22:02:25 <rockyg> #startmeeting refstack 22:02:26 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Feb 27 22:02:25 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rockyg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:02:27 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 22:02:29 <davidlenwell> there we go 22:02:29 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' 22:02:29 <zehicle_at_dell> bingo! 22:02:42 <davidlenwell> we'll get the hang on this one day 22:02:47 <rockyg> There we go. roll call for those who haven't typed in here since the reall start 22:03:04 <rockyg> :-) 22:03:05 <waiman> hi 22:03:23 <rockyg> Do we have an agenda? 22:03:43 <davidlenwell> I only really have a few things to share since last week 22:04:07 <rockyg> If not, #topic F2F next week 22:04:26 <davidlenwell> so the main thng I wanted to cover is getting us into stackforge 22:04:31 <rockyg> #topic F2F week of 3/3 22:04:35 <davidlenwell> its been a rocky path 22:04:43 <zehicle_at_dell> let's collect agenda items 22:04:46 <rockyg> #topic Stackforge 22:04:47 <davidlenwell> yeah .. 22:04:55 <zehicle_at_dell> since we have meeting on Monday 22:05:01 <zehicle_at_dell> and Demo on Tuesday 22:05:08 <davidlenwell> stackforge, f2f, demo 22:05:32 <davidlenwell> so we have a review to infra-config 22:05:33 <davidlenwell> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75226/ 22:05:38 <davidlenwell> that will put us in stackforge 22:05:40 <rockyg> other stuff next week (lots of things happening locally and lots of folks around) 22:05:59 <rockyg> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75226/ 22:06:19 <davidlenwell> however because the infra team has been hitting some hicups in their automation we are delayed till tomorrow 22:06:20 <davidlenwell> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/028130.html 22:06:29 <davidlenwell> they are now doing new project fridays 22:07:00 <davidlenwell> as you can see by that review that we have 3 +2's but not a +a .. they promise me we'll get the +A tomorrow and integrated 22:07:01 <rockyg> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/028130.html 22:07:14 <rockyg> kewl 22:07:21 <davidlenwell> yeah .. only took 8 days 22:07:35 <davidlenwell> not bad considereing the backlog they have 22:07:50 <tedchang> hi 22:08:10 <davidlenwell> So once we are live in stack forge catherineD and her people can actually contribute 22:08:15 <rockyg> will it build and be runnable? 22:08:31 <catherineD> yes.. 22:08:35 <davidlenwell> we're missing the runnable part from catherineD's team 22:08:43 <davidlenwell> catherineD: does it pass pep8 now ? 22:08:47 <catherineD> yes 22:08:50 <davidlenwell> awesome 22:08:52 <rockyg> catherineD: double kewl 22:08:58 <davidlenwell> thats good news .. 22:09:12 <davidlenwell> so tomorrow when we are live .. I'll be in touch and we can get some code merged and tested 22:09:22 <rockyg> It also means we'll have a good repository to work from next week. 22:09:28 * zehicle_at_dell high 5 everyone 22:09:42 <davidlenwell> I have a 3 node cluster here at my house I can run tests against running piston cloud 22:09:43 <rockyg> would that be W// 22:09:53 <catherineD> sure.. Unfortunately I will be out-of-town tomorrow .. 22:10:15 <catherineD> great we need to test on some clouds that are out-side of our lab 22:10:32 <rockyg> +1 22:10:39 <zehicle_at_dell> #topic TCUP 22:10:46 <davidlenwell> indeed 22:10:58 <zehicle_at_dell> I was trying to get it to work w/ my Rackspace creds 22:11:07 <davidlenwell> did you have any luck ? 22:11:10 <zehicle_at_dell> but was not sure what to update in the config 22:11:16 <zehicle_at_dell> no, Alex was trying to help me 22:11:23 <zehicle_at_dell> I could get the CLI to work 22:11:37 <zehicle_at_dell> so I know it can connect 22:11:53 <zehicle_at_dell> I'll have some time tomorrow to play if you're available 22:12:01 <davidlenwell> I will be around all day 22:12:10 <zehicle_at_dell> when do you get in? 22:12:25 <davidlenwell> I start working at around 9 am pst 22:12:35 <zehicle_at_dell> cool, I'll ping you 22:12:55 <zehicle_at_dell> I'm trying to get creds for some other test clouds 22:13:19 <zehicle_at_dell> did we ever reduce the # of tests? we really only need a few for this part of the work 22:13:23 <davidlenwell> if I can get my router working the way I want it before then I can give you some on mine 22:13:28 <davidlenwell> yes we did 22:14:09 <zehicle_at_dell> so, for TCUP, we're planning a work session tomorrow at 9 22:14:27 <zehicle_at_dell> let's coordinate on #refstack and see if other people want to play along 22:14:31 <davidlenwell> agreed 22:15:00 <zehicle_at_dell> I think we are close, it seems like tempest is installed and runnable 22:15:12 <rockyg> #info TCUP working session in #refstack starting 9am PST, 17:00 UTC 22:15:13 <davidlenwell> catherineD has it running .. 22:15:33 <davidlenwell> she'll share as soon as she's allowed to 22:15:36 <davidlenwell> silly lawyers 22:15:54 <zehicle_at_dell> ah, ok 22:15:56 <rockyg> #ref to Shakespeare 22:16:23 <catherineD> And I also run a long test with 840 testcase ran (not all of them passed in my lab env) so want to see how it runs in other clouds 22:16:31 <zehicle_at_dell> catherineD, can you compare your working stuff to what we have in davidlenwell repo? 22:16:55 <catherineD> we are based on what Daivid has in the repo 22:17:02 * zehicle_at_dell looking forward to getting this out in the community 22:17:16 <davidlenwell> catherineD: zehicle_at_dell merged some changes just the other day 22:17:26 <catherineD> ic 22:17:39 <davidlenwell> also .. joshua also took a crack at it .. put it in the scripts directory 22:17:40 <zehicle_at_dell> thanks, I think I'm following the base, not david's 22:17:48 <catherineD> what is the branch? we can test agaun ,, 22:17:53 <davidlenwell> master 22:18:13 <davidlenwell> my repo is what stackforge will pull from tomorrow for the initial commit 22:18:47 <catherineD> have you made any update? 22:18:54 <zehicle_at_dell> ah, we've got changes in 2 locations 22:19:00 <davidlenwell> I got in there last week and made it pass flake8 tests and fixed the license headers 22:19:02 <catherineD> update to the David branch that is .. 22:19:27 <davidlenwell> should have been 3 commits.. mine, josh and zehicle_at_dell 22:19:46 <zehicle_at_dell> it looks like josh and I did matching work in different directories 22:19:56 <davidlenwell> zehicle_at_dell: you did .. 22:20:06 <davidlenwell> within hours of each other 22:20:51 <zehicle_at_dell> great minds 22:20:54 <davidlenwell> so I have some sad news about next week.. 22:20:59 <rockyg> is this topic baked? 22:21:03 <davidlenwell> yes 22:21:09 <zehicle_at_dell> +1 22:21:09 <davidlenwell> next is f2f 22:21:10 <rockyg> #topic F2F 22:21:21 <rockyg> sad news? 22:21:23 <davidlenwell> so my sad news is that I won't be able to make it to sf 22:21:33 <rockyg> Dang! 22:21:53 <davidlenwell> my land lord decided to evict me because of my girlfriends dog while I was out of town last week 22:22:00 <davidlenwell> so I have to move 22:22:09 <davidlenwell> which I was unprepaired for 22:22:29 <davidlenwell> but I am available for being skyped in to any meeitng 22:22:44 <rockyg> :-( Hope you've found a nicer place 22:22:51 <davidlenwell> not yet .. but I will 22:22:55 * zehicle_at_dell sad to hear that 22:22:55 <rockyg> I checked into space here. We've got wifi, conference rooms 22:23:13 <rockyg> It's in Santa Clara, though. 22:23:14 <catherineD> that is sad for the reason of eviction ,,, 22:23:16 <zehicle_at_dell> Josh offered to host - we've got a full DefCore meeting at 3 22:23:40 <zehicle_at_dell> I should be in the office at 10 22:23:41 <davidlenwell> piston is always happy to host the refstack crew .. just fyi .. but thats up in the city 22:24:12 <zehicle_at_dell> I'd like to do it at Piston b/c that's where the defcore meeting is 22:24:26 <rockyg> So, let's do an info on location. Is Josh at Piston? 22:24:27 <davidlenwell> is that on monday? 22:24:32 <zehicle_at_dell> yes 22:24:37 <davidlenwell> josh is cto of piston 22:24:43 <rockyg> Ah. 22:24:50 <zehicle_at_dell> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreElephant.5 22:24:55 <zehicle_at_dell> that's the DefCore meeting 22:24:57 <davidlenwell> is that meeting monday ? 22:25:01 <zehicle_at_dell> yy 22:25:19 <davidlenwell> I might have to try to come up for the day .. I'll let you guys know 22:25:36 <zehicle_at_dell> w/ davidlenwell remote, we're going to have to work via hangout so remote work gets easier 22:26:03 <rockyg> #INFO Piston Cloud 49 Geary St. Suite 530 San Francisco, CA 94108 22:26:25 <catherineD> so DefCore meeting is at 3:00 22:26:48 <zehicle_at_dell> note on TCUP - those files are not the same. They have differences that we may need to reconcile 22:26:50 <rockyg> Will we still meet at 10am for the F2F at Piston? 22:27:00 <zehicle_at_dell> yes 22:27:05 <rockyg> Good. 22:27:26 <zehicle_at_dell> I'll confirm w/ Josh, but that was the commitment. he said there was a room reserved for it 22:27:48 <davidlenwell> I can check that from other channels as well 22:27:49 <zehicle_at_dell> I suspect we'll stop at 3 for the DefCore meeting. 22:28:01 <rockyg> Yup. 22:28:16 <rockyg> I'm hoping for an attitude readjustment seminar after. 22:28:31 <zehicle_at_dell> since demo of TCUP + RefStack is topic for that meeting, would be good to lead off w/ that 22:28:59 <zehicle_at_dell> rockyg, I think we were planning drinks - is that sufficient? 22:29:12 <davidlenwell> piston has lots of snacks .. and we like to share 22:29:15 <zehicle_at_dell> "Note: you MUST bring your own beverages to join by remote. We will verify." 22:29:19 <rockyg> Agenda: Current State - Gaps to demo, demo,m refstack 22:29:33 <zehicle_at_dell> +1 22:29:46 <zehicle_at_dell> #topic demo prep 22:29:53 <rockyg> Drinks would work. Nearest microbrewery would, too. I know about Great Bear, but one might be closer. 22:30:42 <davidlenwell> piston is populated with alchoholics 22:30:46 <davidlenwell> who can't spell 22:30:48 <davidlenwell> ;) 22:31:20 <rockyg> Demo prep: identification of required SW, HW, Networks, display 22:31:59 <rockyg> zehicle_at_dell will be pre3senting, correct? 22:32:32 <rockyg> Or, do you want catherineD and Zehicle_at_dell to do the talking? 22:32:49 <zehicle_at_dell> yy 22:33:08 <catherineD> let's talk about what we are demoing ... 22:33:14 <zehicle_at_dell> For the board meeting, I'm running it 22:33:20 <zehicle_at_dell> we may also have Josh run it too 22:33:57 <zehicle_at_dell> It does not have to us at the DefCore meeting, but I'll sleep better on Monday if I know I have a working demo 22:34:23 <rockyg> Would be nice to show two test sets and how easy it is to switch, if that's the case. 22:34:59 <davidlenwell> should be doable 22:35:07 <catherineD> So are we demoing running the tests .. 22:35:11 <rockyg> Then let's talk environment. do we have one that everyone(at lest those running) can access and that already works? 22:35:13 <davidlenwell> depending on the state of things from catherineD's team 22:35:28 <davidlenwell> catherineD: how much of the hard coding of settings have you been able to get passed? 22:35:54 <catherineD> we are down to the last 2 modules 22:36:15 <catherineD> the problem is we need to be able to check in code 22:36:27 <catherineD> or all the code is still with us 22:36:58 <davidlenwell> the infra team has told me we should merge tomorrow and be good 22:36:59 <rockyg> last week you said lawyers were OK with checkin if it was stackforge? 22:37:18 <davidlenwell> rockyg: but we still aren't in stackforge and catherineD isn't working tomorro w 22:37:35 <davidlenwell> but then it still has to pass review 22:37:43 <davidlenwell> so we are running out of time 22:37:52 <davidlenwell> unless any of her people can work over the weekend at all 22:38:04 <rockyg> Can it be non-voting to start? 22:38:17 <davidlenwell> rockyg: that sounds messy .. 22:38:25 <davidlenwell> but I suppose it could 22:38:42 <rockyg> Key is. We get the "vote, 22:38:58 <rockyg> " but we don't break if it is -1 22:39:06 <rockyg> If we can do that. 22:39:08 <catherineD> or we can demo what we showed last week to David 22:39:28 <zehicle_at_dell> we topic jumped 22:39:35 <davidlenwell> indeed 22:39:49 <zehicle_at_dell> I'm ok w/ that - I think we lined out the demo last meeting 22:40:21 <rockyg> Just wanna make sure you know the environment you will run on and can do some test runs 22:40:26 <davidlenwell> catherineD: worst case I think demoing what you showed me is fine 22:40:59 <catherineD> ok that is much better ... 22:41:13 <rockyg> So, worst case, we have catherineD's code and environment and we know it works. 22:41:58 <rockyg> #action fallback plan is to run catherineD's code in here environment from the last F2F 22:43:05 <davidlenwell> anythings else we need to cover? 22:43:11 <rockyg> If we get catherineD s code in the repo, then everyone can give it some test runs and make the calls 22:43:39 <catherineD> For testing of the new code, let's plan to have some public cloud for the f2f worjking session .. 22:44:00 <catherineD> +1 about getting code tp repo 22:44:20 <davidlenwell> catherineD: so you said you aren't around tomorrow? 22:44:40 <catherineD> yes I have a planned day off ... 22:44:52 <davidlenwell> catherineD: and I imagine you don't work on weekends? 22:45:06 <davidlenwell> can someone else on your team commit code ? 22:45:09 <catherineD> I will be available Sunday afernoon .. 22:45:11 <zehicle_at_dell_> back 22:45:30 <catherineD> I will check with my team .. 22:45:38 <catherineD> about commit code .. 22:45:45 <rockyg> +1 22:45:47 <davidlenwell> catherineD: it would be ideal if we could commit sooner rahter than later 22:46:07 <catherineD> +1 as soon as it is ready .. 22:47:14 <rockyg> anything else on demo or stackforge? 22:47:54 <davidlenwell> I don't think so 22:47:56 <catherineD> Can someone send email when StackForge is ready? 22:48:02 <davidlenwell> I will 22:48:03 <zehicle_at_dell_> any updates on API for posting? 22:48:20 <rockyg> #topic status and updates 22:49:12 <rockyg> Doesn't sound like it. 22:49:40 <davidlenwell> I think catherineD had roughed out some methods in the api 22:49:49 <davidlenwell> should work as a start 22:50:37 <catherineD> yep 22:51:12 <rockyg> davidlenwell: you mentioned you had sketched out some drawings on architecture. If you've got that and other rough stuff, I can work tomorrow on getting it into the wiki, which will make it usable for slides. 22:51:28 <davidlenwell> I will eamil you some photos of whiteboards 22:51:57 <davidlenwell> and im around to chat about it if you need to 22:51:58 <rockyg> fantastic 22:52:47 <rockyg> 8 minutes 22:52:56 <rockyg> #topic open discussion 22:53:06 <rockyg> Anything else we're forgetting? 22:53:10 <davidlenwell> I think we've covered most of it unless osmeone else has questions 22:53:21 <catherineD> we will be at the RefStack working session? 22:53:37 <rockyg> Yes. Shooting for 10am. 22:53:48 <davidlenwell> I am working out how to get up for the day 22:54:16 <rockyg> rent an rv and live out of it until you find your apartment?-) 22:54:26 <davidlenwell> rockyg: tempting 22:54:44 <davidlenwell> josh just told me to move to sf and forget my home town 22:55:14 <rockyg> Almost works for me. SF is too city. 22:55:23 <davidlenwell> yeah .. I could handle pacifica 22:55:30 <davidlenwell> for santa cruze 22:55:33 <davidlenwell> cruz 22:55:38 <rockyg> +100 22:56:19 <rockyg> Well, if there's nothing else... 22:56:30 <davidlenwell> that will do it 22:56:33 <rockyg> #endmeeting