14:00:22 #startmeeting qa 14:00:22 Meeting started Tue Sep 14 14:00:22 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kopecmartin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:22 The meeting name has been set to 'qa' 14:00:29 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_Office_hours 14:00:34 agenda for today ^^ 14:02:56 let's start 14:02:57 #topic Announcement and Action Item (Optional) 14:03:08 new releases 14:03:25 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/QA/releases 14:03:44 tempest release is pending review 14:04:00 and we have made patrole release 14:04:11 from projects with independent release mode 14:04:29 we made a release of os-testr, bashate and devstack-tools 14:05:00 we didn't do a new release of hacking and eslint-config-openstack as there weren't any relevant changes lately 14:05:07 o/ 14:05:23 hi 14:05:41 hello 14:06:07 regarding projects with branches, we need to wait there until other projects get stable/* branches 14:06:15 a week or so, not exactly sure now 14:06:19 hi soniya29 14:06:47 that's all regarding announcements 14:06:49 #topic Xena Priority Items progress 14:06:53 any updates on this front? 14:06:59 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qa-xena-priority 14:07:35 * kopecmartin checking 14:09:21 regarding the secure RBAC item, i'm still playing with the env, experimenting .. not much to share atm 14:09:55 #topic OpenStack Events Updates and Planning 14:10:00 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qa-yoga-ptg 14:10:06 the etherpad for the PTG topics 14:10:28 feel free to add your proposals there , if you haven't already 14:10:31 regarding patrole improvements, i have added few RBAC tests, but due to patrole gates they are blocked 14:11:00 are the gates still failing? 14:11:04 * kopecmartin checking 14:11:18 yes, they are failing for test_force_detach_volume test 14:12:44 i think we need to get this patch - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/patrole/+/800594 merged to unblock the patrole gate 14:12:55 oh, i though gmann's patch fixed the gates 14:12:58 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/patrole/+/802549 14:13:06 seems not 14:14:27 ok, i'll have a look at 800594 later today, let's see what we can do abou it 14:15:02 #topic Gate Status Checks 14:15:07 kopecmartin, sure 14:15:10 #link https://review.opendev.org/q/label:Review-Priority%253D%252B2+status:open+(project:openstack/tempest+OR+project:openstack/patrole+OR+project:openstack/devstack+OR+project:openstack/grenade+OR+project:openstack/hacking) 14:15:15 any issues to bring up? 14:15:20 I don't see any urgent patches 14:17:04 #topic Periodic jobs Status Checks 14:17:09 #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=tempest-full-victoria-py3&job_name=tempest-full-ussuri-py3&job_name=tempest-full-train-py3&pipeline=periodic-stable 14:17:13 #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Ftempest&project=openstack%2Fdevstack&pipeline=periodic 14:17:23 all green \o/ 14:17:30 #topic Sub Teams highlights 14:17:36 any updates, highlights we need to discuss today ? 14:17:59 Changes with Review-Priority == +1 14:17:59 #link https://review.opendev.org/q/label:Review-Priority%253D%252B1+status:open+(project:openstack/tempest+OR+project:openstack/patrole+OR+project:openstack/devstack+OR+project:openstack/grenade+OR+project:openstack/hacking) 14:18:04 there are none 14:19:50 #topic Open Discussion 14:19:59 replacing pcp-dstat being ugly (clarkb) and testing Debian (yoctozepto, frickler) actually have one common core goal - replacing dstat with something else 14:20:08 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/807940 14:20:14 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/808134 14:20:21 #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/789083 14:20:25 * kopecmartin checking the reviews 14:21:43 so 14:22:12 I don't think I want to go the collectl route either; imho a custom ps dumper would give better insight and have zero installation/compatibility issues 14:22:56 I'm mostly looking forward to opinions of others 14:23:36 gmann: afazekas ^^ 14:23:48 Archit Modi proposed openstack/whitebox-tempest-plugin master: Add Rbd direct download test https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/whitebox-tempest-plugin/+/786979 14:24:33 hmm, so none of the 3 options we seem to have is perfect 14:24:47 ah 14:25:11 yeah, and I need more insight into why debian is failing 14:25:29 another question is whether devstack itself should be concerned or this should be CI-side entirely 14:25:43 i.e. users of devstack are fine to even choose prometheus to monitor the deployment 14:29:17 is there a way how to make pcp-dstat to install reliably? 14:30:07 no idea, I bet clarkb would know if there was ;d 14:30:20 so both, pcp-dstat and collectl aren't stable for our use case, is there another option/tool we could use? 14:30:33 custom script with ps 14:30:39 I need it anyhow for debian debugging 14:30:46 might be handy enough for general cases too 14:31:41 that sounds interesting 14:32:20 ok, then for the lack of other opinions I will just go ahead with it when I get to devstack again ;d 14:32:52 seems like the online way for now 14:32:56 ok, thanks yoctozepto 14:33:31 anything else for open discussion? 14:33:58 thanks kopecmartin 14:35:14 #topic Bug Triage 14:35:20 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qa-bug-triage-xena 14:35:44 I pushed today another fix for 14:35:47 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1918316 14:35:56 i really hope, it's the last one :D 14:35:58 kopecmartin: yoctozepto: I mean there have been bugs opened against the package for years 14:36:07 and its a super complicated system for something taht should be quite simple 14:36:21 clarkb: I agree 14:36:30 hence why I just want to dump ps 14:36:40 then it's easier to go with ps 14:36:42 probably 14:37:06 what is wrong with collectl? 14:37:31 personally I don't think ps is the answer either as it isn't intended to be a performance metric collection tool 14:38:20 but I don't have super strong opinions on it beyond pcp is breaking the gate and seems needlessly complicated 14:38:31 clarkb: it seems cryptic and no longer maintained tbh 14:38:37 yeah, pcp agreed 14:41:00 yoctozepto: is collectl failing somewhere? could we use it in the meantime? 14:41:21 kopecmartin: I think the best temporary option is to just disable pcp 14:41:25 meaning dstat 14:45:06 well, sure, as long as devstack is running .. 14:45:12 kopecmartin: collectl is just a poc change I pushed. It shows it works and is simple. But no one else seems interested in using it 14:45:32 feel free to update my change and add a proper collectl service to enable instead of dstat 14:46:19 clarkb: thanks , i need to do some digging 14:46:31 i would also like to hear gmann's thoughts 14:46:54 my poc change has dstat service run collectl 14:47:08 which isn't really mergeable but good to see how collectl works and what it produces 14:48:10 ok, i'll have a look 14:48:50 anything else, regarding anything? 14:50:05 thanks all for joining, have a nice rest of the day 14:50:07 #endmeeting