14:02:34 <andreykurilin__> #startmeeting Rally 14:02:35 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Apr 11 14:02:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreykurilin__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02:36 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:02:38 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'rally' 14:03:45 <andreykurilin__> o/ 14:04:23 <ikhudoshyn> hi there 14:04:47 <andreykurilin__> amaretskiy rvasilets : ping 14:04:51 <amaretskiy> hi 14:05:01 <ikhudoshyn> looks like our agenda is empty 14:05:05 <andreykurilin__> yeah 14:05:17 <andreykurilin__> and there is no a lot of attendies 14:05:29 <andreykurilin__> but we have something to discuss 14:05:35 <ikhudoshyn> so we'll be quick )) 14:05:36 <andreykurilin__> at least one topic:) 14:05:42 <andreykurilin__> amaretskiy 14:06:21 <amaretskiy> let's talk about term "workload" which appears in two different meanings 14:06:29 <amaretskiy> so this becomes confusing 14:06:35 <andreykurilin__> ok 14:06:51 <ikhudoshyn> i got some input on that 14:07:01 <andreykurilin__> #topic Term "workload" 14:07:21 <ikhudoshyn> 'cos I kinda was close to birth of the term 14:07:26 <amaretskiy> 1st occurrence is plugins directory https://github.com/openstack/rally/tree/master/rally/plugins/workload 14:08:00 <amaretskiy> 2nd is a new name of scenario in our new task format https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/doc/specs/in-progress/new_rally_input_task_format.rst 14:08:19 <ikhudoshyn> amaretskiy: let me clarify on that ^^ 14:08:20 <amaretskiy> this is really confusing 14:08:43 <amaretskiy> in our new task format, we will call scenario "workload" 14:08:50 <ikhudoshyn> nope)) 14:08:59 <ikhudoshyn> we won't 14:09:09 <amaretskiy> task/subtasks/workloads 14:09:14 <ikhudoshyn> yep 14:09:17 <amaretskiy> here is the structure^ 14:09:23 <ikhudoshyn> but it's not a scenario) 14:09:29 <amaretskiy> butrecently we have a dir in plugins 14:09:33 <amaretskiy> named "workloads" 14:09:52 <amaretskiy> workload 14:10:35 <amaretskiy> this dir is for plugins related to VM load scripts 14:10:44 <amaretskiy> I propose to rename this dir 14:11:04 <amaretskiy> find new term, like vmload, vmperf, etc..... 14:11:21 <amaretskiy> something that differ from "workload" 14:11:28 <amaretskiy> any ideas? 14:11:47 <ikhudoshyn> vmworkload 14:11:57 <andreykurilin__> +1 14:12:02 <amaretskiy> looks good 14:12:09 <ikhudoshyn> so it differs from Rally workload 14:12:12 <amaretskiy> but too long :) 14:12:30 <ikhudoshyn> r we gonna to use it often? 14:12:40 <amaretskiy> shakers :) 14:12:54 <amaretskiy> ? 14:12:54 <ikhudoshyn> cos it's long but more or less self-explaning 14:13:22 <ikhudoshyn> shaker will get deprecatred earlier or later imo 14:14:01 <amaretskiy> just rename workload->shaker :) 14:14:11 <ikhudoshyn> why shaker? 14:14:25 <ikhudoshyn> boris-42 gonna love it)) 14:14:50 <amaretskiy> just remember about project that does something similar 14:14:50 <ikhudoshyn> he's a big cocktail enthusiast 14:15:21 <amaretskiy> https://github.com/openstack/shaker 14:15:40 <ikhudoshyn> it's only one project, I believe our stuff is multy-purpose) 14:15:44 <andreykurilin__> amaretskiy: as far as I understand shaker is only about network workloads 14:16:16 <amaretskiy> I propose just name for the dir 14:16:31 <amaretskiy> okay, any other ideas, start voting? 14:17:39 <ikhudoshyn> +1 for vmworkload ) 14:19:36 <amaretskiy> maybe create google form and get opinions from most team members? 14:19:55 <ikhudoshyn> start mail thread.. 14:20:08 <rvasilets> Hi 14:20:10 <ikhudoshyn> announce preliminary meeting 14:20:21 <ikhudoshyn> than actual meeting)) 14:20:41 <ikhudoshyn> maybe we'll just go with voting right now? )) 14:20:47 <ikhudoshyn> hi rvasilets 14:20:48 <amaretskiy> ikhudoshyn: i think we need opinion from redixin and boris-42 14:21:05 <ikhudoshyn> amaretskiy: that's true 14:21:38 <ikhudoshyn> but if we're looking for the voice of the two, google form seems a bit redundant for me)) 14:21:50 <ikhudoshyn> why just don't ask them? 14:22:04 <andreykurilin__> amaretskiy: -1 for google form:) 14:22:08 <ikhudoshyn> (yep I noticed that they both are absent today))) 14:22:10 <amaretskiy> how to collect votes/ another ideas? 14:22:47 <ikhudoshyn> amaretskiy: try starting with tellyng your own vote)) 14:23:04 <ikhudoshyn> rvasilets: join us) 14:23:06 <rvasilets> idea to create the patch with propose) 14:23:19 <amaretskiy> I would vote for vmload, vmperf, shaker (all get +) 14:23:42 <amaretskiy> vmworkload - good but too long 14:23:57 <ikhudoshyn> so by far +2 for vmworkload, +1 for vmload, +1 vmperf, +1 shaker)) 14:23:57 <rvasilets> crossload 14:24:19 <ikhudoshyn> rvasilets: pls elaborate 14:24:28 <amaretskiy> vmio ? 14:24:33 <rvasilets> -1 for shaker and vmperf 14:24:41 <ikhudoshyn> is it really 'cross' 14:24:52 <ikhudoshyn> is it really only for 'io' 14:24:53 <rvasilets> +1 for vmload and crossload 14:25:30 <rvasilets> the idea with crossload is similar as in crosstraining term 14:25:34 <ikhudoshyn> so we got +2 for vmworkload and +2 for vmload 14:25:38 <amaretskiy> andreykurilin__: your vote..... ? 14:25:50 <ikhudoshyn> what we have to do is just ask redixin and boris-42 14:26:20 <ikhudoshyn> andreykurilin__: was for vmworkload 14:26:27 <andreykurilin__> :) 14:26:52 <rvasilets> chris also is absent 14:26:55 <andreykurilin__> amareskiy: please, start a mailing thread about this new entity 14:27:11 <rvasilets> it would be good tohave his vote too 14:27:15 <ikhudoshyn> ["sarcasm"] ? 14:27:21 <amaretskiy> andreykurilin__: ok, let it be mail list 14:27:25 <ikhudoshyn> andreykurilin__: ^^ 14:27:32 <andreykurilin__> ikhudoshyn: no 14:27:37 <rvasilets> let it be, let it be...(song) 14:27:38 <ikhudoshyn> ok 14:27:55 <ikhudoshyn> letter 'b', letter 'b'... (song) 14:27:59 <andreykurilin__> it would be nice if community will know everything about our new stuff 14:29:36 <ikhudoshyn> agreed, let the mail-thread begins.. 14:29:44 <andreykurilin__> ok, so there is one more topic 14:29:44 <ikhudoshyn> anything else to discuss? 14:30:05 <andreykurilin__> it relates to this previous one 14:30:34 <andreykurilin__> #topic Rally glossary 14:30:37 <andreykurilin__> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266389/ 14:30:50 <andreykurilin__> we should start working on our glossary as soon as possible 14:31:03 <rvasilets> ok 14:31:08 <rvasilets> i will look at it 14:31:09 <amaretskiy> andreykurilin__: I will submit a patch set soon 14:31:37 <andreykurilin__> rvasilets: it doesn't include a lot of terms yet 14:32:35 <andreykurilin__> ikhudoshyn: since you are familiar with new rally task format, please add some terms there 14:32:49 <ikhudoshyn> not really constructive, but usually Glossary is put closer to the end of TOC 14:32:57 <ikhudoshyn> andreykurilin__: will do 14:33:15 <rvasilets> and our native speaker chris also welcome there=) 14:33:24 <amaretskiy> andreykurilin__: ikhudoshyn: I will add terms in new patch, but need to discuss their definitions 14:33:38 <andreykurilin__> ok 14:33:55 <andreykurilin__> thanks 14:34:06 <andreykurilin__> that is all from my side 14:34:11 <andreykurilin__> anything else to discuss? 14:34:35 <rvasilets> nothing from me) 14:34:58 <andreykurilin__> ok 14:35:05 <andreykurilin__> #endmeeting