15:02:02 <amoralej> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2016-11-30
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15:02:12 <rbowen> Geez. Already?
15:02:17 <amoralej> could someone disable openstack bot?
15:02:18 <number80> DST
15:02:20 <rbowen> :D
15:02:24 <amoralej> thanks rbowen
15:02:30 <rbowen> o/
15:02:34 <chandankumar> \o/
15:02:37 * number80 is already saving light by living in the darkness
15:02:40 <amoralej> #topic roll call
15:02:43 <jpena> o/
15:02:46 <rbowen> o/ again
15:02:46 <dmsimard> ~o~
15:02:49 <dmellado> \o/
15:03:13 <amoralej> #chair rbowen number80 dmellado dmsimard jpena
15:03:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej dmellado dmsimard jpena number80 rbowen
15:03:14 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej dmellado dmsimard jpena number80 rbowen
15:03:54 <chandankumar> o/
15:03:57 <mengxd> o/
15:04:17 <mengxd> o/
15:04:22 <amoralej> #chair chandankumar mengxd
15:04:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena mengxd number80 rbowen
15:04:23 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena mengxd number80 rbowen
15:04:33 * apevec half present
15:04:50 <amoralej> #chair apevec
15:04:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena mengxd number80 rbowen
15:04:51 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena mengxd number80 rbowen
15:05:14 <amoralej> ok, let's start with fist topic
15:05:28 <amoralej> #topic Ocata1 testday tomorrow reality check
15:05:36 <amoralej> #info puppet4 was added since the CI promotion, tripleo and packstack got fixes but now we need new promotion today!
15:05:48 <amoralej> packstack fix is merged and built in dlrn
15:05:57 <jruzicka> o/
15:06:11 <amoralej> test for updated passlib is almost finished in mitaka
15:06:17 <amoralej> #chair jruzicka
15:06:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena jruzicka mengxd number80 rbowen
15:06:18 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena jruzicka mengxd number80 rbowen
15:06:54 <amoralej> so we should be able to tag passlib in -testing and running promotion pipeline
15:07:14 <jpena> that should fix p-o-i as well, unless there's anything else
15:07:33 <amoralej> yes, that should all jobs
15:07:51 <amoralej> but we'll need some luck to not face any infra error
15:08:02 <rbowen> So, do we expect another promotion today, then?
15:08:10 <amoralej> or other new problems
15:08:17 <amoralej> hopefully rbowen
15:08:30 <amoralej> we need it to have a sane repo for tomorrow
15:08:57 <amoralej> current current-passed-ci does not work with the deps repo after puppet4 so...
15:09:35 <amoralej> one of the mitaka p-o-i jobs have failed one tempest test but it's unrelated to passlib
15:09:50 <amoralej> let's see the last one
15:10:07 <amoralej> but we need to tag new dep asap
15:10:16 <number80> which is?
15:10:20 <rdogerrit> Ricardo Noriega created openstack/networking-bgpvpn-distgit: Fixing ownership of config files  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/3940
15:10:49 <amoralej> http://cbs.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=14924
15:11:13 <amoralej> tagged already
15:11:20 <amoralej> in -testing
15:11:34 <amoralej> oops, i thought we were waiting for mitaka results
15:11:46 <rdobot> [sensu] NEW: master.monitoring.rdoproject.org - check-delorean-master-head-current @ http://tinyurl.com/hcnq3ll |#| Build failure on centos7-master-head/current: oslo.db, oslo.log, murano-dashboard: http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-master-head/report.html
15:12:19 <amoralej> ok, so next run of promotion will pick it up
15:13:12 <amoralej> so, about testing day, i think the only thing we can do is to keep an eye on master promotion jobs and react fast if we get some new obstacle
15:13:15 <number80> ack
15:13:19 <rbowen> +1
15:13:29 <amoralej> anything else from this side
15:13:44 <amoralej> i added instructions for users that want to test using CentOS 7.3 from CR
15:13:50 <rbowen> Thanks for that. :-)
15:13:51 <amoralej> in case anyone is interested
15:14:43 <amoralej> so, moving to next topic
15:15:01 <amoralej> #topic RDO at FOSDEM
15:15:12 <amoralej> #info Will be part of CentOS dojo, at IBM facility out by the UN. Details still to be determined, on centos-promo mailing list
15:15:15 <rbowen> We are planning to participate in the CentOS dojo on february 3rd, the day before FOSDEMin in Brussels.
15:15:18 <rbowen> Same location as last year.
15:15:20 <amoralej> #info     Call for RDO content is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fosdem-dojo-2017
15:15:35 <rbowen> Planning is, as with all things FOSDEM, a little last-minute
15:15:43 <rbowen> However, if you expect to be there, consider submitting a talk.
15:16:05 <rbowen> Unlike last year, this won't be RDO-focused, but will be more about how we play in the CentOS ecosystem, and how people can participate in CentOS.
15:16:17 <rbowen> Which is not much different from what we did last year, but a slightly different focus.
15:16:43 <rbowen> Further discussion of the event will happen on the centos-promo mailing list.
15:16:54 <rbowen> /EOL
15:17:19 <rbowen> Anyone other than number80 planning to be there?
15:17:43 <misc> at fosdem, maybe me
15:17:51 <misc> well, at fosdem, me, but at the dojo, not sure
15:18:25 <rdogerrit> Ricardo Noriega proposed openstack/networking-bgpvpn-distgit: Fixing ownership of config files  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/3940
15:18:27 <misc> (the location was inconvenient enough to make me stay at home, especially after devconf)
15:18:30 <rbowen> My impression has been that due to the new OpenStack Summit schedule, fewer people will be able to travel to FOSDEM. Hoping I'm mistaken on that.
15:19:15 <number80> well, I'm just going to FOSDEM like every year, no big surprise
15:19:19 <dmsimard> Doesn't affect me, I wouldn't have gone either way :(
15:19:36 <jschlueter> o/
15:19:36 <amoralej> i'm not sure yet
15:19:37 <number80> BeerGium is an awesome country
15:19:42 <amoralej> #chair jschlueter
15:19:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena jruzicka jschlueter mengxd number80 rbowen
15:19:44 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena jruzicka jschlueter mengxd number80 rbowen
15:19:55 <rbowen> ok, on to the next thing. Nothing more to say here. :-)
15:20:36 <mengxd> so will rdo meetup be organized in boston summit?
15:20:46 <rbowen> That's my plan, yes.
15:20:53 <mengxd> ok, good to know.
15:20:59 <rbowen> Have to get past FOSDEM first. :-) But, yes.
15:21:09 <rbowen> I hope to do something with Ceph again - that worked out really well.
15:21:14 <rbowen> But perhaps in a quieter location.
15:21:26 <rbowen> Or somewhere where the speaking area is more separated from the party area. :-)
15:21:29 <mengxd> ack
15:21:46 <mengxd> too noisy to concentrate
15:21:50 <rbowen> Boston is WAY more expensive than Barcelona, though, so we'll see what we can find.
15:23:12 <rbowen> Did we lose amoralej?
15:23:17 <amoralej> #topic     Looking for people to identify themselves as willing to speak on RDO topics - https://www.rdoproject.org/community/speakers/
15:23:21 <rbowen> oh. :-)
15:23:27 <bkero> FOSDEM++
15:23:30 <amoralej> :)
15:23:38 <rbowen> So, I'm looking for some help identifying speakers willing to do meetups.
15:23:51 <rbowen> I get contacted by meetup organizers and try to connect them with local speakers.
15:24:00 <rbowen> I can usually help with (local) travel, and can send swag.
15:24:09 <rbowen> But I can no longer keep in my mind who is where.
15:24:14 <bkero> rbowen: I can do west coast things
15:24:20 <mengxd> so are you asking for volunteers or you asking for help to recommend speakers?
15:24:24 <dmsimard> rbowen: oh yeah btw for some reasons the RDO stickers were not popular at all (or swag at all) at OpenStack Canada
15:24:27 <rbowen> So, if you want to be on that list, please add your name for https://www.rdoproject.org/community/speakers/
15:24:38 <rdogerrit> Attila Darazs created config: Fix tripleo-quickstart-deploy job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/3941
15:24:39 <rbowen> mengxd: Both, I guess.
15:24:40 <dmsimard> rbowen: like, they had pens and stickers and beer holders and stuff and almost nothing got picked up
15:24:45 <rbowen> Bummer.
15:24:47 <dmsimard> It was weird
15:24:51 <rbowen> Well, bring them to the next thing, I guess.
15:24:55 <dmsimard> yeah.
15:25:05 <dmsimard> I'll bring some to the Montreal office :P
15:25:17 <dmellado> rbowen: will do ;)
15:25:24 <trown> whoops... slipped the time
15:25:26 <rbowen> Thanks. That's all.
15:25:26 <trown> o/
15:25:35 <amoralej> i added myself to OpenStack foundation speakers bureau, you prefer having the list in rdoproject.org rbowen?
15:25:43 <amoralej> #chair trown
15:25:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena jruzicka jschlueter mengxd number80 rbowen trown
15:25:44 <openstack> Current chairs: amoralej apevec chandankumar dmellado dmsimard jpena jruzicka jschlueter mengxd number80 rbowen trown
15:26:05 <dmsimard> rbowen: yeah I'm not warm to the idea of duplicating the list on rdoproject.org if I can be found with the "rdo" query on upstream speaker bureau
15:26:24 <rbowen> Well, ok, that's fair. I guess maybe people weren't aware of the upstream one.
15:26:36 <dmellado> dmsimard: maybe we can just add 'rdo' as a label there
15:26:46 <amoralej> that's what i did
15:26:51 <rbowen> ok.
15:26:57 * dmellado will add it later too
15:26:59 <dmsimard> dmellado: that's what I did
15:27:08 <dmsimard> dmellado: it needs to be in your areas of expertise
15:27:13 <dmsimard> one of five :P
15:27:21 <dmellado> heh xD
15:27:52 <rbowen> ok, thanks for the input. I'll do that, then.
15:27:52 <amoralej> ok
15:27:56 <jschlueter> rbowen: is there a good place to find local meetups? (Michigan, USA)
15:28:24 <rbowen> jschlueter: There's meetup.com and every week I post a list of OpenStack meetups to rdo-list
15:28:35 <dmsimard> Some events also tend to be on eventbrite
15:28:39 <rbowen> Usually on Monday morning.
15:28:47 <rbowen> Yeah, I haven't started looking at eventbrite yet. I should do that.
15:28:59 <rbowen> Also there's the OpenStack Days events that are posted on openstack.org
15:29:24 <dmellado> rbowen: how about the PTG, will there be any rdo presence there in the end?
15:29:51 <dmsimard> probably in spirit but not with a dedicated room or anything
15:29:59 <dmsimard> I mean even tripleo could hardly get a room (if it did get one)
15:30:05 <rbowen> I don't know for sure yet. I haven't looked very much at the details of that event.
15:30:13 <rbowen> But getting an actual room, no, probably not.
15:30:39 <rbowen> We might could do a small evening drinks/snacks event, if there's enough interest.
15:31:16 <amoralej> i think we can move on to open floor
15:31:24 <amoralej> #topic open floor
15:31:52 <amoralej> any topic someone wants to arise?
15:31:53 * dmellado was thinking about rdo folks having a meeting on an open floor on Atlanta, needs to get some rest
15:31:55 <dmellado> xD
15:32:50 <mengxd> for altarch bootstrap, do we have any updates?
15:34:14 <amoralej> number80 ^
15:35:23 <amoralej> seems number80 is not around now
15:35:51 <amoralej> looking at items in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-survey-answers
15:36:18 <amoralej> i think there is a chance to improve communication about what's new in RDO
15:36:39 <number80> ?
15:36:45 <amoralej> i.e., magnum is mentioned several times, and now that we even have support in packstack
15:36:57 <number80> well, it's blocked for now (about altarch)
15:36:58 <amoralej> people seems not the be aware that there is magnum already in RDO
15:37:03 <dmsimard> amoralej: have to be careful about the message
15:37:04 <apevec> mengxd, I think we are waiting for 7.3 push
15:37:10 <dmsimard> amoralej: RDO != packstack != tripleo
15:37:22 <dmsimard> There's a lot of things in RDO that are in either or neither
15:37:30 <apevec> dmsimard, yeah, that's recurring on rdo-list, recently
15:37:38 <amoralej> yes, that's why users should be able to know
15:37:45 <dmsimard> I could find that ML post I did a while back about branding issues :)
15:37:47 <amoralej> what's the status of each service
15:38:00 <apevec> I tried to steer discussion but it just reverts back to rdo == packstack == tripleo ...
15:38:00 <rbowen> How can we do a better job of communicating what is in which? We have a "what's in RDO" page but it hasn't been udpated in a while.
15:38:19 <mengxd> ok, but still be cautious because in fact quite a percentage of users are deploying RDO using Packstack.
15:38:23 <dmsimard> Maybe a community maintained matrix of what is supported where ?
15:38:46 <dmsimard> i.e, magnum: [X] RDO [X] Packstack [ ] TripleO
15:38:53 <dmsimard> In a table format or something, I don't know
15:38:57 <rbowen> I can get something started on the website, based on the latest version of what we have up there now.
15:38:58 <apevec> mengxd, yep, and that's fine for proof of concept / demo
15:39:36 <mengxd> i think a table to show what is supported in each deployment tooling will help.
15:39:58 <dmsimard> Could add Kolla in there. OpenStack-Ansible are cheating so not included :p
15:40:39 <amoralej> sometimes status dependes on the release
15:40:45 <mengxd> in coata summit, it sounds like openstack-ansible will work towards support on centos/rhel, is that still valid?
15:40:51 <mengxd> ocata
15:40:57 <amoralej> magnum is available in RDO since newton iirc, but in packstack only in ocata, i.e.
15:41:18 <rbowen> So the table can contain versions, rather than just yes/no ?
15:41:19 <dmsimard> mengxd: they are working on CentOS/RDO support but they are only using RDO for dependencies. They still install OpenStack from source in lxc containers.
15:41:34 <amoralej> i'd say so rbowen
15:41:36 <apevec> why lxc ?
15:41:44 <apevec> but nm, off topic...
15:41:45 <dmsimard> apevec: I don't know, they've always used lxc since inception
15:42:03 <mengxd> that is how it worked in ubuntu too
15:42:06 <rdogerrit> Sven Anderson created rdoinfo: Add puppet-ec2api  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/3942
15:44:23 <jpena> amoralej, don't forget the chair for the next meeting ;)
15:44:30 <dmsimard> anything else for open floor ?
15:45:01 <amoralej> #topic chair for next meeting
15:45:13 <amoralej> volunteers?
15:45:27 <trown> I can chair next week
15:45:45 <amoralej> #info trown will chair next week
15:46:05 <chandankumar> amoralej: I will chair next to next week
15:46:05 <amoralej> ok, thanks for joining
15:46:29 <amoralej> i'm giving you 15 minutes back :)
15:46:37 <apevec> 14
15:46:39 <apevec> :)
15:46:42 <number80> lol
15:46:42 <apevec> thanks amoralej !
15:46:46 <amoralej> #endmeeting