16:01:57 #startmeeting releaseteam 16:01:58 Meeting started Thu Jan 17 16:01:57 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:01 The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' 16:02:18 "Oh, a few minutes yet. I'll quick do this other thing." Fail 16:02:19 o/ 16:02:27 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking 16:02:39 familiar fail 16:03:04 Might be a small group today. 16:03:48 #topic New cores 16:03:58 :D 16:03:59 I have added diablo_rojo and evrardjp to releases-core. Welcome! 16:04:17 evrardjp is travelling today for work I believe. 16:04:26 Happy to help :) 16:04:36 ~o~ 16:04:54 diablo_rojo: Have you tried out your fancy +2 powers yet? :) 16:05:44 Yesterday I was tempted but I don't think I did. 16:05:48 Maybe today :) 16:05:53 o/ 16:05:57 I know there are a dozen ish patches to review 16:05:58 So the plan we discussed is please just +2 only for now. Then in maybe a month (?) we can see how everyone's doing and make sure everyone's comfortable actually approving. 16:06:03 Hey hberaud! 16:06:13 Works for me :) 16:06:27 We would also like to get designated review days set up for everyone. 16:07:00 ∽o∽ is also a thing 16:07:12 ttx: I like it. :) 16:07:21 ttx: Anything to add as far as new cores? 16:07:37 nope, great seeing some new faces ! Release management is awesome 16:07:51 we'll have critical mass at FOSDEM, too. 16:08:05 Oh? I was hoping to go to that. Who will be there? 16:08:07 we can talk about deposing the despot PTL 16:08:14 Haha, please do! 16:08:15 Lol 16:08:22 I'll be there 16:08:27 diablo_rojo evrardjp and me from the release team 16:08:41 + clarkb, ildikov 16:08:49 Great! Really wish I could have made it. 16:08:58 I think mugsie might be in too 16:09:00 Almost a whole Foundation offsite at this point. :) 16:09:22 Almost all of the foundation eng team 16:09:38 Anyway, we should set review days, but I'd like to wait until everyone is around before we do that. 16:09:45 So maybe in a week or two. 16:09:49 ++ 16:10:01 #topic Staffing next week 16:10:09 With travel in next two weeks I'll probably have a disrupted review schedule anyway 16:10:11 ttx: I will be at FOSDEM as well 16:10:31 I noticed a couple of us at least are out next week. 16:10:39 ttx: You are all week, right? 16:11:03 all week next week + Friday the week after 16:11:30 Next week I will be at a conference. I should be able to be online most of the time, but I'm sure I will have a lot of distractions. 16:12:00 smcginnis: Question: Do you have a tool or a list to be pinged before the release meeting where I can add myself? 16:12:45 hberaud: We had a ping list on our tracking etherpad, but during the spam wars I think I removed it because freenode was kicking people that looked like they were spamming names. 16:12:55 Let me readd that since I believe that is no longer the case. 16:13:11 smcginnis: ack 16:13:54 OK, I've added it on top of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking 16:14:30 #topic Progress on MembershipFreeze leftovers 16:14:40 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UChiqxElUV 16:14:41 oh me me 16:14:48 ttx: All yours 16:14:50 smcginnis: nice 16:15:16 So... We are almost at the end of the backlog of old things to fix 16:15:23 Frank Kloeker proposed openstack/releases master: Release openstackdocstheme 1.28.2 https://review.openstack.org/631550 16:15:39 https://review.openstack.org/631528 will fix heat-cfnclient , https://review.openstack.org/631529 will fix heat-cfntools 16:16:05 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/626150/ should fix uncertainty on xstatic things 16:16:23 That will leave us with really-new deliverables 16:16:35 A bunch of those have been determined to be more independent or train material 16:16:47 We only have a couple to clarify 16:16:55 Lot's of TripleO things in that list. 16:17:17 (for our newcomers, the idea here is that at MembershipFreeze we freeze the list of deliverables expected in next release) 16:17:41 (that is done by making sure there is a deliverable file for them in stein/) 16:17:55 (that way it shows up in our tracking tooling from now on) 16:17:58 Glad my hypothesis was correct :) 16:18:11 So there are still 3 unknowns 16:18:23 neutron-interconnection, smcginnis was supposed to ask neutron 16:18:39 puppet-crane, tobias-urdin is asking dprince for confirmation 16:18:59 and that bunch of tripleo new repos that are supposed to be part of a refactoring in progress 16:19:06 for which I have no news 16:19:18 but maybe EmilienM knows if that will be completed and released in Stein 16:19:48 NB: we can still add deliverables at the last minute, but it's more of an exception request than a normal process 16:20:16 Makes sense 16:20:23 like if oslo.limit ends up with something useful before the end of the cycle, it's cheap to release it since nothing depends on it yet 16:20:46 but otherwise that allows release marketing to prepare messaging 16:20:59 Like here, we learnt that Adjutant will probably NOT be in stein 16:21:23 so no point in centering release messaging around that 16:21:35 or to chase them down at every milestone 16:22:38 Waiting to hear on neutron-interconnection, but my guess is it will not be part of stein. 16:22:52 I think it would be a oslo.limit like case 16:23:00 an easy exception 16:23:19 anyway, would be great to finally close that list 16:23:44 The good part for most of these is there isn't much dependency risk. So really the only interesting thing I would think would be Adjutant just as far as being something interesting for marketing reasons. 16:23:55 (this is new -- we just used to wing it. So the work this cycle is bigger as there were a bunch of corner cases that we just glossed over in the past) 16:23:57 But definitely will be nice to clear up that list. 16:24:21 (that would lead to weird questions later in the cycle, like "wtf is puppet-crane") 16:24:33 (and are we supposed to care about it) 16:24:49 (/me uses parenthesis to mentor) 16:24:57 :) 16:24:58 (/me likes parenthesis) 16:25:21 take the mike away from me, or I'll start singing. 16:25:22 OK, any other questions, concerns, comments on that effort? 16:25:28 :) 16:25:33 None from me 16:25:40 I've seen you sing, that would be fine. :D 16:25:53 #topic Open floor 16:26:07 Anyone else have anything to discuss today? 16:26:35 nope 16:27:13 OK, we can wrap up early then. Thanks everyone! 16:27:15 * ttx updated storyboard 16:27:18 new gerrit version available for testing at review-dev.openstack.org, hopefully we'll be upgrading to that release real soon 16:27:26 Ooo 16:27:30 (no solid timeframe yet though) 16:27:45 and i don't expect it to impact any release tooling 16:28:06 Still no "f" key shortcut :( 16:28:22 Was this the version that was supposed to bring us tagging? Or is that a later one? 16:28:47 I'm not seeing any visible changes with it. 16:28:50 well, when i say "new" i mean newer patch release of the 2.13 minor version we're currently running 16:28:57 Ah, OK. 16:29:11 preparation for updating to a newer minor release 16:29:20 OK, I'll close things out. Thanks again! 16:29:23 but we need to be on this newer patch release before we can 16:29:24 #endmeeting