16:00:01 <hberaud> #startmeeting releaseteam
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16:00:05 <ttx> o/
16:00:17 <hberaud> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-relmgt-tracking Agenda
16:00:46 <hberaud> We're way down on line 73 now.
16:00:59 <hberaud> Ping list: ttx armstrong elod
16:01:16 <hberaud> Will just wait a couple minutes for folks.
16:01:31 <elod> o/ (on other meeting, too, but trying to follow here as well :))
16:01:39 <hberaud> :)
16:02:36 <elod> hberaud: thx for the poll, btw, hopefully I'll be at least as useful to worth the meeting time change :)
16:02:37 <hberaud> Fortunatelly next week the meeting time will be rescheduled http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018910.html
16:05:04 <hberaud> well, let's go!
16:05:17 <hberaud> #topic Assign R-20 tasks
16:05:39 <hberaud> Review cycle-trailing projects to check which haven’t released yet.
16:05:58 <hberaud> Any takers?
16:06:26 <hberaud> this task seems obvious
16:06:56 <hberaud> self assigned
16:07:17 <hberaud> next task
16:07:28 <hberaud> Send countdown email, I'm alreaday on it
16:08:09 <ttx> hmm wait
16:08:16 <hberaud> wsure
16:08:18 <hberaud> sure
16:08:21 <ttx> there is no countdown email to send i think
16:08:36 <hberaud> https://releases.openstack.org/reference/process.html#week-before-milestone-1
16:08:42 <hberaud> this one ^
16:08:50 <ttx> right, so you have to send it the week before m-1
16:08:55 <ttx> tat means, next week
16:08:56 <hberaud> we will be the week before m-1
16:09:05 <hberaud> yes
16:09:19 <ttx> so we traditionally reviewed email contents the same week you would send it
16:09:34 <ttx> Like the email is meant to be sent at the end of that week
16:09:40 <hberaud> I was thinking it should be reviewed the week before
16:10:05 <hberaud> ok
16:10:19 <ttx> that's an option... just that when we add stuff to it it's generally last minute
16:10:32 <ttx> like a thing we think at the last minute could be added
16:10:34 <hberaud> make sense
16:10:44 <ttx> it's always been a cause for confusion though
16:10:55 <ttx> email for week N is sent at end of week N-1
16:10:55 <hberaud> so we keep this one for the next week
16:11:36 <ttx> The email content general;ly makes it clearer
16:11:46 <hberaud> ok
16:11:51 <ttx> Like this one says "The $SERIES-1 milestone is next week!"
16:12:03 <ttx> so it should be sent like on Thursday
16:12:21 <ttx> Friday at worst
16:12:25 <hberaud> that what I was planed
16:12:35 <ttx> but sending it on Tuesday could be confusing in some parts of the world
16:12:56 <ttx> so the routine of reviewing on Thursday and sending it just after is imho the best
16:13:08 <hberaud> but I was just thinking review this one a bit earlier
16:13:20 <hberaud> I agree
16:13:28 <hberaud> I missed the last minute things
16:13:35 <hberaud> make sense
16:13:51 <ttx> it's unlikely that we would add anything... I'm actually more concerned that we would accidentally send it after having reviewed it
16:14:11 <ttx> rather than wait for the end of the week after
16:14:19 <hberaud> ack
16:15:05 <hberaud> anything else for task assignment?
16:15:28 <ttx> no that works !
16:15:31 <hberaud> then I think we can move on
16:15:47 <hberaud> #topic open floor
16:16:00 <hberaud> anything else?
16:16:31 <elod> one thing: thanks for reviewing the stein-em patches :)
16:16:53 <elod> hope everythink is now OK with the remaining open ones
16:16:57 <hberaud> As I said early today I think we can move on remaining patches related to stein-em
16:17:07 <ttx> eolthanks for leading this!
16:17:09 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:stein-em+(status:open)
16:17:13 <ttx> elod: ^
16:17:21 <hberaud> elod: thanks to you!
16:17:30 <elod> no problem
16:17:45 <smcginnis> Just a few left with a -1.
16:18:09 <hberaud> yep concerning oslo we are waiting a bit for few important patches
16:18:11 <elod> I saw that neutron had some issue, so let's wait until they fix the last release :)
16:18:17 <hberaud> but they will be merged soon
16:18:50 <slaweq> elod: yes, I will tomorrow work on fix for that issue
16:19:01 <elod> in Oslo I only saw unrelevant patches some weeks ago, are there new ones?
16:19:05 <hberaud> do you think we want to force all the remaning patches at the end of the next week (by example)?
16:19:17 <elod> slaweq: thanks slaweq !
16:19:41 <hberaud> elod: nope, just an import (old) oslo.messaging patch
16:20:08 <elod> hberaud: ack
16:20:30 <smcginnis> Published transition date was the 11th. There will always be more things to backport. At some point we just have to call it done and cut it.
16:20:44 <hberaud> elod: thanks for your investigation on check-approval too
16:20:57 <hberaud> smcginnis: +1
16:21:14 <elod> hberaud: ++, there were no 'real' issues fortunately
16:23:15 <hberaud> then I think we can force all these patches, never mind if the oslo fix will be merged after, isn't a big deal
16:23:29 <hberaud> anything else?
16:24:00 <elod> not anymore from my side :)
16:24:10 <smcginnis> Nothing from me.
16:24:19 <ttx> nothing
16:24:23 <hberaud> OK, thanks everyone. Let's wrap up.
16:24:32 <hberaud> #endmeeting