15:01:07 <chandankumar> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2016-07-13 15:01:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jul 13 15:01:08 2016 UTC. The chair is chandankumar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:08 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_-_2016-07-13' 15:01:09 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 13 15:01:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chandankumar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:11 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:13 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2016_07_13' 15:01:33 <chandankumar> Here is the RDO meeting agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting 15:01:38 <chandankumar> #topic Roll Call 15:01:42 <dmsimard> \o 15:01:44 <coolsvap> o/ 15:01:45 <chandankumar> \o/ 15:01:58 <rbowen> Alas, not here today, I have to head out to a meetup. 15:02:05 <chandankumar> #chair dmsimard coolsvap 15:02:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard 15:02:06 <openstack> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard 15:02:15 <chandankumar> rbowen, np :-) 15:02:28 <chandankumar> number80, apevec jruzicka meeting time 15:02:55 <jruzicka> \o/ 15:03:01 <chandankumar> #chair jruzicka 15:03:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard jruzicka 15:03:02 <openstack> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard jruzicka 15:03:19 <imcsk8> o/ 15:03:27 <chandankumar> #chair imcsk8 15:03:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka 15:03:32 <openstack> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka 15:03:38 <number80> o/ 15:03:45 <chandankumar> #chair number80 15:03:45 <openstack> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka number80 15:03:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka number80 15:03:46 <trown> o/ 15:03:50 <chandankumar> #chair trown 15:03:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka number80 trown 15:03:51 <openstack> Current chairs: chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka number80 trown 15:04:24 <chandankumar> number80, should i start with the first topic? 15:04:26 <adarazs> o/ 15:04:32 <chandankumar> #chair adarazs 15:04:32 <openstack> Current chairs: adarazs chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka number80 trown 15:04:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: adarazs chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard imcsk8 jruzicka number80 trown 15:04:38 <hrybacki> o/ 15:04:45 <chandankumar> #chair hrybacki 15:04:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: adarazs chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard hrybacki imcsk8 jruzicka number80 trown 15:04:46 <openstack> Current chairs: adarazs chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard hrybacki imcsk8 jruzicka number80 trown 15:04:48 <number80> chandankumar: yes 15:04:57 <jruzicka> chandankumar, go! 15:05:00 <chandankumar> #topic RDU2 network outage 15:05:04 <number80> (sorry, you have 10% of my attention, as I'm in a call) 15:05:24 <dmsimard> Last night around 11PM EST (whatever that is in UTC) the RDU network started experiencing network problems 15:05:30 <weshay> dmsimard, that is not my meeting :) 15:05:40 <dmsimard> The Raleigh servers/network were suffering high packet loss 15:06:09 <dmsimard> There's quite a lot of things hosted there, amongst which is a lot of the CentOS infrastructure like mirrors, buildlogs, ci.centos.org and so on 15:06:10 * number80 back 15:06:29 <dmsimard> Our DLRN server happens to be in that network and suffered some problems but thankfully, trunk.rdoproject.org was not affected because it is hosted elsewhere 15:06:52 <dmsimard> The problems are still ongoing, to a certain extent and the right people are working on it 15:07:00 <number80> (RDU is one of Red Hat main datacenter, not critical infrastructure ;-) ) 15:07:00 <dmsimard> There's no ETA for complete recovery right now 15:07:17 <dmsimard> that's it for that topic I think 15:07:28 <number80> thanks for the brief :) 15:07:31 <chandankumar> dmsimard, Thanks for the update :-) 15:07:32 <jruzicka> so what of RDO is currently affected? 15:07:46 <number80> ci.centos.org, DLRN 15:07:57 <number80> repositories 15:07:58 <trown> cloud.centos.org seems affected too 15:08:04 <dmsimard> jruzicka: the CI pipelines were backed up, new packages may have failed to build or not built entirely 15:08:17 <jruzicka> so most of things :) OK, thanks for info. 15:08:30 <number80> yup 15:08:46 <chandankumar> so moving to next topic 15:08:58 <chandankumar> #topic Integration testing distgit reviews (!) with in-flight DLRN repositories 15:09:09 <dmsimard> oh hai 15:09:28 <dmsimard> tl;dr there will soon be weirdo jobs that also run on top of DLRN-rpmbuild for distgit reviews 15:09:36 <trown> nice 15:09:39 <number80> question: will it be additional jobs or replacing existing jobs? 15:09:46 <dmsimard> I've written a small post on it here https://dmsimard.com/2016/07/13/improving-rdo-packaging-testing-coverage/ 15:10:13 <trown> I think it could replace existing job, since existing job just does install, and new job would cover that 15:10:14 <dmsimard> We've managed to make it so we are able to consume a DLRN repository from other jobs 15:10:29 <dmsimard> number80: the DLRN-rpmbuild job will stay 15:10:45 <dmsimard> but it will also have two children jobs, one weirdo puppet scenario and one weirdo packstack scenario 15:11:06 <number80> dmsimard: that's good, I can think of some cases, where we don't want to block package reviews on rpm-master 15:11:09 <trown> oh right we need the DLRN job to build the artifacts 15:11:10 <dmsimard> they will only be in the check pipeline and non-voting while we ramp up and test things so that they do not block if they do not work well 15:11:24 <dmsimard> also -- number80 reminded me 15:11:32 <dmsimard> they will only run on rpm-master against newton trunk 15:11:58 <number80> dmsimard: can't we configure this? 15:12:10 <dmsimard> because of the lazy branching that is still occurring, it'd be sort of complex to implement that logic (correctly) in the zuul layout to run the right jobs against the right projects *and* the right openstack release 15:12:26 <number80> dmsimard: ok, if we drop lazy branching, that could be fixed? 15:12:37 <jruzicka> that's doable 15:12:37 <dmsimard> once the lazy branching is gone, we can put a proper layout that rpm-master = newton, rpm-mitaka = mitaka and so on 15:12:38 <number80> if so, that's still a good deal for me 15:13:03 <jruzicka> I've hard "only for trunk" several times and it always expanded to other releases as well 15:13:05 <number80> DEAL :D 15:13:07 <dmsimard> other thing to note 15:13:19 <dmsimard> is that there is a generic builder to configure a DLRN repository "in gate" 15:13:44 <dmsimard> #link https://review.rdoproject.org/r/gitweb?p=config.git;a=blob;f=jobs/DLRN.yaml;h=d737c991e801b2ed955c9017d18681a98f50e575;hb=HEAD#l1 15:14:05 <dmsimard> so if you want to create a job to do something that would test that repository, you can use that builder and it'll "just work"(tm) 15:14:21 <dmsimard> like, I don't know, a job that would install the package and run the unit tests or whatever 15:14:22 <myoung> o/ 15:14:32 <chandankumar> #chair myoung 15:14:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: adarazs chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard hrybacki imcsk8 jruzicka myoung number80 trown 15:14:33 <openstack> Current chairs: adarazs chandankumar coolsvap dmsimard hrybacki imcsk8 jruzicka myoung number80 trown 15:14:46 <dmsimard> that's it for me 15:15:01 <dmsimard> #link https://dmsimard.com/2016/07/13/improving-rdo-packaging-testing-coverage/ 15:15:19 <chandankumar> dmsimard, i am not getting this line install the package and run the unit tests . 15:15:44 <dmsimard> chandankumar: I'm just saying that the DLRN gate repository builder is generic, it can be used outside of weirdo by itself 15:16:04 <dmsimard> chandankumar: so if someone else has a use for a DLRN repository in a gate job, they can use it 15:16:17 <dmsimard> I was just citing an example of what someone could do with it 15:16:50 <dmsimard> limit is your imagination 15:17:06 <chandankumar> got that, Thanks :-) 15:17:31 <chandankumar> any more queries related to this topic? 15:18:11 * chandankumar waits. 15:18:30 <number80> next? 15:18:38 <chandankumar> #topic Upcoming dates 15:18:54 <chandankumar> below is the some of important dates: 15:19:03 <chandankumar> #info OpenStack Summit CFP closes TODAY AT MIDNIGHT PACIFIC 15:19:33 <chandankumar> #info Newton M2 this week 15:19:52 <chandankumar> #info Newton M2 test day next week - July 21, 22 15:20:00 <chandankumar> https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/newton/milestone2/ 15:20:24 <chandankumar> Feel free to tweet or blog about RDO NEWTON M2 test day 15:20:34 <chandankumar> so that we can get better participation. 15:20:54 <chandankumar> </EOL> 15:21:47 <chandankumar> number80, we have finished all the topics. 15:22:07 <number80> then time for next week chair topic :) 15:22:10 <jruzicka> well, that escalated quickly 15:22:13 <number80> and open floor 15:22:24 <chandankumar> #topic chair for next meeting 15:22:38 <chandankumar> anyone wants to volunteer for next meeting? 15:22:41 <imcsk8> i can do it 15:22:53 <chandankumar> #action imcsk8 to chair for next meeting 15:23:04 <chandankumar> imcsk8, Thanks :-) 15:23:11 <imcsk8> chandankumar: np 15:23:18 <chandankumar> #topic Open Floor 15:23:53 <chandankumar> If i have missed any topic, or it is not added in the agenda, feel free to discuss. 15:24:02 <rdogerrit> Derek Higgins created DLRN: Remove .git when generating tarball name if present http://review.rdoproject.org/r/1658 15:24:08 <imcsk8> i want to submit a proposal for the summit but i always get reject, do you guys have any advice on how to structure it? 15:24:47 <number80> imcsk8: targetting CxO, and practical use-case 15:25:00 <dmsimard> imcsk8: there is a framework in place for red hat proposals, there are internal threads about it 15:25:18 <dmsimard> you're kind of last minute though 15:25:51 <imcsk8> dmsimard: it's on my radar but i'm not very motivated since i always get rejected :P 15:25:59 <number80> for this summit, I worked out w/ a security lab on a practical demonstrator on RDO to modelize secure cloud deployment 15:26:49 <number80> to give you an exampe 15:27:24 <imcsk8> oh ok 15:27:44 <imcsk8> i'll try to focus on use cases 15:28:18 <trown> imcsk8: I feel the same way btw... the number of talks submitted to number of talks accepted ratio is very small 15:28:36 <number80> hint: academics take ages to write/review proposals ... 15:29:45 <chandankumar> can we close the meeting now? 15:29:54 <trown|lunchnlear> hmm nick length limit on freenode? it is not a lunch and lear 15:30:15 * myoung chuckles 15:30:33 <dmsimard> that looks more like a typo than a nick limit :p 15:30:39 <dmsimard> you're outtypppewpewpepw is pretty long 15:30:47 <trown|lunchlearn> oh true :P 15:31:18 <number80> THE END :) 15:31:26 <chandankumar> #endmeeting