16:01:57 <smcginnis> #startmeeting releaseteam 16:01:58 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jan 17 16:01:57 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:59 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:01 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' 16:02:18 <smcginnis> "Oh, a few minutes yet. I'll quick do this other thing." Fail 16:02:19 <diablo_rojo> o/ 16:02:27 <smcginnis> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking 16:02:39 <ttx> familiar fail 16:03:04 <smcginnis> Might be a small group today. 16:03:48 <smcginnis> #topic New cores 16:03:58 <diablo_rojo> :D 16:03:59 <smcginnis> I have added diablo_rojo and evrardjp to releases-core. Welcome! 16:04:17 <smcginnis> evrardjp is travelling today for work I believe. 16:04:26 <diablo_rojo> Happy to help :) 16:04:36 <ttx> ~o~ 16:04:54 <smcginnis> diablo_rojo: Have you tried out your fancy +2 powers yet? :) 16:05:44 <diablo_rojo> Yesterday I was tempted but I don't think I did. 16:05:48 <diablo_rojo> Maybe today :) 16:05:53 <hberaud> o/ 16:05:57 <diablo_rojo> I know there are a dozen ish patches to review 16:05:58 <smcginnis> So the plan we discussed is please just +2 only for now. Then in maybe a month (?) we can see how everyone's doing and make sure everyone's comfortable actually approving. 16:06:03 <smcginnis> Hey hberaud! 16:06:13 <diablo_rojo> Works for me :) 16:06:27 <smcginnis> We would also like to get designated review days set up for everyone. 16:07:00 <ttx> ∽o∽ is also a thing 16:07:12 <smcginnis> ttx: I like it. :) 16:07:21 <smcginnis> ttx: Anything to add as far as new cores? 16:07:37 <ttx> nope, great seeing some new faces ! Release management is awesome 16:07:51 <ttx> we'll have critical mass at FOSDEM, too. 16:08:05 <smcginnis> Oh? I was hoping to go to that. Who will be there? 16:08:07 <ttx> we can talk about deposing the despot PTL 16:08:14 <smcginnis> Haha, please do! 16:08:15 <diablo_rojo> Lol 16:08:22 <diablo_rojo> I'll be there 16:08:27 <ttx> diablo_rojo evrardjp and me from the release team 16:08:41 <ttx> + clarkb, ildikov 16:08:49 <smcginnis> Great! Really wish I could have made it. 16:08:58 <ttx> I think mugsie might be in too 16:09:00 <smcginnis> Almost a whole Foundation offsite at this point. :) 16:09:22 <diablo_rojo> Almost all of the foundation eng team 16:09:38 <smcginnis> Anyway, we should set review days, but I'd like to wait until everyone is around before we do that. 16:09:45 <smcginnis> So maybe in a week or two. 16:09:49 <ttx> ++ 16:10:01 <smcginnis> #topic Staffing next week 16:10:09 <ttx> With travel in next two weeks I'll probably have a disrupted review schedule anyway 16:10:11 <mugsie> ttx: I will be at FOSDEM as well 16:10:31 <smcginnis> I noticed a couple of us at least are out next week. 16:10:39 <smcginnis> ttx: You are all week, right? 16:11:03 <ttx> all week next week + Friday the week after 16:11:30 <smcginnis> Next week I will be at a conference. I should be able to be online most of the time, but I'm sure I will have a lot of distractions. 16:12:00 <hberaud> smcginnis: Question: Do you have a tool or a list to be pinged before the release meeting where I can add myself? 16:12:45 <smcginnis> hberaud: We had a ping list on our tracking etherpad, but during the spam wars I think I removed it because freenode was kicking people that looked like they were spamming names. 16:12:55 <smcginnis> Let me readd that since I believe that is no longer the case. 16:13:11 <hberaud> smcginnis: ack 16:13:54 <smcginnis> OK, I've added it on top of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking 16:14:30 <smcginnis> #topic Progress on MembershipFreeze leftovers 16:14:40 <smcginnis> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UChiqxElUV 16:14:41 <ttx> oh me me 16:14:48 <smcginnis> ttx: All yours 16:14:50 <hberaud> smcginnis: nice 16:15:16 <ttx> So... We are almost at the end of the backlog of old things to fix 16:15:23 <openstackgerrit> Frank Kloeker proposed openstack/releases master: Release openstackdocstheme 1.28.2 https://review.openstack.org/631550 16:15:39 <ttx> https://review.openstack.org/631528 will fix heat-cfnclient , https://review.openstack.org/631529 will fix heat-cfntools 16:16:05 <ttx> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/626150/ should fix uncertainty on xstatic things 16:16:23 <ttx> That will leave us with really-new deliverables 16:16:35 <ttx> A bunch of those have been determined to be more independent or train material 16:16:47 <ttx> We only have a couple to clarify 16:16:55 <smcginnis> Lot's of TripleO things in that list. 16:17:17 <ttx> (for our newcomers, the idea here is that at MembershipFreeze we freeze the list of deliverables expected in next release) 16:17:41 <ttx> (that is done by making sure there is a deliverable file for them in stein/) 16:17:55 <ttx> (that way it shows up in our tracking tooling from now on) 16:17:58 <diablo_rojo> Glad my hypothesis was correct :) 16:18:11 <ttx> So there are still 3 unknowns 16:18:23 <ttx> neutron-interconnection, smcginnis was supposed to ask neutron 16:18:39 <ttx> puppet-crane, tobias-urdin is asking dprince for confirmation 16:18:59 <ttx> and that bunch of tripleo new repos that are supposed to be part of a refactoring in progress 16:19:06 <ttx> for which I have no news 16:19:18 <ttx> but maybe EmilienM knows if that will be completed and released in Stein 16:19:48 <ttx> NB: we can still add deliverables at the last minute, but it's more of an exception request than a normal process 16:20:16 <diablo_rojo> Makes sense 16:20:23 <ttx> like if oslo.limit ends up with something useful before the end of the cycle, it's cheap to release it since nothing depends on it yet 16:20:46 <ttx> but otherwise that allows release marketing to prepare messaging 16:20:59 <ttx> Like here, we learnt that Adjutant will probably NOT be in stein 16:21:23 <ttx> so no point in centering release messaging around that 16:21:35 <ttx> or to chase them down at every milestone 16:22:38 <smcginnis> Waiting to hear on neutron-interconnection, but my guess is it will not be part of stein. 16:22:52 <ttx> I think it would be a oslo.limit like case 16:23:00 <ttx> an easy exception 16:23:19 <ttx> anyway, would be great to finally close that list 16:23:44 <smcginnis> The good part for most of these is there isn't much dependency risk. So really the only interesting thing I would think would be Adjutant just as far as being something interesting for marketing reasons. 16:23:55 <ttx> (this is new -- we just used to wing it. So the work this cycle is bigger as there were a bunch of corner cases that we just glossed over in the past) 16:23:57 <smcginnis> But definitely will be nice to clear up that list. 16:24:21 <ttx> (that would lead to weird questions later in the cycle, like "wtf is puppet-crane") 16:24:33 <ttx> (and are we supposed to care about it) 16:24:49 <ttx> (/me uses parenthesis to mentor) 16:24:57 <smcginnis> :) 16:24:58 <ttx> (/me likes parenthesis) 16:25:21 <ttx> take the mike away from me, or I'll start singing. 16:25:22 <smcginnis> OK, any other questions, concerns, comments on that effort? 16:25:28 <diablo_rojo> :) 16:25:33 <diablo_rojo> None from me 16:25:40 <smcginnis> I've seen you sing, that would be fine. :D 16:25:53 <smcginnis> #topic Open floor 16:26:07 <smcginnis> Anyone else have anything to discuss today? 16:26:35 <fungi> nope 16:27:13 <smcginnis> OK, we can wrap up early then. Thanks everyone! 16:27:15 * ttx updated storyboard 16:27:18 <fungi> new gerrit version available for testing at review-dev.openstack.org, hopefully we'll be upgrading to that release real soon 16:27:26 <smcginnis> Ooo 16:27:30 <fungi> (no solid timeframe yet though) 16:27:45 <fungi> and i don't expect it to impact any release tooling 16:28:06 <smcginnis> Still no "f" key shortcut :( 16:28:22 <smcginnis> Was this the version that was supposed to bring us tagging? Or is that a later one? 16:28:47 <smcginnis> I'm not seeing any visible changes with it. 16:28:50 <fungi> well, when i say "new" i mean newer patch release of the 2.13 minor version we're currently running 16:28:57 <smcginnis> Ah, OK. 16:29:11 <fungi> preparation for updating to a newer minor release 16:29:20 <smcginnis> OK, I'll close things out. Thanks again! 16:29:23 <fungi> but we need to be on this newer patch release before we can 16:29:24 <smcginnis> #endmeeting