14:01:22 #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2021-08-11 14:01:22 Meeting started Wed Aug 11 14:01:22 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jcapitao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:22 The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2021_08_11' 14:01:28 #topic roll call 14:01:48 weshay|ruck: marios|ruck - pinging in case you want to join the discussions 14:01:51 o/ 14:02:01 #chair spotz 14:02:01 Current chairs: jcapitao spotz 14:02:06 hola 14:02:35 amoralej on PTO, and ykarel is not around 14:02:41 o/ 14:03:01 #chair apevec 14:03:01 Current chairs: apevec jcapitao spotz 14:06:12 o/ 14:06:32 apevec: You about? 14:06:36 NM:) 14:06:50 #chair marios|ruck 14:06:50 Current chairs: apevec jcapitao marios|ruck spotz 14:07:01 let's start with first topic 14:07:12 #topic RDO Xena and release it on CS8 - plan B 14:07:48 fun fun 14:07:56 I guess spotz you added it ? 14:08:03 #chair weshay|ruck 14:08:03 Current chairs: apevec jcapitao marios|ruck spotz weshay|ruck 14:08:22 I asked about it 14:09:36 so we won't go with plan A ? 14:09:47 so current CS9 status is that most likely repos will not be ready this month or so 14:10:05 and we'll have to publish RDO X with CS8 14:10:20 then add CS9 later when it's available 14:10:57 I don't think we have alternative so this is more public record 14:11:06 I added it for apevec:) 14:11:09 crystal ball for tripleo.. would be that tripleo skips xena.. releases yoga w/ cs9 14:11:10 please summarize for minutes 14:11:18 * apevec in other call in || 14:11:35 fair enough 14:11:45 crystal balls don't always work.. marios|ruck thoughts on that prediction? 14:11:49 And yeah a little late was fine but we might be 2 months late if we wait 14:12:10 to clarify what weshay|ruck said depends if we merge https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tripleo-specs/+/801512 and decide to go ahead with it for xena 14:12:13 cutting it a bit close... 14:12:14 ;) 14:12:22 but as weshay|ruck said, we haven't had any big pushback yet 14:12:27 mostly +2 so that is likely to happen 14:13:08 (end of file) 14:16:11 I haven't heard anyoone against it 14:16:26 ok, when will be the final decision (i.e merged or abandoned) ? 14:16:27 if Xena is released on CS8 first and then on CS9 later, are both release supported for long term ? 14:16:50 previously we migrate from c7 to c8, train was a kind of "transition" release which is supported on both c7 and c8 14:16:52 jcapitao: "soon" i think there are some final discussions happening now latest comments on that spec 14:17:07 jcapitao: maybe we can make a decision at next week irc meeting on tuesday 14:18:27 marios|ruck: ok good 14:19:02 tkajinam, plan A was: X on CS9, then "backport" CS9 to W and have W as transition RDO release 14:19:12 ah ok 14:19:37 we'll see about transition release, maybe both X and W will be both CS8/9 14:19:54 I agree that's plan A but if we take plan B then both X and W will be transition releases 14:19:58 tkajinam: I cann't speak for tripleoo team but when we've done it for OSA yes the backport was supported 14:20:24 If y'all need me to attend on Tuesday throw me an invite 14:20:34 OOh tripleo meeting nnnever mind I have it:) 14:21:44 I was curious of supported release + os combination in rdo mainly because we need corresponding jobs in puppet. I'll watch the discussion to see which plan (A/B) is likely to happen 14:21:54 sorry for interrupts 14:22:12 Nope we all do it:) Reading and typing takes time! 14:22:13 spotz: ack yes i meant tripleo irc meeting next tue 14:22:20 #chair tkajinam 14:22:20 Current chairs: apevec jcapitao marios|ruck spotz tkajinam weshay|ruck 14:23:11 #info RDO Xena will be first released on CS8 14:23:31 #info RDO Xena will be released on CS9 later when it's available 14:23:36 weshay|ruck and marios|ruck - Are you woorried about any perception problems if TripleO skips Xena? 14:28:32 yes of course this is a concern spotz 14:28:53 spotz: mentioned in the spec the main point is that 'tripleo doesn't support all openstack releases' 14:29:17 spotz: and some mitigation is considered around using tags to signal which versions of the tripleo repos are compatible with the branch when tripleo has not created that branch in their repo 14:30:31 marios|ruck: Ok, I know y'all have a plan. Just been dealing with a lot of the usual perception issues with OpenStack lately so wanted to confirm 14:31:24 spotz: to be clear, even if we don't create a branch we will always continually test master with our ci 14:31:39 spotz: ack 14:31:52 Thanks 14:32:03 let's see how it goes 14:32:27 we can switch to next topic 14:32:47 #topic RDO Trunk repos for centos-[queens|rocky|stein] stopped 14:33:21 as mentioned in last meetings, we planned to stop trunk repos for Queens, Rocky and Stein releases 14:33:50 we removed the DLRN workers 14:34:00 #link https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/c/software-factory/sf-infra/+/22460 14:37:56 does it mean we can drop all open patches for those branches? 14:41:40 tosky: yes those patches can be dropped 14:42:07 thanks! 14:43:41 next topic 14:43:42 #topic chair for next week 14:43:57 any volunteer ? 14:44:49 It's you or me unless we volunteer ykarel:) 14:45:15 I shoould be able to do it 14:45:51 in fact ykarel told me a couple hours back he could propose himself if no volunteer :) 14:46:13 Woot! 14:46:31 #action ykarel to chair next week 14:46:45 I'll ping him tomorrow ;) 14:47:02 #topic Open floor 14:47:27 if you want to bring something out of topic 14:53:23 vim . 14:55:45 hehe ok II think it's safe to endmeeting:) 14:55:52 yes :) 14:56:04 thank you all for joining ! 14:56:07 #endmeeting