16:02:27 <ttx> #startmeeting releaseteam 16:02:27 <hberaud> o/ 16:02:27 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Feb 7 16:02:27 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:28 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:31 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' 16:02:37 <smcginnis> Here but also covering a topic at the midcycle. 16:02:38 <dhellmann> o/ 16:03:17 <ttx> Agenda is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking 16:03:30 <ttx> down to R-9 / line 326-ish 16:03:46 <ttx> \I only had a couple of items 16:03:55 <ttx> #topic Assign week tasks 16:04:23 <smcginnis> I can probably handle my tasks tomorrow. 16:04:26 <armstrong> o/ 16:04:27 <ttx> We had a bunch of tasks for this week - I'm not sure if those got done yet, and if not we should probably make sure we assign them 16:04:46 <ttx> smcginnis: for the first two, right ? 16:04:52 <smcginnis> Yep 16:05:09 <smcginnis> Unless someone else is really excited to do them. :) 16:05:09 <ttx> Anyone up for updating PROCESS ? If no volunteers I'll take it 16:05:41 <dhellmann> I'll help with reviews 16:05:58 <hberaud> me too 16:06:20 <ttx> ok, I'll try to do that tomorrow as well 16:06:41 <ttx> any other urgent task needing assignment? 16:07:21 <ttx> #topic Feedback on review days 16:08:02 <ttx> I wanted to ask for any difficulties encountered by our new review-day owners 16:08:18 <ttx> But evrardjp is not here and I think diablo_rojo was traveling on her day this week 16:08:27 <ttx> Still... does anyone have questions, feedback? 16:08:36 <diablo_rojo> I was :/ 16:08:44 <diablo_rojo> Nothing from me for this week. 16:09:03 <diablo_rojo> Next week things should be more normal 16:09:15 <ttx> I feel like that could be a regular topic for our meetings -- making sure we don't let our new reviewers alone 16:09:28 <smcginnis> ++ 16:09:29 <dhellmann> if you're traveling, just let us know (via the tracking etherpad) and we can cover 16:09:30 <ttx> although I encourage to just ask on channel 16:10:18 <ttx> #topic any other business 16:10:47 <diablo_rojo> dhellmann, I'll make sure I do that next time. 16:10:52 <ttx> Next week looks calm enough, we'll probably be focused on processing those model changes that smcginnis will post tomorrow 16:11:06 <ttx> and having the interesting discussions it may trigger 16:11:10 <dhellmann> diablo_rojo :-) 16:11:29 <dhellmann> change is afoot 16:11:44 <ttx> anything else before we close? 16:11:48 <diablo_rojo> I do have one, unrelated to any other topic so far, question 16:11:51 <ttx> ah! 16:11:57 <ttx> I like questions 16:12:10 <diablo_rojo> About when should I start the cat herding process for collecting cycle-highlights? 16:12:31 <diablo_rojo> Was there a like..standard number of weeks before release? 16:12:56 <smcginnis> I think Anne usually started doing that right before RC time. 16:13:03 <ttx> hmm, that should be mentioned in PROCESS... i think there are countdown-email reminders too 16:13:31 <smcginnis> IIRC, I think I would add it to the countdown emails after milestone 3. 16:13:37 <dhellmann> I don't see "highlight" in doc/source/reference/process.rst 16:13:39 <ttx> no mention of highlights in process 16:14:08 <diablo_rojo> If we can decide on a process I can add the highlight info to process :) 16:15:03 <ttx> I feel like it should start around FF time 16:15:09 <dhellmann> a heads-up that it's coming before the RC period and then a reminder during the RC period seems good 16:15:11 <diablo_rojo> So around m3 send reminder that highlights are a thing and that PTLs should start thinking about what they want to add? Is there any setup on our end that needs to happen? 16:15:13 <ttx> In theory the featureset should be complete around then 16:15:32 <dhellmann> diablo_rojo : they just include them in their deliverable file, so there's no extra work to be done 16:15:36 <ttx> RC is more of the deadline to submit them 16:15:47 <diablo_rojo> dhellmann, coolio 16:15:47 <dhellmann> yeah, good point 16:15:48 <ttx> so that the marketing machine can start digesting them into a message 16:15:57 <dhellmann> and documenting the last point at which we care about updates would be good, too 16:16:09 <ttx> So... maybe a reminder a couple of weeks before M3 in the countdown email 16:16:25 <dhellmann> maybe that "last point of caring" is the same as the deadline 16:16:44 <ttx> then actively start chasing them on M3 week, making it clear RC1 is the deadline, even if you can still fix them afterwards 16:17:12 <dhellmann> wfm 16:17:14 <diablo_rojo> Sounds good. 16:17:17 <ttx> diablo_rojo: we don;t really have a "process" so you should probably define it 16:17:25 <ttx> and add it to PROCESS.rst 16:17:37 <ttx> which is no longer capitalized 16:17:44 <smcginnis> I should be able to get the countdown out today and I will mention it's coming so it's on people's radar. 16:17:45 <dhellmann> doc/source/reference/process.rst 16:17:52 * diablo_rojo writes post-it for defining process for cycle highlights to pile of to-do post-its for today 16:18:02 <smcginnis> Just seemed more important when it was all caps. :) 16:18:16 <ttx> It is PROCESS. Follow PROCESS. 16:18:32 <diablo_rojo> Lol smcginnis PROCESS does seem more important 16:19:03 <ttx> anything else? 16:19:14 <smcginnis> Should just mention we had some release failures yesterday. 16:19:22 <smcginnis> That appears to be resolved. 16:19:28 <smcginnis> Just affected doc publishing. 16:19:32 <ttx> yes due to base-jobs split. 16:19:48 <ttx> hmm fungi is missing from the ping list 16:20:04 <smcginnis> Nothing more about it, just thought it would be good to state it happened and is no longer an issue 16:20:14 <ttx> fixed ping list 16:20:21 <fungi> oh,i've been lurking and reading 16:20:41 <ttx> alright, if nothing else, let's all return to the TODO pile 16:20:44 <fungi> it's just been a really busy morning 16:20:55 <ttx> have a great rest-of-week! 16:20:59 <fungi> i have this meeting on my reminders already 16:21:00 <dhellmann> o/ 16:21:11 <ttx> #emdmeeting 16:21:18 * diablo_rojo goes to procure caffeine before swan diving into todo pile 16:21:19 <ttx> #endmeeting