21:00:14 #startmeeting quantum 21:00:14 Meeting started Mon Dec 31 21:00:14 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:16 hi 21:00:18 The meeting name has been set to 'quantum' 21:00:21 arosen: hello! 21:00:32 greatings from 10,000 ft folks. 21:00:37 hi 21:00:41 Hi guys 21:00:47 i'm flying above western nebraska :) 21:01:02 garyk, salv-orlando, both of you should DEFINIITELY not be here... 21:01:13 danwent: :) 21:01:28 ok, let's do a roll call. of who is here. if we don't have many people, we can just addrss urgent business and call it a meeting 21:01:35 hi 21:01:42 great. So I'm not here :) 21:01:48 ha ha ha 21:01:53 I did my best to put a lot of info in the agenda, so people could more or less read it and understand what's going on 21:02:18 #info detailed info about meeting topics is at: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings 21:02:30 Hi 21:02:55 ok, let's try to move quickly. 21:03:21 #info thanks to nati_ueno and team, we now have a gate running on devstack as well as devstack + tempest 21:03:35 Thanks 21:03:55 #info right now these gates are in trial mode, so failures to do prevent comments, so keep an eye on them. If we don't see any false-positives, we will soon switch to actually gating on them. 21:04:21 danwent: is this the reason why jenkins takes quite a long time to give his +1 21:04:23 #info grizzly-2 branch point is one week from today. So all features should be in code review with two core dev reviewers actively reviewing. 21:04:39 garyk: yes, I suspect it takes longer with gate than when it just had to run unit tests. 21:04:51 danwent: ok 21:05:19 #info next stable release is planned for end of January. Will be 2012.2.3 21:05:26 garyk: anything to add on stable announcement? 21:05:40 #info no openstack project meeting tomorrow due to holiday. 21:05:45 any other announcements? 21:05:48 danwent: no, just business as usual. decent progress 21:06:04 Ok, i'm going to skip the docs section, as there's nothing urgent. 21:06:10 please see agenda for details. 21:06:16 #topic grizzly-2 release 21:06:24 #link current status: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-2 21:06:59 we have a lot of stuff in review, so I'd like to focus on what we think we have a good chance of merging by next tuesday, considering the holidays this week. 21:07:21 on gating, there's one more devstack review to get tempest tests passing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18665/ 21:07:38 we're waiting for input from tempest/devstack people. 21:07:51 but i'm super pumped about the fact that gating is now up and running. 21:07:54 nati_ueno: anything to add? 21:08:21 #info db migration patch seems close to merge. has several core devs on it. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-db-upgrades 21:08:23 danwent: That's all for now. In January, I will fix tempest & tenant problems 21:09:09 i'm not aware of any fundemental concerns with db-migration stuff. if anyone is, please raise it now. 21:09:24 otherwise, i expect the review to complete by next tuesday as scheduled 21:10:09 nati_ueno: comments on security group branch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16210/ 21:10:17 seems like its back out of WIP 21:10:35 other than gary's bug, are there major outstanding issues (i assume the additional tests were added?) 21:10:42 danwent: Yes I discussed with Akihiro, and I added unit test he mentioned 21:11:01 danwent: nati_ueno : its looking a lot better. i had a few questions with last patch 21:11:21 danwent: garyk: Thanks I'll fix it in Today 21:12:01 nati_ueno: ok, can you send a note to garyk, amotoki, and arosen, just to make sure we have two core devs with availability this week to review. 21:12:20 danwent: I have already send it 21:12:48 #info we expect security groups review to merge this week, with garyk and either amotoki/arosen as core devs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16210/ 21:12:48 danwent: Ah but i should confirm availability of this week. THanks 21:13:25 salv-orlando: service type stuff is back out of WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17686/ 21:13:35 salv-orlando: i still owe you a review on this. 21:14:17 salv-orlando: hopefully salv-orlando's vision is too blurry to see the screen right now :P 21:15:01 #info service type should merge by next tuesday, but will need two core devs (garyk + danwent)? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17686/ 21:15:23 #info lbaas API code merged since last meeting 21:15:30 danwent: salv-orlando: yup i am in on reviewing this one 21:15:44 focus is now on getting lbaas crud code merged. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16919/ 21:16:23 anyone her who can comment on status of review? 21:16:47 looks like the mirantis team has been working closely with the review, which is good. 21:17:14 garyk (as always) has been helping too. do we have another core dev active on this? 21:17:25 ah, i see salv-orlando as well. 21:18:22 #info likelihood of lbaas crud review for G-2 is unclear. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16919/ 21:18:31 #todo #danwent follow-up with leon on status. 21:18:42 i'm a bit worried that with leon being in china, they may be off the next couple of days. 21:19:20 garyk: any comments you wanted to make on vif-plugging stuff? only current patch is in nova, right? 21:19:39 danwent: correct. still have to resolve the design issues :( 21:20:06 danwent: hopefully in the coming week. saw you moved this to g3 which is cool with me 21:20:18 yup, was just typing that. 21:20:36 we shoudl also figure out if we need something filed in nova for this, as likely will be a non-trivial nova change. 21:20:46 and I want to make sure its on vish's radar 21:20:54 thanks 21:21:26 #info vif-plugging improvements are still in design discussions. nova team has some ideas on it as wel :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17747/ 21:21:47 garyk: would be good to bring tr3buchet into the discussion as well. he may have a good viewpoint, as they are using xenserver 21:22:07 danwent: good idea. i'll be in touch with him 21:22:18 yong isn't here, but I just wanted to highlight that we're in design discussions around the multi-agent work he's been doing 21:22:48 #info design spec for multi-dhcp/l3-agent work by yong: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TJlW0_tMpeENA_ia38fvRu7ioKRt9fsWXBjivwd1mMw/edit 21:23:09 #info multi-agent stuff will be g-3, but would be good to continue design discussion in G-2 21:23:23 final item: pagination. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/support-pagination-in-api-v2 21:23:42 this is a monster patch, doesn't seem to have active core devs reviewing. this is ok, as it is medium priority. 21:23:54 just wanted to confirm this before i bump to G-3. Any concerns? 21:24:47 ok, any other G-2 features we need to discuss? by now, hopefully there aren't any surprises :) 21:25:21 remember, all code must be posted by tomorrow for any G-2 feature AND there should be two core devs committed to reviewing it this week. 21:25:33 There's the Hyper-V plugin :-) 21:25:50 alexpilotti: i have a slot to discuss that at the end of the agenda 21:26:04 danwent: Cool! 21:26:24 #topic folsom stable 21:26:42 garyk, anything to comment on specifically, or just to have people read the email you sent out? 21:26:56 i copy/pasted from the email into the agenda, but we probably don't need to go through each in detail. 21:27:10 danwent: no comments. i think i just sent the mail to quantum core. tomorrow i'll send a mail to the list 21:27:36 the only general thing I want to say is that garyk has been carrying quite a load leading the folsom/stable stuff, and we all need to do a better job of pitching in and helping him out. So please look for bugs + backports to pick off in emails that garyk sends out. 21:27:39 danwent: just importnat for people to give karma to the reviews in stable 21:28:07 #topic tempest and quantum 21:28:28 mnewby is not here, but others are 21:28:53 can someone point out the active blueprints for tempest in quantum now that maru's base patch is in? I want to make sure people are able to coordinate efforts. 21:29:17 I'm working on tempest also. 21:29:20 danwent: I have submitted to BP's for approval 21:29:31 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/tempest-tests-api 21:29:32 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/extended-tempest-tests-api 21:29:36 mlavalle: yes. 21:29:47 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-basic-quantum-system-tests 21:29:49 danwent: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/quantum-tempest this one 21:29:50 danwent: Yes, those two 21:29:57 I have set maru to be approver. as i mentioned, these BPs should probably be filed under tempest 21:30:04 does anyone here attend the tempest team meetings? 21:30:17 danwent: I can attend from now on 21:30:26 I'm fine having a quantum meeting slot for this as well, but we should at least be linked to the main project 21:30:30 mlavalle: great, thanks. 21:30:39 and report back to this meeting on Mondays 21:30:50 mlavalle: Thanks! 21:31:05 nati_ueno, zyluo, mlavalle are you already in sync on who is doing what, or would some openstack-dev discussion time be useful? 21:31:30 danwent: I think some discussion will be helpful 21:31:30 danwent: I agree. 21:31:34 Yeah we need to sync up I think 21:31:54 ok, email or openstack-dev, either if fine with me. just want to make sure we're coordinated. 21:32:23 danwent; I'll start an email thread on this 21:32:33 mlavalle: thx. 21:32:58 #todo mlavalle to start email thread to coordinate quantum tempest next steps now that main patch has merged 21:33:17 and copy nati_ueno and zyluo 21:33:24 and maru 21:33:30 mlavalle +1 21:33:33 actually, i'd just copy the ML 21:33:42 as i believe there are others interested as well. 21:33:48 danwent: ok, will do 21:34:03 all the ML 21:34:04 please put [Quantum] in subject, otherwise many of us will miss it :P 21:34:17 #topic quantum + horizon 21:34:17 danwent: will do 21:34:22 amotoki is not here, but nati_ueno is 21:34:37 nati_ueno: i noticed that several of the G-2 horizon blueprints are only in 'started' status 21:34:49 is status out of date, or are these likely to slip from G-2? 21:35:01 I'll push the review of l3 stuff by 1/4. 21:35:11 if slip, we probably need to try and recruit more resources, as i know there was a fair amount of work already slotted for G-3 21:35:26 but if the situation is not good, I'll slip the review 21:35:31 nati_ueno: ok, please ping amotoki and gabriel on this, so the reviews do not come as a surprise 21:35:40 danwent: sure 21:35:50 nati_ueno: are the other two issues from amotoki? 21:35:57 yes 21:36:04 #todo danwent check with amotoki about his G-2 horizon + quantum issues 21:36:14 #topic open discussion 21:36:18 alexpilotti: ping 21:36:31 dansmith: Tx 21:36:42 danwent: Ops :-) 21:36:59 I'm writing on the iPhone and it's 23.30 here 21:37:21 Not my best sober status :-) 21:37:22 alexpilotti: it is easier to drink beer at this hour 21:37:26 #info alexpilotti has been working on a hyper-v plugin. they are looking for a core dev to work with them as the official maintainer 21:37:47 Yep, we have the VLAN implementation ready 21:38:01 And NVGRE in the works 21:38:11 they are going to keep the initial version pretty simple to make it easier to maintain, as they get up to speed on contributing to the committy 21:38:12 with the goal of eventually having their own core dev to maintain it. 21:38:25 alexpilotti: feel free to add anything else. 21:38:32 The plugin side is largely based on the OVS one 21:38:47 alexpilotti will be sending out link to code in a public repo so people can take a look. 21:38:51 While the agent is of course very platform dependent 21:39:02 alexpilotti: it will also be important that people have a way to test. 21:39:09 Sure 21:39:10 danwent: alexpilotti: i seem to be missing something. why not just have hyperv support for all plugins (kind of like a hyp[re v directory) 21:39:15 alexpilotti: is there devstack support for hyper-v? 21:39:31 No 21:39:50 alexpilotti: ok, that will make things trickier 21:39:54 We use devstack for the controller 21:40:10 And quantum-server runs there 21:40:17 garyk: this is where something like a generic vlan plugin coudl come into play 21:40:18 With the HyperV plugin 21:40:28 Only the agent runs on HyperV 21:40:51 ok, understood. 21:40:53 garyk: and in the future, perhaps a plugin that supports nvgre. 21:40:58 Having quantum-server running on windows is also on the roadmap 21:41:10 garyk: i think alexpilotti may also be working on getting OVS integrated into hyper-v, which would be very cool. 21:41:20 Correct 21:41:36 this woudl actually let a lot of plugins work with hyper-v 21:41:42 without significant changes 21:41:50 ok, any other open discussion before we wrap it up? 21:41:51 Yes 21:42:07 alexpilotti: was that yes to additional discussion? 21:42:08 alexpilotti: Cin cin 21:42:15 as we say in africa - happy happy happy! 21:42:22 garyk: indeed 21:42:28 have a very happy new year folks 21:42:30 Yes to OVS :-) 21:42:34 here's to 2013, the year of Quantum :) 21:42:41 #endmeeting