22:02:23 #startmeeting reddwarf 22:02:23 Meeting started Tue Nov 27 22:02:23 2012 UTC. The chair is hub_cap. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:02:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:02:26 The meeting name has been set to 'reddwarf' 22:02:40 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/RedDwarfMeeting 22:03:07 yo 22:03:09 sup 22:03:12 lets start action items 22:03:32 sup peeps. 22:03:39 #topic Action Items from previous meeting 22:04:07 #info hub_cap has not talked image creation yet! Will be doing so this wk since im back from paternity leave 22:04:27 jcooley: you're up next, how bout devstack integration? 22:04:53 * CaptTofu is here too 22:05:05 jcooley may not avail 22:05:34 kk, do u have any infoz regarding his item vipuls? 22:05:38 hub_cap: SlickNik, dkehn from our end will be taking a closer look at this beginning late this week 22:05:59 ok cool 22:06:13 #action SlickNik dkehn to take over devstack / reddwarf integration 22:06:26 roger that. 22:06:32 vipuls, hub_cap: you guys have the link to last meetings action items? 22:06:32 ++ 22:06:40 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/reddwarf/2012/reddwarf.2012-11-20-22.03.html 22:06:41 SlickNik: in the meeting notes 22:06:46 the first link i posted 22:06:48 thanks. 22:06:49 itll always be in that 22:06:50 gotcha 22:06:50 #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/reddwarf/2012/reddwarf.2012-11-20-22.03.html 22:07:09 SlickNik: grapex1 update on the gate stuff? 22:07:37 Still work in progress. 22:07:40 hub_cap: Sorry, no update on that yet. I'd like to propose we wait on that until we can get RDLI running with the tests. 22:07:58 I was working with grapex to get the "real" mode integration tests running. 22:08:18 Yeah, lets focus on that first and then we can work on the gate. Until then it'll be hard to set up. 22:08:20 #info SlickNik grapex workign on the real mode integration tests before redstack-gate work 22:08:39 cp16net: youre next, blueprint stuffz 22:09:16 grapex1: I found a couple of little things regarding the unit tests but I will try to ping you after. 22:09:17 ai 22:09:19 yeah so looking at all the other projects they do not have any links 22:09:25 hub_cap, cp16net: pinged #openstack-infra earlier, and this is not supposed to work, at least the regex doesn't match non-openstack projects 22:09:30 as typical. in a meeting on nova bare-metal. 22:09:31 so i dont think we can change the blueprint links 22:09:42 vipuls: they are "Fixing" it 22:09:52 let me find the bug 22:10:04 yea, it may mean putting sometihng like 'implements blueprint reddwarf/xxx' 22:10:07 in the commit message 22:10:07 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1083766 22:10:08 Launchpad bug 1083766 in openstack-ci "gerrit only searches openstack namespace when linking blueprints" [Low,Triaged] 22:10:09 we'll see 22:10:22 * CaptTofu thought slicknik was the next generation sneakypete :) 22:10:25 also, the blueprint stuff does _not_ auto change blueprint status 22:10:37 even for openstack projects 22:10:43 heh @capttofu. 22:10:44 CaptTofu: you'll have to make a trip to seattle, lots of new face 22:10:52 12/10 22:10:58 nice 22:11:08 and hopefully show up with a new face of Simon 22:11:10 sweet. looking forward to meeting f2f. 22:11:26 ok mine is next 22:11:34 hub_cap: so what's the process for closing blueprints 22:11:35 manual? 22:11:40 yes vipuls 22:11:56 they mentioned coding it up tho 22:12:01 k 22:12:04 so it might be avail in teh future... :D 22:12:22 #info blueprint status change manual, not automated thru gerrit 22:12:37 so as for the projects, they are now all defaultd to a branch called stackforge 22:12:43 and only have a readme forwarding them to stackforge 22:12:51 example 22:12:53 http://github.com/hub-cap/reddwarf_lite 22:13:02 hub_cap: Nice. 22:13:07 woo 22:13:17 i didnt _see_ a readonly flag tho in github... 22:13:19 cool. Thanks, hubcap. 22:13:23 makes sense 22:13:24 did i miss something vipuls? 22:13:31 u mentioned making them r/o last wk 22:13:46 nope, just thought there was an option, maybe not 22:13:48 also (https://github.com/rackspace/reddwarf) 22:13:48 this is even better 22:13:59 agreed 22:14:01 ya so the client, integration, and mine/rax reddwarf are all updated 22:14:05 w/ proper links 22:14:22 ok next one is nebulous... 22:14:35 but i think spiffxp made some code changes regarding it 22:14:49 i think it relates to 9 22:14:51 #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16581/ <-- review for reddwarf_lite name change 22:15:02 oh duh 22:15:09 well then lets talk #9 :P 22:15:15 so for that, i think that reivew is one part of it 22:15:36 and i don't have have an update for the other bits, so let's keep that on the list for next meeting 22:15:42 cool 22:15:47 yah I was just grepping/sedding the python-reddwarfclient, reddwarf-integration, and reddwarf repos… not sure what else there is 22:15:50 #action vipul owns updating references 22:16:02 im sure itll be a work in progress 22:16:18 i think only other stuff is launchpad pages, and anywhere else we may have a link to non-stackforge stuff 22:16:39 also, im firing up a 12.04 vm so i can code primarily on the stackforge stuffs, so ill be able to help update some of the integration code as well 22:16:55 so as for #10, we already chatted about it, so ill pass on it 22:17:10 wow the power just flicker'd here, nice 22:17:17 haha yeha 22:17:30 I can take a look to see if there are any references on our internal wiki and fix them there. 22:17:43 #action start discussion about the need for the extra actions that require login in reddwarf 22:17:57 i didnt start that either, cuz well, i was holding a child and changing his diapers :P 22:18:13 any work on making user configurable from your guys vipuls? 22:18:33 nope no update on that.. damn long weekends 22:18:39 hah ya :P 22:18:40 not from my end, hub_cap 22:18:50 cool, then we finished Action Items, WOO! 22:19:09 #topic CI updates / Image updates 22:19:15 any update on this? 22:19:37 as per eariler i have not talked w/ lifeless/dev yet about gen'ing a image 22:19:44 but i believe you guys had said someone from hp was workign on it? 22:19:58 jdorothy got tox setup in python-reddwarfclient 22:20:24 great! u mentioned unit tests too on the client 22:20:37 any word on those? 22:20:47 those are coming next 22:20:59 thx jdorothy, good news indeed 22:21:04 justin, dror kagan from our end (forgot their IRC handles) are working on image building 22:21:24 first attempt is to get something similar to what's in redstack now, and make it work with 12.04 22:21:28 as well as with Percona 22:21:30 cool vipuls, ill reference last wks convo (they were on it) and ping them 22:21:54 the plan later is to hook into the vm builder work that devananda has, and build images using that 22:21:55 id like to get something automated so we can move forward, i can help shepherd it along even if i dont work on it 22:22:12 #action someone working on the image build to make a blueprint on the subject 22:22:24 those guys have started the conversation with devananda, so we're on the right track 22:22:29 very nice 22:22:42 grapex1: anything to add for ci? 22:23:16 hub_cap: Nope. Turkey day and some other stuff here got in the way of it, sorry. 22:23:23 sure np 22:23:25 But its my first priority now. 22:23:39 ok shall we skip on to the next item? anyone have any otehr CI updates? 22:24:05 #info work will resume this wk on CI / Image updating 22:24:16 nope, sounds good. 22:24:27 #action hub_cap to keep an eye on it, help with blueprinting 22:24:40 crap i gotta be more explicit w/ the action items, they dont make sense out of context..... 22:24:54 #topic Specific Blueprints 22:25:04 lets chat about 22:25:05 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/reddwarf/+spec/upgrade-oslo 22:25:22 steveleon attempted to do this, any update on this? 22:25:35 i was tasked internally w/ updating some of the common code, a small chunk of it actually and it snowballed 22:25:44 its completely do-able 22:25:49 and i don't think he's here 22:26:04 so couple of questions.. are we just doing a straight copy paste? 22:26:07 its my primary task, i had everything updated when i left, but only rpc/log/service was really done 22:26:10 vipuls: yes and no 22:26:17 yeah a big part is config 22:26:28 #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Oslo 22:26:41 #info the openstack-common config file details what to copy over 22:26:46 any word on if this is going to be packaged/versioned? 22:26:59 #info teh update.py script is broken currently too but a review is posted 22:27:05 vipuls: one day maybe :P 22:27:23 I suppose grizzly milestones are too much to ask for 22:27:55 markmc was talking to ttx about cutting a milestone 22:28:05 but that still wont hit pypi or anything 22:28:15 is it possible to at least separate openstack common and just check it out as referenced project? 22:28:15 and wont solve our namespace issues :( 22:28:32 esp1: not unless its packaged in some way 22:28:36 or a git submodule 22:28:41 yea, that may be a moving target 22:28:41 but then u end up w/ namespacing issues 22:28:41 darn 22:28:50 ya we will do what is recommended for now 22:28:54 copy-pasta via update.py 22:28:59 ive updated the code in my local env 22:29:06 ill be pushing small bits of it for reviews 22:29:13 so its not a big ugly code review 22:29:21 k cool 22:29:21 everyone ok w/ that? 22:29:25 cool 22:29:27 yes 22:29:32 next on the list of BPs 22:29:34 fwiw, I wonder if pip requirements can track git repos at a certain sha? 22:29:34 that sounds good. 22:29:39 #action hub_cap owns Oslo upgrade 22:29:52 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/reddwarf/+spec/volume-usage 22:30:00 this one id like to talk about cuz its a good learning experience 22:30:19 there is no info at all on it, and id like to see us start filling out BPs a bit more 22:30:40 ill be filling mine out as i figure out what pieces i need to update, so mine is shotty to, but its got a _bit_ of info in it 22:30:54 most of the time, wiki pages are created for the BPs 22:31:29 well _some_ of the time 22:31:36 k, we'll have to get better at writing these 22:31:38 if u can fit the info in it, then just add teh info there 22:31:46 ya all around, my guys too! 22:31:52 yep 22:32:01 related note: volumes don't work in ref impl 22:32:11 i guess i'll file a bug / blueprint to sort that out 22:32:13 #info volumes dont work in reference implementation 22:32:23 ya vipuls plz do 22:32:31 #action Vipul file bug/blueprint to fix volume support 22:32:41 once i get set up ill be able to help out a bit more w/ those things too, id like to knock out oslo first tho 22:33:04 Yeah, we hit that volume support bug earlier. 22:33:07 i know what _has_ to happen and whats nto happening, so work w/ me to get it done. i cna help answer q's 22:33:21 k will do 22:33:24 so who is Robert Myers? 22:33:31 no clue 22:33:31 he owns that BP 22:33:42 I can take a look at working with hub_cap to figure out what needs to be done. 22:33:45 don't think he's HP 22:33:47 lol burned 2x, thats our new guy 22:33:56 hehe 22:34:06 oops, is he already looking at it? 22:34:24 SlickNik: hes working w/ that BP yes 22:34:33 but thats not fixing vol in ref impl 22:35:03 Yep, i'll work on the ref impl fix... 22:35:06 ok does anyone have any Qs or other BPs to speak about? 22:35:15 yes thx vipuls that would be awesome 22:35:35 cool, thanks vipuls. 22:35:50 nope, don't think we've filed too many... 22:36:03 #action Vipul to file blueprint on image-building 22:36:37 soooo.... the next item is 'Movement on os_admin / root discussion ?', i think we know the answer on that right? 22:36:43 #topic Movement on os_admin / root discussion 22:37:06 so who is going to own this? 22:37:10 yeah, I haven't had a chance to default the user to "root" as was discussed. 22:37:13 I'll take that. 22:37:14 #info no movement on this yet 22:37:33 #action SlickNik to blueprint/own default user for the guest 22:37:51 you're fast. 22:37:54 got it. 22:37:59 i type for a living SlickNik ;) 22:38:06 slicknik: steveleon seemed like he was running into that, might want to ping him when he's around 22:38:33 okay spiffxp, I'll ping and check on steveleon. 22:38:57 I talked to steveleon today about it looks like he was running into another issue. maybe a bug in reddwarf api for creating a new mysql user? 22:39:41 ah n/m then 22:39:59 next item? 22:40:26 onwards 22:40:34 hub_cap fell asleep at the wheel 22:40:57 maybe their power went out 22:41:09 ok now for a fun one 22:41:14 man sry... i got booted 22:41:14 guess topic change didnt happen, sry all 22:41:14 #topic Dealing with Redstack (Integration) 22:41:15 lol lost power 22:41:15 my bouncer kept me on 22:41:18 yes it did... can u see my typing? 22:41:25 he's back. 22:41:47 lol im back yes, connectivity got hosed 5 min after power cycled, im sure they had to cycle the network 22:41:58 sorry bouncer makes me appear online :P 22:42:13 So, spiffxp didnt u have a review/wiki article in regard to this? 22:42:14 no, but we figured since the fast typing stopped. :P 22:42:16 znc has this neat auto-away feature I hear... 22:42:48 ya i dont like my nick changing... its quite annoying for me 22:42:57 hahah SlickNik 22:43:05 and ive switched to bip spiffxp, way nicer 22:43:19 So esp1, SlickNik have been working with grapex1 on getting redstack with real mode integration testing 22:43:23 is that what this item is? 22:43:32 hub_cap: hm, nope not really, I was planning on starting from from https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack and working backwards 22:43:45 well this is _anything_ related to integration, its somewhat nebulous 22:44:03 id like to get a gauge for what you guys are dealing w/ in the public, so we can try to make it mo-bettah 22:44:21 spiffxp: Are you saying you'll change devstack to set up Reddwarf? 22:44:47 I'd at least like to understand their framework, if there is one, and push for one for incubating projects if there isn't 22:45:14 ya lets keep that conversation going. spiffxp can u start a convo on the ML for that? so we can all see whats going on 22:45:21 I've been a bit out of the loop on getting redstack up and running on in-cloud instances, but I think that would at least be a good first step 22:45:41 grapex, spiffxp: that's sort of the redstack CI action item we discussed.. dkhen, SlickNick are also signed up for that 22:45:50 When we looked in the spring, it seemed devstack wasn't quite built for modularity, so we decided to have redstack call it and then do some additional steps. The modularity of devstack could have improved since then. 22:46:13 are you guys still using vagrant as your primary dev / ci env? 22:46:26 spiffxp: These days we all use vmware 22:46:30 vipuls: SlickNik can yall start a ML topic on that? 22:46:35 Plus a Cloud Server for CI 22:46:45 yep, dkehn, slicknick and spiffxp were going to look into what the right thing to do here is. 22:46:46 we should _not_ have any reliance on a particular vm tho 22:46:47 we're trying really hard to use openstack instances if possible, thinking that might make transition to CI easier 22:46:55 openstack CI is going to use salt/heat, but... 22:47:09 okay, I'll start a ML topic on this. 22:47:17 #action SlickNik, vipul, spiffxp, dkhen discuss devstack integration of Redstack in ML 22:47:25 starting to understand the way baremetal folk integrated into it use the devstack/lib approach seem plausable 22:47:25 thx guys 22:47:31 thanks vipuls 22:48:16 #info reddwarf-integration does _not_ work w/ 12.04 22:48:46 i didnt mean to make this exclusive to devstack, i likely misnamed it redstack in the meeting notes. i meant anything regarding reddwarf-integration 22:48:56 #info we haven't gotten 'real mode' tests to work yet 22:49:05 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/reddwarf-integration/+bug/1078901 22:49:07 Launchpad bug 1078901 in reddwarf-integration/grizzly "Redstack requires non-LTS ubuntu" [Undecided,New] 22:49:10 vipuls: Have you been able to successfully create a Reddwarf Instance? 22:49:35 grapex: yep via rd-client, ys 22:49:42 ive updated that bug report 22:50:24 vipuls: And the guest wakes up and updates the service status to active? 22:50:41 grapex: that part seems to work, service status is updated 22:50:48 @grapex: yes, we've been able to successfully create a reddwarf instance and get the guestagent running. 22:50:49 instance state reports as active 22:50:51 cool 22:51:10 ok thats good, so _some_ of RDI is working :D 22:51:26 maybe just need a walkthough of getting real-mode tests to run 22:51:41 ok #grapex to work w/ vipuls to get real-mode tests a-workin 22:51:47 doh im dumb 22:51:47 possibly related to this topic… where are we on de-duping tests between reddwarf and reddwarf-integration? 22:51:57 make that esp1, SlickNik 22:51:58 #action grapex to work w/ vipuls to get real-mode tests a-workin 22:52:02 doh 22:52:05 ugh 22:52:08 :) 22:52:12 heh, too fast :P 22:52:21 #action make that esp1, SlickNik to work w/ grapex to get real-mode tests a-workin 22:52:27 you have been stricken from teh record vipuls 22:52:31 spiffxp: I'd like to get the public RDI stuf fup and working before de-duping. 22:53:10 k, so is the gate getting rdi running in non-fake mode against a redstack instance? 22:53:20 grapex: spiffxp: I 22:53:35 've made a bit of progress here 22:53:36 spiffxp: Yes. 22:53:36 Yeah so the order we're looking at tackling this is: 22:53:36 1. get real mode tests working 22:53:37 2. de-dupe tests 22:53:37 3. Investigate and add CI-gates. 22:53:49 does that match up with what you had in mind, grapex? 22:53:52 SlickNik: Looks right. 22:53:54 time check about 7 minutes left 22:54:05 should we table the feature discussion to next meeting? 22:54:05 works for me, moving on? 22:54:13 and continue this, or move on 22:54:27 yep, features next meeting 22:54:52 kk, #action talk about Features next wk 22:55:01 durn i keep forgetting 22:55:08 #action talk about features next week 22:55:27 u gotta start with teh octothorpe 22:55:54 in teh beginning, there was hash. 22:56:09 ok so if tehre is no more chatter about integration/tests/etc we can move on 22:56:12 lol SlickNik 22:56:31 So we have 4 min for anything else not covered 22:56:34 #topic Open Discussion 22:56:51 Adding a new core member.. what will it take 22:57:13 doh i forgot about that, lets chat it up 22:57:32 well we can sub out spiffxp for SlickNik if we see fit as a core group 22:57:47 so spiffxp is leaving us :( -- would liek to get SlickNik added 22:57:53 im fine w/ it 22:57:59 sadface 22:58:02 but +1 22:58:04 abandoneer 22:58:09 sad to see spiffxp go :( 22:58:21 ok so 3/4 of us +1 the swap, ill make it so now 22:58:26 +1 22:58:30 4/4! 22:58:33 +1 22:58:40 lol vipuls u were 3/4 22:58:46 grapex was the other +1 22:58:50 darn 22:59:25 Wanted to bring up OpenVZ as well 22:59:49 after the summit, we had a good idea of what it would take.. i think devananda has done some work to make this possible now 22:59:56 good, i want to put our ovz guy back on the push for it 23:00:09 is this a blueprint item? -- or already on your plate? 23:00:09 hes ready, i just need buy in from our mgmt 23:00:19 ill be working on it this wk 23:00:25 its not a reddwarf BP tho 23:00:30 :P 23:00:34 make sense.. 23:00:43 ill give u update next wk on it 23:00:58 #action hub_cap to provide OVZ update next week 23:00:59 #action hub_cap to update group on OVZ adoption in nova 23:01:01 LOL 23:01:09 i gotta do it twice, geeeez 23:01:10 heh 23:01:22 ok anything else blowin in the wind? 23:01:35 should be idempotent 23:01:54 #info SlickNik core, spiffxp deactivated 23:02:10 nice 23:02:15 datsun180b: sure :D 23:02:35 ok then if no one has any objection ill be closing the meeting, ill give a min 23:02:54 thanks guys. 23:03:05 better on time this week :) 23:03:17 yar! 23:03:21 #endmeeting