15:01:49 <ykarel> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2019-07-24
15:01:50 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 24 15:01:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ykarel. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:01:53 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2019_07_24'
15:02:31 <ykarel> Agenda is empty, please add if any to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting
15:02:47 <ykarel> #topic roll call
15:03:45 <PagliaccisCloud> o/
15:04:28 <PagliaccisCloud> i guess a good topic for open floor is how to get more meeting participants?
15:04:42 <ykarel> #chair PagliaccisCloud
15:04:43 <openstack> Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud ykarel
15:05:28 <ykarel> atleast few people are out in meeting for this week
15:07:17 <rdogerrit> Gabriele Cerami proposed rdo-jobs master: add buildimage rhel8 check jobs  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21535
15:08:50 <sshnaidm> ykarel, marios do you remember if it's right? https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/21578/
15:10:05 <ykarel> sshnaidm, no idea, never dealt with those variables
15:10:23 <sfbender> Merged rdopkg master: README: update for 1.0  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/15956
15:10:47 <sshnaidm> I think I'm right
15:10:52 <sshnaidm> as always
15:11:21 <ykarel> yes possibly :)
15:11:48 <ykarel> #topic open floor
15:12:35 <rdogerrit> Merged config master: Fix filename and path to DIB local image  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21578
15:12:55 <rdogerrit> Gabriele Cerami proposed rdo-jobs master: add buildimage rhel8 check jobs  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21535
15:15:02 <rdogerrit> Gabriele Cerami created config master: Tripleo: add triggers for 3rd party build images jobs  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21579
15:16:19 <ykarel> PagliaccisCloud, do you have something to point
15:17:36 <ykarel> it's mostly silent today as people are out
15:17:44 <PagliaccisCloud> Um... voting is open for OpenStack Summit Shanghai (I think)? If anyone has a few minutes I'd appreciate a vote for my presentation
15:18:26 <PagliaccisCloud> https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/vote-for-speakers/#/24260
15:19:29 <ykarel> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/vote-for-speakers/#/24260
15:19:41 * ykarel will check
15:19:45 <PagliaccisCloud> Also if anyone wants to contribute anything to the talk (should it make it through voting) or would like for me to add a specific project just email me tribecca [at] tribecc [dot] us
15:24:19 <ykarel> #topic volunteer for next meeting
15:25:35 <PagliaccisCloud> i'll do it \o
15:26:39 <ohsnap> can anyone recommend a good book for learning openstack from the ground up? it seems like no matter how many videos i watch or how many times i go over the documentation i feel like i just dont feel comfortable standing up a prod environment
15:27:21 <ohsnap> like if/when something breaks i dont even know where to begin tshooting
15:27:41 <PagliaccisCloud> ohsnap: OpenStack for Architects is a good one https://www.amazon.com/Openstack-Architects-Michael-Solberg-ebook/dp/B017XSFKFQ
15:27:53 <ohsnap> cool thanks :)
15:28:01 <ykarel> #action PagliaccisCloud to chair next meeting
15:28:37 <PagliaccisCloud> you might also want to reach out to spotz on IRC. She taught OpenStack for a couple of years & might have some courses to recommend that cover troubleshooting
15:29:07 <spotz> PagliaccisCloud: let me read:)
15:29:16 <PagliaccisCloud> oh hai! :D
15:30:33 <spotz> ohsnap: Let me see if I've got anything really troubleshooting related. I used to pick up things at Summit so there might be something along those lines. Also there's an openstack-operators channel
15:31:52 <spotz> ohsnap: Is there any area in particular you're having an issue?
15:36:02 <openstackgerrit> Merged x/packstack master: Remove legacy ram/disk/core filter  https://review.opendev.org/672499
15:37:24 <rdogerrit> Sorin Sbarnea (zbr) proposed config master: WIP: Make ovb-manage install_openstack_deps distro aware  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/21463
15:38:49 <ohsnap> spotz: well ive deployed it a few times over the last few releases usually using RDO / packstack / tripleo but i feel like when using puppet and ansible i miss out on really understanding how all of the different pieces fit together
15:39:05 <ohsnap> but then ive heard people say in talks, and read peoples guides that say 'never try to deploy openstack by hand'
15:39:38 <ohsnap> im like.. well... if i don't do it manually a few times i feel like im always missing big chunks of my understanding
15:39:58 <PagliaccisCloud> i disagree w/ that last statement ohsnap. every admin worth their salt should go through manual deployment at least once to understand how all of the different components fit together
15:40:32 <PagliaccisCloud> in fact i'd argue that that's where you learn a good 75% of troubleshooting
15:41:23 <spotz> ohsnap: Yeah my most popular courses were the build by hand ones. And as PagliaccisCloud said you learn the most by troubleshooting
15:42:24 <spotz> Maybe start with an install by hand not using a deployer, get a feel for the networking and then choose the best installer that meets your needs. The different deployment projects are getting closer and closer in methodology
15:43:44 * ykarel agree with spotz
15:44:24 <spotz> Documentation is sooo much better then the first installation I ever did:)
15:50:14 <ykarel> ok i think we can close, the discussion can go outside of meeting. Thanks all
15:50:29 <ohsnap> thanks all, will definitely give a manual deployment a shot. looking to stand up an env that i can do a lot of VDI testing with vmware/xen/qemu. looking to build out a datacenter for our clients. if you think of any good courses/books or even consultants/providers please pm me any info that i can present to my boss
15:51:08 <ohsnap> we're getting all of the power situated in our new building and have ordered a bunch of racks and gear so ill need to have something going in the next few months
15:53:05 <ykarel> #endmeeting