15:00:04 #startmeeting releaseteam 15:00:05 Meeting started Fri Dec 15 15:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:08 o/ 15:00:10 The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' 15:00:12 mmmeeting 15:00:14 ping dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx 15:00:20 o/ 15:00:33 Morning fungi and lbragstad o/ 15:01:11 dhellmann is on vacation. We'll see if any other folks show up. Might be a quick one today. \o/ 15:01:30 yep 15:01:31 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking Agenda 15:01:39 Hey ttx. 15:01:53 OK, I'm guessing that will be it today. 15:02:05 Currently line 171 in the etherpad. 15:02:23 * ildikov is lurking :) 15:02:40 * smcginnis shines the spotlight on ildikov :) 15:02:44 OK... 15:02:52 #topic Missing q-2. 15:03:07 I'll be honest, I haven't run a check yet. 15:03:26 * ttx checks 15:03:30 I'm a little afraid to actually. It seemed a little light this past week. 15:03:49 From those who did q1, only trove missing 15:04:00 from quick glance at https://releases.openstack.org/queens/index.html 15:04:03 OK, that's not too bad. 15:04:11 BUt there might be some who missed both 15:04:25 That's what I am more concerned about. 15:05:00 ttx: So any of those are out of the coordinated Queens release per our policy, correct? 15:05:01 Notes from R-18 doesn't seem to point to any, did you have the list from back then? 15:05:13 smcginnis: that's the theory 15:05:23 ttx: I think there were just a handful actually. 15:05:34 might be the same handful though 15:05:43 * ttx digs deeper 15:05:48 ttx: Any repercussions as far as being under governance? 15:07:13 actually I think they are all in 15:07:36 Oh good. 15:07:43 the 4 that missed all hit b2 15:08:03 senlin searchlight freezer blazar 15:08:22 Yep, those all look familiar. I had contacted the PTLs directly after q1. 15:08:43 Just for future reference, what all does happen if a project misses two milestones? 15:08:58 I'm not sure I've seen that spelled out in documentation. 15:09:10 in theory, is not included in the release. Then the TC reviews team for removal 15:09:50 "is not included in the release" meaning we won't process a b3 or rc 15:10:01 since we don't trust that team to be able to complete the rc process 15:10:12 So up to the discussion in the TC as far as removal as an official project? 15:10:19 yes 15:10:31 OK, good to know. Thanks! 15:11:00 #info All projects that missed q1 were able to do a q2 release 15:11:12 afaict 15:11:18 #topic Open Discussion 15:11:20 might be worth to run a proper check 15:11:42 So I've been looking into my January and it looks like I'll be traveling during FF week with limited availability 15:11:42 I have a quick question 15:11:44 ttx: Maybe one of those things that we just need to figure out how we want to handle it when and if we get there. 15:11:53 as will fungi and clarkb 15:12:01 (week of jan 22) 15:12:02 ttx: Foundation off site? 15:12:05 yes 15:12:09 yup 15:12:24 OK, thanks for the heads up. 15:12:28 ildikov: What's up? 15:13:01 I got pinged by the Release Manager of OPNFV, he would like to learn a bit more about our release models 15:13:03 we'll need to make sure we have other infra-root around on that week 15:13:13 ttx: ++ 15:13:16 so I wanted to ask if anyone here would be willing/available to chat with him? 15:13:21 smcginnis: wanna take those questions, or should I ? 15:13:30 he's particularly interested in the independent release model 15:14:08 ttx: I know you still have a deeper understanding of everything and better background on the why's of it, but I can if you want me to. 15:14:10 i find that relatively amusing, given that independent release model is our least structured one 15:14:23 fungi: True! ;) 15:14:39 it's our "whatever, dude" model 15:14:43 it's pretty much just the catch-all for projects which perform releases without following a group cadence 15:14:46 ildikov: Do you know where they are located? 15:15:25 smcginnis: somewhere in the US, my guess is Central Time 15:16:00 ildikov: Cool. Yeah, you can share my email with them. Then we can either discuss over email, or if they want to talk it would be easy for me to call or hangout. 15:16:16 smcginnis: sure, thank you 15:16:28 ildikov: Is it true there are not going to be OPNFV summits anymore? 15:17:20 are they rolling that into the linux foundation's "open networking summit"? 15:17:22 smcginnis: Yes, LF is consolidating some of the efforts so Open Networking Summit will be the place for the networking projects to get together 15:17:44 fungi: yes, ONS will be the big thing from that perspective next year 15:17:49 got it 15:17:50 fungi: we will see how it works out 15:18:02 OK. Well, if we are ever at the same events, the cross-community discussions we've had with k8s and other have been great. Would love to include them in a future one if we can. 15:18:24 #link https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-networking-summit-north-america-2018/ 15:18:40 los angeles in march 15:18:45 smcginnis: +1 15:19:04 Hmm. Would be interesting to go, but I would probably have a hard time justifying that one. 15:19:26 Anything else we want to cover in the meeting? 15:19:49 nothing else here 15:19:53 i'm good 15:20:17 OK, thanks everyone. Have a good weekend. 15:20:35 #endmeeting