14:01:41 <jcapitao[m]> #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2023-02-22
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14:01:47 <jcapitao[m]> it's meeting time !
14:01:59 <jcapitao[m]> #topic roll call
14:02:02 <spotz> o/
14:02:13 <jcapitao[m]> who's there ?
14:02:16 <karolinku[m]> o/
14:02:28 <jcapitao[m]> #chair spotz karolinku
14:02:28 <opendevmeet> Warning: Nick not in channel: karolinku
14:02:28 <opendevmeet> Current chairs: jcapitao[m] karolinku spotz
14:02:52 <amoralej> o/
14:03:21 <jcapitao[m]> #chair amoralej
14:03:21 <opendevmeet> Current chairs: amoralej jcapitao[m] karolinku spotz
14:07:00 <jcapitao[m]> let's start with the first topic of the agenda today
14:07:08 <jcapitao[m]> #topic Retiring glare
14:07:18 <jcapitao[m]> #link https://lists.rdoproject.org/archives/list/dev@lists.rdoproject.org/thread/PVXIRURCMONAWLNSUN2PP6FDOROCDURQ/
14:07:32 <jcapitao[m]> #link https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/47036
14:08:37 <jcapitao[m]> we proposed a week ago to retire Glare on its client in RDO
14:09:14 <jcapitao[m]> we haven't received feedback for now
14:10:15 <jcapitao[m]> I think we can give a few more days
14:10:27 <amoralej> i think it has been enough :)
14:10:40 <amoralej> also, the upstream repo really looks unmaintained
14:10:51 <amoralej> so, let's just remove it
14:11:05 <jcapitao[m]> yeah actually, we can revert the patch if someone shows up later
14:11:13 <spotz> Sounds good
14:11:36 <jcapitao[m]> ok
14:11:37 <amoralej> see https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022192.html has almost two years
14:11:52 <amoralej> so, seems pretty clear the project is inactive
14:12:19 <amoralej> i just +2+W the rdoinfo patch right before the mtg
14:12:23 <spotz> Yeah 2 years is safe to say they're inactive
14:13:03 <amoralej> also, we didn't get any reply in the review from the old maintainers nor in ML
14:13:14 <jcapitao[m]> I didn't notice it x)
14:13:15 <jcapitao[m]> okk
14:13:55 <jcapitao[m]> #info Glare project and client have been retired during Antelope release preparation
14:14:27 <jcapitao[m]> let's move to the next topic
14:14:41 <jcapitao[m]> #topic Update about Antelope status
14:14:58 <jcapitao[m]> #link https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RDO-84
14:15:14 <jcapitao[m]> #link https://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/antelope-release-preparation
14:15:40 <jcapitao[m]> #undo
14:15:40 <opendevmeet> Removing item from minutes: #link https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RDO-84
14:15:52 <jcapitao[m]> #link https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RDO-84
14:16:02 <jcapitao[m]> #link https://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/antelope-release-preparation
14:16:38 <jcapitao[m]> we reqchecked clients and libs projects
14:16:59 <jcapitao[m]> #info libs and clients projects are reqchecked
14:17:28 <jcapitao[m]> but our Trunk builder is not yet up
14:17:46 <jcapitao[m]> we are dealing with some infra issues
14:17:53 <rdogerrit> Sean Mooney proposed config master: add openstack-k8s-operators/nova-operator  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/config/+/47183
14:18:17 <amoralej> hopefully https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/c/software-factory/sf-infra/+/27565 will fix it
14:18:20 <jcapitao[m]> hopefully we'll be able to start bootstrapping tomorrow fingers crossed
14:19:16 <amoralej> i hope so
14:19:48 <jcapitao[m]> #info Antelope Trunk builder creation is still WIP, the bootstrapping process will start afterward
14:20:58 <jcapitao[m]> maybe we could start reqchecking core projects
14:21:22 <jcapitao[m]> RC1 target week is next week
14:21:36 <amoralej> yes, i'd wait for rc1, just in case
14:22:52 <jcapitao[m]> yeah I think we have enough velocity to catch up the delay
14:23:03 <jcapitao[m]> let's wait then
14:23:21 <jcapitao[m]> that's all for this topic
14:23:43 <amoralej> yep, i think the important now is to get the builder up and running
14:23:49 <amoralej> and start with the bootstrap
14:24:50 <jcapitao[m]> yes
14:25:40 <jcapitao[m]> #topic Plan for TripleO deprecation
14:25:42 <jcapitao[m]> it's related to previous topic
14:25:44 <jcapitao[m]> bug big enough to have dedicated topic
14:25:54 <jcapitao[m]> #link https://lists.rdoproject.org/archives/list/dev@lists.rdoproject.org/thread/TCLLGNXWWPBV3JJKP77XBV2W6K4TP7S4/
14:26:32 <jcapitao[m]> a thread on ML have been initiated by amoralej
14:26:32 <amoralej> I think most of the information is in the ML
14:26:39 <amoralej> main points are
14:27:00 <amoralej> #info RDO will not include TripleO in CloudSIG Antelope repo
14:27:56 <amoralej> #info we will continue shipping tripleo packages in RDO Trunk in master and zed while the upstream branches exist in EM, we'll remove once they are removed or EOLed
14:28:32 <amoralej> #info For antelope we will keep them also building from master branches until removed
14:28:42 <amoralej> timing is not very clear
14:29:41 <amoralej> we can keep the packages in rdo trunk while tripleo or tripleo-ci teams are willing to run jobs
14:30:08 <amoralej> #info once we retire tripleo packages we need to reorganize packages and components
14:30:31 <amoralej> #link https://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/post-tripleo-proposal
14:31:14 <amoralej> note the packages we will retire from the list, point 5 and 5.1
14:31:35 <amoralej> we don't need to branch antelope-rdo for those
14:32:04 <jcapitao[m]> ack
14:32:13 <amoralej> we still need to clarify some packages with barbican team
14:32:23 <amoralej> ansible-role-*-hsm
14:33:27 <jcapitao[m]> and what about task-core and directord ?
14:33:31 <amoralej> other than that, i'd say the path to follow is clear, the timing is not
14:33:37 <amoralej> those can be removed now jcapitao[m]
14:33:58 <amoralej> actually, i was waiting for other reviews in rdoinfo to be merged
14:34:09 <amoralej> to avoid rebases, but it can be done
14:34:12 <jcapitao[m]> okk
14:35:45 <amoralej> also, somehow related to tripleo removal, is some getting new packages related to running openstack podified
14:36:50 <amoralej> #info a new package tcib has been requested for https://github.com/openstack-k8s-operators/tcib
14:37:20 <amoralej> this is the part of tripleo-common related to building container images
14:37:41 <jcapitao[m]> could we wait post Antelope before creating this component ?
14:38:01 <amoralej> i'd say we can create the new component only for tcib now
14:38:17 <amoralej> it shouldn't have any impact
14:38:54 <amoralej> are you figuring out any issue related with the new component?
14:39:59 <jcapitao[m]> after really thinking I'd say no
14:40:12 <jcapitao[m]> it was more a "just in case"
14:41:03 <amoralej> i'd say risk is low
14:41:38 <amoralej> #info the proposed name for the new component is "podified", still open to discussion
14:42:22 <amoralej> so packages in this new component will be related to running openstack under k8s using https://github.com/openstack-k8s-operators/
14:44:25 <amoralej> #link https://review.rdoproject.org/r/c/rdoinfo/+/47169
14:44:44 <amoralej> feel free to comment there if you have any doubt or suggestion
14:45:44 <jcapitao[m]> the first stone
14:46:51 <amoralej> yep :)
14:48:51 <amoralej> so, i think that's mostly it wrt tripleo deprecation
14:49:13 <jcapitao[m]> yes
14:49:41 <jcapitao[m]> let's move on
14:50:34 <jcapitao[m]> #topic Next chair
14:50:36 <jcapitao[m]> who's willing to chair next week ?
14:50:38 <jcapitao[m]> actually it'll be video mtg
14:50:48 <jcapitao[m]> as Feb ends day 28 this year
14:51:37 <amoralej> i can take it
14:52:20 <jcapitao[m]> action amoralej to chair next week
14:52:26 <jcapitao[m]> thank you
14:52:34 <jcapitao[m]> annnnnd
14:52:36 <jcapitao[m]> #topic Open Floor
14:55:05 <spotz> Nothing from me but we've had some really great conversations the last few meetings!
14:55:36 <amoralej> yep, things are moving
14:55:40 <amoralej> :)
14:56:10 <amoralej> someone mentioned documenting the release process during antelope prep :)
14:56:28 <amoralej> are you planning to create some doc or blog post?
14:56:43 <amoralej> btw, i need to write something about the new definition of done for antelope
14:57:04 <jcapitao[m]> ah good point
14:57:15 <karolinku[m]> I still want to write it! (the release procedure)
14:57:21 <amoralej> ah, good :)
14:57:24 <karolinku[m]> but I think after this release
14:57:30 <amoralej> ok, good
14:57:57 <karolinku[m]> too many technical stuff it going on now
14:58:58 <jcapitao[m]> yes let's take notes on what we're doing during this release preparation, in order to simplify the writing part
14:59:12 <amoralej> btw, we will also need to remove of modify the info about tripleo we have in rdoproject.org
15:00:33 <spotz> Sounds like a really good idea
15:00:38 <jcapitao[m]> right!
15:01:16 <jcapitao[m]> let's close the mtg for today
15:01:20 <jcapitao[m]> #endmeeting