19:23:56 <juliashapovalov2> #startmeeting refstack 19:23:56 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Sep 8 19:23:56 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is juliashapovalov2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:23:58 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:24:01 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' 19:24:35 <rockyg> #meeting refstack 19:25:02 <rockyg> Thankyou juliashpovalov2 19:25:14 <rockyg> Rollcall 19:25:21 <catherine_d> here 19:25:21 <rockyg> o/ 19:25:42 <juliashapovalov2> here 19:26:21 <rockyg> #topic status 19:26:48 <rockyg> (juliashapovalov2 needs to do all commands) 19:28:10 <catherine_d> refstack.org site is down ... 19:28:17 <juliashapovalov2> #topic status 19:28:30 <rockyg> So, where are we? what needs core review? Please put up the links to the reviews that need core. 19:29:41 <catherine_d> David just join ... 19:30:32 <zehicle> o/ 19:30:41 <catherine_d> not sure why this one fail gate .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117651/ 19:31:50 <rockyg> zehicle: were you on the same flight as davidlenwell? 19:32:03 <davidlenwell> I am here 19:32:10 <rockyg> Any waiting for core review? 19:32:14 <davidlenwell> give me a minute to catch up 19:32:20 <davidlenwell> zehicle: was on a call that ran long 19:32:24 <davidlenwell> I was in the air 19:33:40 <rockyg> nothing to catch up on, yet;-) 19:35:35 <zehicle> I've got a review for the designated sections shema 19:37:59 <rockyg> I need to review that. 19:38:42 <rockyg> zehicle: question: should the definitive havana defcore json files live under OpenStack governance? 19:39:03 <rockyg> Once settled, it should be owned by the board, right? 19:39:29 <zehicle> yes 19:39:58 <zehicle> there's no other place for files like these that also have gerrit voting 19:40:05 <fcarpenter> (sorry I'm late) 19:40:52 <rockyg> That would mean that all the files in refstack should be generated from the governance files, such as capabilities.json 19:41:11 <catherine_d> zehicle : so the tests for havana will be from tempest-stable-havana and not from the current tempest master right? 19:41:38 <juliashapovalov2> question regarding the havanacore: shouldn't this file correspond to tests in Tempest master? i mean if tests will be changed or deprecated these changes should be reflected in json also 19:43:03 <rockyg> Remember: tests for Havana are against the Havana *release*, not against the current state of OpenStack projects. 19:43:37 <juliashapovalov2> it would be inconsistent to support one OpenStack version only from separate branch 19:43:59 <zehicle> juliashapovalov2, we do want the tests to be from trunk tempest 19:44:12 <zehicle> davidlenwell, did we make progress on getting UUIDs for tests? 19:44:15 <zehicle> that would be needed 19:44:22 <rockyg> fyi: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:+stackforge/refstack,n,z 19:44:23 <rockyg> Link to open reviews 19:44:33 <zehicle> rockyg, so we need to have a way to know which tests were there for each release 19:44:47 <zehicle> I'm multithreaded, sorry about the lags 19:44:51 <davidlenwell> not yet .. I'll have answers this week 19:45:14 <zehicle> juliashapovalov2, +1. I think we agreed in ATL that we'd be from trunk for all releases including havana 19:45:57 <catherine_d> davidlenwell and zehicle: woudl adding uuid to test be a good topic for design session on Paris? 19:46:11 <davidlenwell> I Want to solve it long before paris 19:46:17 <rockyg> Zehicle: so we are from trunk, but are we taking tests fro HEAD, or from when the release was cut? 19:47:17 <juliashapovalov2> tests may be released much later then official OpenStack version// 19:47:26 <davidlenwell> the data still doesn't mean anything over time without the uuid's 19:47:28 <zehicle> rockyg, the later - from when the release was cut 19:47:44 <zehicle> we cant have tests that shows up in Icehouse be part of the havana critieria 19:48:06 <zehicle> we're limited to the tests that were there at the release 19:48:13 <zehicle> otherwise it's a moving target 19:48:23 <zehicle> besides, for core, we're talking about stable features only 19:48:35 <catherine_d> so if it is from release the refstack-client need to be able to test at release level ... 19:48:39 <zehicle> so there should not be a lot of new tests that change the functionality 19:49:08 <zehicle> catherine_d, we'd test all the tests and then apply a "which release does this pass filter" 19:49:12 <catherine_d> <zehicle> the problem is not for the new test ... but for the tests that are relocated 19:49:35 <zehicle> it would be interesting if we tested icehouse and could say it passed core for havana & icehouse. frankly, it should be able to do that 19:49:46 <zehicle> catherine_d, yes. that's why we need IDs 19:50:08 <catherine_d> yes ... so without UUID .. are we stuck now? 19:50:22 <juliashapovalov2> what format of UUID's do you expect? 19:50:35 <zehicle> I 19:50:36 <zehicle> I 19:50:51 <juliashapovalov2> we can mock them for now, i beleive 19:50:51 <zehicle> I'd like to have a workaround, but I do think we'll need UUIDs to complete the cycle 19:51:11 <catherine_d> <zehicle> agree ... 19:51:12 <zehicle> we could also have a lookup table 19:51:32 <catherine_d> I think it will take sometime for uuid feature to be implemented 19:51:58 <rockyg> also, zehicle, does DefCore have a repository in governance yet? 19:52:55 <zehicle> rockyg, no 19:53:16 <zehicle> did not realize that there was a dedicated repo for that - is that what the TC is using? 19:53:24 <zehicle> if so, we can move the /defcore items to that 19:53:33 <rockyg> woa! uh, what just happened? Flood o' messages 19:54:17 <zehicle> ah, ok. #link https://github.com/openstack/governance 19:54:25 <zehicle> I'd be happy to move the defcore stuff to that 19:54:46 <zehicle> but want to make sure that we've got the right Core reviewers. Who manages that repo? 19:56:46 <rockyg> That one looks like TC. Lemme do some more looking, though. 19:59:41 <zehicle> the question to me is, does it help refstack to have those outside of the repo? I don't really care where they reside 20:00:31 <rockyg> I really think the changes, once official, need to be owned by the foundation, not by the implementers of the certification software 20:01:53 * redrobot is ready to chair barbican meeting 20:01:57 <rockyg> Can we end meeting and move to Refstack? Barbican has this now? 20:02:19 <catherine_d> sure 20:02:30 <rockyg> I think Juliashapovalov2 needs to 3endmeeting 20:02:36 <rockyg> #endmeeting that is... 20:02:41 <juliashapovalov2> #endmeeting