14:02:34 <andreykurilin__> #startmeeting Rally
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14:03:45 <andreykurilin__> o/
14:04:23 <ikhudoshyn> hi there
14:04:47 <andreykurilin__> amaretskiy rvasilets : ping
14:04:51 <amaretskiy> hi
14:05:01 <ikhudoshyn> looks like our agenda is empty
14:05:05 <andreykurilin__> yeah
14:05:17 <andreykurilin__> and there is no a lot of attendies
14:05:29 <andreykurilin__> but we have something to discuss
14:05:35 <ikhudoshyn> so we'll be quick ))
14:05:36 <andreykurilin__> at least one topic:)
14:05:42 <andreykurilin__> amaretskiy
14:06:21 <amaretskiy> let's talk about term "workload" which appears in two different meanings
14:06:29 <amaretskiy> so this becomes confusing
14:06:35 <andreykurilin__> ok
14:06:51 <ikhudoshyn> i got some input on that
14:07:01 <andreykurilin__> #topic Term "workload"
14:07:21 <ikhudoshyn> 'cos I kinda was close to birth of the term
14:07:26 <amaretskiy> 1st occurrence is plugins directory https://github.com/openstack/rally/tree/master/rally/plugins/workload
14:08:00 <amaretskiy> 2nd is a new name of scenario in our new task format https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/doc/specs/in-progress/new_rally_input_task_format.rst
14:08:19 <ikhudoshyn> amaretskiy: let me clarify on that ^^
14:08:20 <amaretskiy> this is really confusing
14:08:43 <amaretskiy> in our new task format, we will call scenario "workload"
14:08:50 <ikhudoshyn> nope))
14:08:59 <ikhudoshyn> we won't
14:09:09 <amaretskiy> task/subtasks/workloads
14:09:14 <ikhudoshyn> yep
14:09:17 <amaretskiy> here is the structure^
14:09:23 <ikhudoshyn> but it's not a scenario)
14:09:29 <amaretskiy> butrecently we have a dir in plugins
14:09:33 <amaretskiy> named "workloads"
14:09:52 <amaretskiy> workload
14:10:35 <amaretskiy> this dir is for plugins related to VM load scripts
14:10:44 <amaretskiy> I propose to rename this dir
14:11:04 <amaretskiy> find new term, like vmload, vmperf, etc.....
14:11:21 <amaretskiy> something that differ from "workload"
14:11:28 <amaretskiy> any ideas?
14:11:47 <ikhudoshyn> vmworkload
14:11:57 <andreykurilin__> +1
14:12:02 <amaretskiy> looks good
14:12:09 <ikhudoshyn> so it differs from Rally workload
14:12:12 <amaretskiy> but too long :)
14:12:30 <ikhudoshyn> r we gonna to use it often?
14:12:40 <amaretskiy> shakers :)
14:12:54 <amaretskiy> ?
14:12:54 <ikhudoshyn> cos it's long but more or less self-explaning
14:13:22 <ikhudoshyn> shaker will get deprecatred earlier or later imo
14:14:01 <amaretskiy> just rename workload->shaker :)
14:14:11 <ikhudoshyn> why shaker?
14:14:25 <ikhudoshyn> boris-42 gonna love it))
14:14:50 <amaretskiy> just remember about project that does something similar
14:14:50 <ikhudoshyn> he's a big cocktail enthusiast
14:15:21 <amaretskiy> https://github.com/openstack/shaker
14:15:40 <ikhudoshyn> it's only one project, I believe our stuff is multy-purpose)
14:15:44 <andreykurilin__> amaretskiy: as far as I understand shaker is only about network workloads
14:16:16 <amaretskiy> I propose just name for the dir
14:16:31 <amaretskiy> okay, any other ideas, start voting?
14:17:39 <ikhudoshyn> +1 for vmworkload )
14:19:36 <amaretskiy> maybe create google form and get opinions from most team members?
14:19:55 <ikhudoshyn> start mail thread..
14:20:08 <rvasilets> Hi
14:20:10 <ikhudoshyn> announce preliminary meeting
14:20:21 <ikhudoshyn> than actual meeting))
14:20:41 <ikhudoshyn> maybe we'll just go with voting right now? ))
14:20:47 <ikhudoshyn> hi rvasilets
14:20:48 <amaretskiy> ikhudoshyn: i think we need opinion from redixin and boris-42
14:21:05 <ikhudoshyn> amaretskiy: that's true
14:21:38 <ikhudoshyn> but if we're looking for the voice of the two, google form seems a bit redundant for me))
14:21:50 <ikhudoshyn> why just don't ask them?
14:22:04 <andreykurilin__> amaretskiy: -1 for google form:)
14:22:08 <ikhudoshyn> (yep I noticed that they both are absent today)))
14:22:10 <amaretskiy> how to collect votes/ another ideas?
14:22:47 <ikhudoshyn> amaretskiy: try starting with tellyng your own vote))
14:23:04 <ikhudoshyn> rvasilets: join us)
14:23:06 <rvasilets> idea to create the patch with propose)
14:23:19 <amaretskiy> I would vote for vmload, vmperf, shaker (all get +)
14:23:42 <amaretskiy> vmworkload - good but too long
14:23:57 <ikhudoshyn> so by far +2 for vmworkload, +1 for vmload, +1 vmperf, +1 shaker))
14:23:57 <rvasilets> crossload
14:24:19 <ikhudoshyn> rvasilets: pls elaborate
14:24:28 <amaretskiy> vmio ?
14:24:33 <rvasilets> -1 for shaker and vmperf
14:24:41 <ikhudoshyn> is it really 'cross'
14:24:52 <ikhudoshyn> is it really only for 'io'
14:24:53 <rvasilets> +1 for vmload and crossload
14:25:30 <rvasilets> the idea with crossload is similar as in crosstraining term
14:25:34 <ikhudoshyn> so we got +2 for vmworkload and +2 for vmload
14:25:38 <amaretskiy> andreykurilin__: your vote..... ?
14:25:50 <ikhudoshyn> what we have to do is just ask redixin and boris-42
14:26:20 <ikhudoshyn> andreykurilin__: was for vmworkload
14:26:27 <andreykurilin__> :)
14:26:52 <rvasilets> chris also is absent
14:26:55 <andreykurilin__> amareskiy: please, start a mailing thread about this new entity
14:27:11 <rvasilets> it would be good tohave his vote too
14:27:15 <ikhudoshyn> ["sarcasm"] ?
14:27:21 <amaretskiy> andreykurilin__: ok, let it be mail list
14:27:25 <ikhudoshyn> andreykurilin__: ^^
14:27:32 <andreykurilin__> ikhudoshyn: no
14:27:37 <rvasilets> let it be, let it be...(song)
14:27:38 <ikhudoshyn> ok
14:27:55 <ikhudoshyn> letter 'b', letter 'b'... (song)
14:27:59 <andreykurilin__> it would be nice if community will know everything about our new stuff
14:29:36 <ikhudoshyn> agreed, let the mail-thread begins..
14:29:44 <andreykurilin__> ok, so there is one more topic
14:29:44 <ikhudoshyn> anything else to discuss?
14:30:05 <andreykurilin__> it relates to this previous one
14:30:34 <andreykurilin__> #topic Rally glossary
14:30:37 <andreykurilin__> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266389/
14:30:50 <andreykurilin__> we should start working on our glossary as soon as possible
14:31:03 <rvasilets> ok
14:31:08 <rvasilets> i will look at it
14:31:09 <amaretskiy> andreykurilin__:  I will submit a patch set soon
14:31:37 <andreykurilin__> rvasilets: it doesn't include a lot of terms yet
14:32:35 <andreykurilin__> ikhudoshyn: since you are familiar with new rally task format, please add some terms there
14:32:49 <ikhudoshyn> not really constructive, but usually Glossary is put closer to the end of TOC
14:32:57 <ikhudoshyn> andreykurilin__: will do
14:33:15 <rvasilets> and our native speaker chris also welcome there=)
14:33:24 <amaretskiy> andreykurilin__: ikhudoshyn: I will add terms in new patch, but need to discuss their definitions
14:33:38 <andreykurilin__> ok
14:33:55 <andreykurilin__> thanks
14:34:06 <andreykurilin__> that is all from my side
14:34:11 <andreykurilin__> anything else to discuss?
14:34:35 <rvasilets> nothing from me)
14:34:58 <andreykurilin__> ok
14:35:05 <andreykurilin__> #endmeeting