopecmartin> #topic Sub Teams highlights
14:17:36 <kopecmartin> any updates, highlights we need to discuss today ?
14:17:59 <kopecmartin> Changes with Review-Priority == +1
14:17:59 <kopecmartin> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/label:Review-Priority%253D%252B1+status:open+(project:openstack/tempest+OR+project:openstack/patrole+OR+project:openstack/devstack+OR+project:openstack/grenade+OR+project:openstack/hacking)
14:18:04 <kopecmartin> there are none
14:19:50 <kopecmartin> #topic Open Discussion
14:19:59 <kopecmartin> replacing pcp-dstat being ugly (clarkb) and testing Debian (yoctozepto, frickler) actually have one common core goal - replacing dstat with something else
14:20:08 <kopecmartin> #link  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/807940
14:20:14 <kopecmartin> #link  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/808134
14:20:21 <kopecmartin> #link  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/789083
14:20:25 * kopecmartin checking the reviews
14:21:43 <yoctozepto> so
14:22:12 <yoctozepto> I don't think I want to go the collectl route either; imho a custom ps dumper would give better insight and have zero installation/compatibility issues
14:22:56 <yoctozepto> I'm mostly looking forward to opinions of others
14:23:36 <kopecmartin> gmann: afazekas ^^
14:23:48 <opendevreview> Archit Modi proposed openstack/whitebox-tempest-plugin master: Add Rbd direct download test  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/whitebox-tempest-plugin/+/786979
14:24:33 <kopecmartin> hmm, so none of the 3 options we seem to have is perfect
14:24:47 <kopecmartin> ah
14:25:11 <yoctozepto> yeah, and I need more insight into why debian is failing
14:25:29 <yoctozepto> another question is whether devstack itself should be concerned or this should be CI-side entirely
14:25:43 <yoctozepto> i.e. users of devstack are fine to even choose prometheus to monitor the deployment
14:29:17 <kopecmartin> is there a way how to make pcp-dstat to install reliably?
14:30:07 <yoctozepto> no idea, I bet clarkb would know if there was ;d
14:30:20 <kopecmartin> so both, pcp-dstat and collectl aren't stable for our use case, is there another option/tool we could use?
14:30:33 <yoctozepto> custom script with ps
14:30:39 <yoctozepto> I need it anyhow for debian debugging
14:30:46 <yoctozepto> might be handy enough for general cases too
14:31:41 <kopecmartin> that sounds interesting
14:32:20 <yoctozepto> ok, then for the lack of other opinions I will just go ahead with it when I get to devstack again ;d
14:32:52 <kopecmartin> seems like the online way for now
14:32:56 <kopecmartin> ok, thanks yoctozepto
14:33:31 <kopecmartin> anything else for open discussion?
14:33:58 <yoctozepto> thanks kopecmartin
14:35:14 <kopecmartin> #topic Bug Triage
14:35:20 <kopecmartin> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qa-bug-triage-xena
14:35:44 <kopecmartin> I pushed today another fix for
14:35:47 <kopecmartin> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1918316
14:35:56 <kopecmartin> i really hope, it's the last one :D
14:35:58 <clarkb> kopecmartin: yoctozepto: I mean there have been bugs opened against the package for years
14:36:07 <clarkb> and its a super complicated system for something taht should be quite simple
14:36:21 <yoctozepto> clarkb: I agree
14:36:30 <yoctozepto> hence why I just want to dump ps
14:36:40 <kopecmartin> then it's easier to go with ps
14:36:42 <kopecmartin> probably
14:37:06 <clarkb> what is wrong with collectl?
14:37:31 <clarkb> personally I don't think ps is the answer either as it isn't intended to be a performance metric collection tool
14:38:20 <clarkb> but I don't have super strong opinions on it beyond pcp is breaking the gate and seems needlessly complicated
14:38:31 <yoctozepto> clarkb: it seems cryptic and no longer maintained tbh
14:38:37 <yoctozepto> yeah, pcp agreed
14:41:00 <kopecmartin> yoctozepto: is collectl failing somewhere? could we use it in the meantime?
14:41:21 <yoctozepto> kopecmartin: I think the best temporary option is to just disable pcp
14:41:25 <yoctozepto> meaning dstat
14:45:06 <kopecmartin> well, sure, as long as devstack is running ..
14:45:12 <clarkb> kopecmartin: collectl is just a poc change I pushed. It shows it works and is simple. But no one else seems interested in using it
14:45:32 <clarkb> feel free to update my change and add a proper collectl service to enable instead of dstat
14:46:19 <kopecmartin> clarkb: thanks , i need to do some digging
14:46:31 <kopecmartin> i would also like to hear gmann's thoughts
14:46:54 <clarkb> my poc change has dstat service run collectl
14:47:08 <clarkb> which isn't really mergeable but good to see how collectl works and what it produces
14:48:10 <kopecmartin> ok, i'll have a look
14:48:50 <kopecmartin> anything else, regarding anything?
14:50:05 <kopecmartin> thanks all for joining, have a nice rest of the day
14:50:07 <kopecmartin> #endmeeting