18:57:35 <davidlenwell> #startmeeting refstack 18:57:36 <openstack> Meeting started Mon May 4 18:57:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidlenwell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:57:37 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:57:40 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' 18:57:53 <davidlenwell> Today's agenda: 1) Refstack PTL election 2) Recap last week action item 3) Plan for Refstack to demo to DefCore on May 6 18:57:53 <davidlenwell> 4) pending reviews 5)open discussion 18:58:17 <davidlenwell> #topic roll call 19:00:58 <catherine_d|1> o/ 19:02:17 <hogepodge> o/ 19:02:31 <slypushenko__> o/ 19:02:49 <pvaneck> o/ 19:03:03 <rockyg> O/ 19:03:14 <davidlenwell> #topic 1) Refstack PTL election 19:03:48 <davidlenwell> nobody has reached out to put their name in the ring.. So unless I missed something catherine_d|1 is running unapposed.. which simplifies things.. 19:07:28 <davidlenwell> fi there are no objections I'd like to fomalize it now by saying hail to our new overlord ;) catherine_d|1 I know your are best fit for the job! 19:07:49 <slypushenko__> Fully agreed! 19:08:09 <hogepodge> +1 19:08:19 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: thank you ! I need to learn a lot from you 19:08:19 <davidlenwell> congratulations catherine_d|1 19:08:22 <hogepodge> (+2, +1 workflow) 19:08:41 <rockyg> Yay! 19:09:19 <catherine_d|1> Thank you every one! As a team, we will make our proejct flies high!!! 19:10:07 <davidlenwell> #topic 2) Recap last week action item 19:10:32 <davidlenwell> 1) Q/A summit session: Chris (UUID) and Catherine (password issue) had added 2 sessions. Status: done 19:11:24 <davidlenwell> hogepodge and catherine_d|1 both added something to the etherpad right? 19:11:33 <catherine_d|1> yes 19:11:49 <davidlenwell> good.. thanks for following though on that .. 19:11:55 <davidlenwell> 2) need to decide on Refstack team face-2-face meeting at the summit. Pick a day for breakfast early in the week. Status: Open 19:12:35 <davidlenwell> I'd like to do this early in the week.. but I'll be flaxible.. 19:13:15 <davidlenwell> flexible even 19:13:53 <catherine_d|1> do we know where we should meet? 19:14:25 <davidlenwell> I have no idea.. someones hotel resturant 19:15:52 <davidlenwell> okay .. next up 3) davidlenwell to provide login access for catherine to refstack.net server. Status: (should be done) 19:16:09 <davidlenwell> is done 19:16:20 <rockyg> Kewl 19:16:29 <davidlenwell> http://refstack.net/#/ 19:16:37 <davidlenwell> has stuff on it .. sould be good to demo 19:17:03 <davidlenwell> catherine_d|1: is supposed to be uploading more results to it this week 19:17:20 <catherine_d|1> I just uploaded 2 sets of data ... 19:17:34 <davidlenwell> 4) Commit the wsgi file asap. Sergey's patch was merged (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178712/). Status: Done 19:17:49 <catherine_d|1> thx slypushenko__: 19:18:42 <slypushenko__> catherine_d|1 welcome) 19:18:58 <slypushenko__> davidlenwell Demo looks really good! 19:19:12 <davidlenwell> #topic 3) Plan for Refstack to demo to DefCore on May 6 19:19:32 <davidlenwell> catherine_d|1: would you like to talk here ? 19:19:34 <catherine_d|1> should we meet sometime tomorrow to work on the slides and flow for the demo ... 19:20:40 <davidlenwell> we can meet remotely 19:20:48 <davidlenwell> I'm free in the afternoon 19:20:51 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: as our PTL you will leading the demo to show all our hardwork for the last year ... we will all be there to charm in ... this is our showtime 19:21:23 <catherine_d|1> what time? I can send out call in umber and web meeting link // 19:21:32 <davidlenwell> 2pm? 19:22:24 <catherine_d|1> 2 mp is good for me ... how about other people? especcially slypushenko__: hope it is not too late for you ... 19:22:40 <rockyg> Works for me 19:22:53 <catherine_d|1> rockyg: great ... 19:23:04 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: how about you? 19:23:22 <hogepodge> I'll be at the defcore meeting 19:24:08 <slypushenko__> 2pm is very late for me, but it is not a bid deal. I think every thing will be fine without me 19:24:09 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: just want to confirm it is 2:00 pm PDT on Tuesday .. 19:24:25 <davidlenwell> yes 19:24:28 <davidlenwell> confirmed 19:24:51 <catherine_d|1> pvaneck: how about you? 19:25:05 <pvaneck> whenever 19:25:22 <catherine_d|1> ok I will send out invitation and web link 19:25:56 <catherine_d|1> the demo to DefCore will be at 9:00 pdt on Wednesday ... can everyone make it? 19:27:05 <catherine_d|1> 9:00 am pdt 19:27:09 <davidlenwell> by the way .. catherine_d|1.. You're the ptl ;) but I can still run the demo 19:27:38 <slypushenko__> catherine_d|1 +1 19:27:50 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: this is all the hard work for the last year .. 19:28:21 <catherine_d|1> I will be there .. 19:30:09 <davidlenwell> okay .. we'll hit the details then.. 19:30:15 <davidlenwell> #topic 4) pending reviews 19:31:54 <davidlenwell> anyone have anything pending that needs the groups attention? 19:32:59 <catherine_d|1> not from the refstack and refstack-client .... but we have some issues with Tempest reviews ... 19:33:11 <davidlenwell> call em out catherine_d|1 19:34:17 <catherine_d|1> Ok right now Refstack (tempest) will not pass a lot of tests in the environment that have stringent password rules ... Thjis will affect most of the public clouds 19:34:59 <catherine_d|1> bugs --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1448217 19:34:59 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1448217 in tempest "Password is not strong enough failures" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to yuxingw (yuxingw) 19:36:08 <catherine_d|1> there are 2 patches attempt to fix this problem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178546/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178561/ 19:36:27 <catherine_d|1> thx slypushenko__: for reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178546/ 19:37:28 <catherine_d|1> we know it will take time for QA to merge them ... what is our possition? I know some public cloud will face this problem 19:38:12 <catherine_d|1> in short, Refstack/Tempest will not being able to test public cloud ... 19:38:19 <davidlenwell> patience with other teams should always be a high priority 19:39:26 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: but deadline to submit data is May 11 .... I am thinking you may get some email from public cloud vendors this week ... 19:40:14 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: I have four groups verified passing, one that needs to fix a few tests, and many others in progress. 19:40:42 <slypushenko__> 2_all: I think we have discussed most of important topics... I'm sorry, but I need to go. 19:40:50 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: anyone of them failed because of password issues? 19:41:04 <davidlenwell> thanks slypushenko__! 19:41:11 <catherine_d|1> slypushenko__: thx 19:42:03 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: no 19:42:07 <davidlenwell> lets move on to open discusison 19:42:18 <davidlenwell> #topic 5) open discussion 19:42:31 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: I think we are in open discussion 19:42:54 <davidlenwell> that was still pending reviews 19:43:00 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: anyone of them are true public clouds? That means that they do not just build a cloud for the test ... 19:43:28 <catherine_d|1> like HP cloud 19:43:43 <catherine_d|1> I think may have problem with password .... 19:44:06 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: not submitted, but a few are in progress. 19:44:23 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: could we count this disussion as open discussion .. 19:44:50 <davidlenwell> yes catherine_d|1 19:45:09 <davidlenwell> talk about anything.. those are the rules :) 19:45:45 <hogepodge> I'd like to see more public clouds. I think it's going to take time, though. 19:45:54 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: ic ... I am interesting to see whether they will hit this problem ... if they don't it just mean that their password rule in their public cloud are not swith trong rules 19:46:24 <catherine_d|1> with strong rules 19:47:22 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: will we accept testing with the SHA that we define plus pulling code from pending review patches? 19:47:44 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: I mean will OpenStack Foundation accepts ... 19:48:26 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: what do you mean? 19:49:59 <catherine_d|1> say they build the test env with refstack-client ... setup_env (that with default SHA build on April 10) then pull https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178546/ and t https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178561/ on top of it .. 19:52:12 <hogepodge> It should be from a merged branch of Tempest 19:53:10 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: OK 19:53:26 <hogepodge> If it's a bug-fixing patch, then there's no reason for it not to make it. But I'd hesitate to allow non-approved patches, since there's no guarantee that a patch will make it and would set a precedent to just send changes to get around what could be real interop problems 19:54:54 <catherine_d|1> hogepodge: In that case, I think the Refstack/DefCore need to help to set priority for QA to merge t https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178561/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178546/ 19:55:43 <hogepodge> catherine_d|1: ok 19:55:48 <davidlenwell> okay .. we are reaching the end of our time together here today.. I'd like to offer my ongoing support and congratuations to our new PTL catherine_d|1 .. as always I'm in #refstack and available for reviews or any discussion you'd like.. 19:55:49 <catherine_d|1> because sooner or later public vendors will hit it 19:56:24 <catherine_d|1> davidlenwell: thank you! 19:57:41 <davidlenwell> #endmeeting