14:01:31 <jcapitao> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2021-09-22
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14:03:18 <jcapitao> #topic roll call
14:03:42 <jcapitao> amoralej spotz around ?
14:03:51 <amoralej> o/
14:04:20 <jcapitao> #chair amoralej
14:04:20 <opendevmeet> Current chairs: amoralej jcapitao
14:07:05 <spotz> o/
14:07:12 <jcapitao> #chair spotz
14:07:12 <opendevmeet> Current chairs: amoralej jcapitao spotz
14:07:25 <jcapitao> let's start with first topic
14:07:30 <jcapitao> #topic Status of Xena GA Preparation
14:07:39 <jcapitao> #link https://trello.com/c/ofx2cKjc/760-xena-release-preparation
14:07:48 <jcapitao> #link https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:xena-branching
14:08:10 <jcapitao> #info RC1 bits are almost built (puppet modules and some tempest projects still missing though)
14:08:30 <jcapitao> so we are waiting for puppet RC1s to be released
14:08:48 <jcapitao> should be coming soon as per https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522prep-release-xena-rc1%2522+(status:open+OR+status:merged)
14:09:28 <jcapitao> I've already pined non-os projects but should have wait a little bit I guess
14:09:45 <spotz> How longed froom merged until we see it?
14:09:48 <amoralej> jcapitao, let's see what tripleo and puppet team thinks
14:10:05 <amoralej> it's probably fine to pin now
14:10:17 <rdogerrit> Alfredo Moralejo created gating_scripts master: Fix dep-validate for the actual tag names for CS9  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/gating_scripts/+/35731
14:11:02 <jcapitao> spotz: currently there is no open patch for puppet RC1s
14:11:09 <jcapitao> just one clarification for Ceph release
14:11:12 <jcapitao> https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdo-infra/ansible-role-weirdo-puppet-openstack/+/35706
14:11:19 <spotz> ok
14:11:28 <jcapitao> should we go w/ Pacific or Octopus ?
14:13:03 <amoralej> mmm
14:13:09 <amoralej> probably pacific, i'd say
14:14:00 <amoralej> there is also pacific for cs8
14:14:01 <amoralej> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/storage/x86_64/ceph-pacific/
14:14:02 <spotz> Yeah reading the comments on that, if Pacific is available I'm not sure there's any value for going Octopus
14:14:09 <amoralej> so i think we should try to go with it
14:15:18 <spotz> +1
14:15:43 <jcapitao> ok let's go and see w/ Pacific
14:16:05 <spotz> It'll also mean one less thing to worry aboout with CS9
14:16:41 <amoralej> yep
14:16:42 <jcapitao> correct
14:18:07 <jcapitao> so no blocker atm for Xena preparation
14:18:16 <spotz> Nice
14:18:18 <jcapitao> any questions ?
14:18:39 <spotz> Sounds like we're in a good place now that we're not trying for CS9
14:18:47 <amoralej> jcapitao, https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-repos/blob/854ca64d47617666e15e32b71863d90025d61754/plugins/module_utils/tripleo_repos/main.py#L485
14:18:56 <amoralej> so, it seems that tripleo switched to pacific time ago
14:18:59 <amoralej> so, looks safe
14:19:08 <amoralej> let's see if puppet-ceph handles it fine
14:19:28 <jcapitao> ah right, it's default there
14:19:30 <amoralej> wrt my question about tripleo for xena
14:19:38 <amoralej> in openstack-discuss, i mean
14:19:47 <amoralej> i receive a private reply
14:20:03 <amoralej> tripleo ptl will contact us directly with the info i requested
14:20:10 <amoralej> the list of commits/tags
14:20:16 <amoralej> to be included in Xena
14:20:54 <spotz> Sounds good, In OSA we have a file with all the commit hashes for that release. We going to doo something similar
14:20:56 <spotz> ?
14:21:50 <amoralej> looks like so
14:22:11 <amoralej> but i didn't get any "implementation details"
14:22:53 <spotz> Kind of from last weeks discussion, that does in theory allow someone to update to a newer commit if needed for a bug fix without changing anything else. So that would be a good thing
14:23:06 <jcapitao> you mean how they get the list ?
14:23:21 <jcapitao> s/get/build/
14:23:23 <amoralej> what i know is
14:23:38 <amoralej> they will build the list of validated commits from some CI job
14:23:41 <spotz> Well how the deployment knows what commits to pull in during the git clone
14:23:44 <amoralej> from there, they will request new tags
14:23:49 <amoralej> and we will build those tags
14:24:06 <amoralej> they will put that list in some repo or something, dunno that
14:24:37 <jcapitao> but can't we do like non-openstack puppet project ?
14:24:42 <amoralej> spotz, wrt " that does in theory allow someone to update to a newer commit if needed for a bug fix without changing anything else. So that would be a good thing"
14:24:48 <amoralej> i'd say not
14:25:05 <amoralej> as they will stop testing new commits against xena releases
14:25:06 <jcapitao> amoralej: pinning project, as you proposed last week
14:25:13 <spotz> Ok
14:25:18 <amoralej> after xena ga
14:25:22 <amoralej> or shortly after xena ga
14:25:45 <amoralej> jcapitao, yes, we will pin as we do for branchless projects
14:28:59 <jcapitao> ok, so we can propose ooo team this implementation process (as they know our pinning mechanism)
14:29:27 <jcapitao> and take advantage of Gerrit UI/UX
14:29:50 <spotz> Are there potentially any other projects we work with that miight go this route? Is it worth documenting things?
14:30:06 <amoralej> let's see what they provide us and if we can provide some easy integration between it and our rdoinfo workflow
14:30:30 <amoralej> spotz, well, actually it's something similar to other branchless projects
14:30:33 <amoralej> i.e. tempest
14:30:45 <jcapitao> ok works for me
14:31:00 <amoralej> but this is a bit more complex in the sense that are multiple repos
14:31:22 <amoralej> and tempest has commitment to support multiple releases from the master branch
14:31:24 <spotz> I'm just wondering if we doc as we work through this we'll save ourselves some time later
14:32:01 <amoralej> tbh, i think this will be a ad-hoc thing for tripleo
14:32:55 <amoralej> once we have more details about it, we can (should) document it
14:34:46 <spotz> Ok sounds good, and yeah I'm not envisioning others but still best to be safe then sorry:)
14:35:01 <jcapitao> ok so let's wait for ooo team proposition
14:35:23 <jcapitao> let's move on to next topic
14:35:29 <jcapitao> #topic Status of CentOS Stream 9
14:36:15 <amoralej> #info bootstrap process for RDO-Trunk centos9-master is running
14:36:19 <amoralej> #link https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos9-master/report.html
14:36:50 <amoralej> bootstrap is progressing well
14:37:13 <amoralej> main known blocker right now is rabbitmq-server
14:37:37 <amoralej> our friends maintaining rabbitmq are working to get it built
14:37:50 <jcapitao> with the openssl3 issue ?
14:38:37 <amoralej> yes
14:38:37 <amoralej> #link https://github.com/erlang/otp/issues/4577
14:38:37 <amoralej> that's current issue
14:38:46 <spotz> Poor Rabbit
14:38:54 <amoralej> we still have the rabbitmq-server packages we built with openssl 1.1.1 which runs with openssl3 compat package
14:39:01 <amoralej> but they need to build it with openssl3
14:39:03 <amoralej> yep :)
14:39:08 <amoralej> poor rabbit
14:39:37 <amoralej> we got all openvswitch and ovn packages built
14:39:41 <amoralej> in nfv sig
14:39:44 <amoralej> so we are fine in that side
14:39:57 <amoralej> and opstools and storage are also working on it too
14:40:01 <amoralej> i'd say ceph is done
14:40:06 <amoralej> and opstools in its way
14:41:06 <jcapitao> well done
14:41:18 <jcapitao> big effort in last couple of weeks
14:41:29 <jcapitao> from SIGs
14:41:32 <amoralej> yep
14:41:37 <amoralej> a lot of activity around
14:41:39 <amoralej> in sigs
14:42:00 <spotz> We need to remember to meet in October:)
14:42:14 <amoralej> yes... :(
14:42:21 <amoralej> sorry for missing last one
14:44:13 <amoralej> i think that's it wr this topic
14:44:31 <jcapitao> when is it in October ?
14:45:26 <spotz> 2 weeks? 10/7
14:45:45 <amoralej> first thursday
14:47:01 <jcapitao> ok noted
14:47:07 <jcapitao> #topic Chair for next week
14:47:16 <jcapitao> who's in ?
14:49:23 <spotz> I'll be in Seattle for Open Source Summit so I knoow not me:)
14:49:42 <jcapitao> cool, enjoy !
14:50:35 <amoralej> ok, i can take it
14:51:02 <jcapitao> #topic amoralej Chair for next week
14:51:07 <jcapitao> thank you
14:51:21 <jcapitao> #topic Open floor
14:51:41 <spotz> Xena SWAG vote closes this Friday, sent a correctioon out:)
14:53:28 <spotz> Still working on Social ideas:(
14:53:53 <jcapitao> #info remember to vote Xena Contributor Swag Poll
14:53:58 <spotz> :)
14:54:02 <jcapitao> #link https://doodle.com/poll/i9ynge8yrgf6axd6?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link
14:54:36 <spotz> I also just tweeted it extra o and all and put it on our facebook page where I could edit out the extra o:)
14:55:33 <spotz> Travel wallet now in the lead!:)
14:56:29 <spotz> That's all I got, online pictionary so far the best possible for the social FYI. I thought aboyt Name that Tune but there doesn't seem to be a site that does it for you
14:58:07 <amoralej> what's name that tune?
14:58:32 <amoralej> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_That_Tune
14:58:35 <jcapitao> guess the music title/artist ?
14:58:41 <amoralej> guess so
14:59:48 <amoralej> i guess there will be no spanish songs... :)
14:59:49 <spotz> Yeah, so you play notes and you buzz in. Quicker the better but you have to guess right or you continue playing notes and new folks buzzing in
15:00:10 <spotz> But as I can't find a site I think that one's out:)
15:00:21 <amoralej> ok
15:01:09 <amoralej> online pictionary looks funny
15:01:13 <spotz> Y'all said no group Yoga so...:)
15:01:42 <jcapitao> :D
15:01:57 <amoralej> :D
15:02:48 <jcapitao> I'm going to close the meeting
15:02:49 <spotz> You have to admit it was the perfect Social idea for this PTG:)
15:02:57 <spotz> Yep good call!
15:02:59 <amoralej> yes :)
15:03:27 <jcapitao> #endmeeting