17:00:09 #startmeeting releaseteam 17:00:10 Meeting started Thu Nov 26 17:00:09 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:12 o/ 17:00:12 Ping list: ttx armstrong elod 17:00:14 The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' 17:00:15 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-relmgt-tracking Agenda 17:00:37 We're way down on line 81 17:00:52 o/ 17:01:01 o/ 17:02:10 Will just wait a couple minutes for folks. 17:03:01 Let's go! 17:03:04 #topic Review task completion 17:03:11 Review cycle-trailing projects to check which haven’t released yet. Done 17:03:15 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/019042.html 17:03:58 A couple of trailing project aren't yet released 17:04:14 That's all for this week 17:04:27 #topic Assign R-19 tasks 17:04:45 Propose autoreleases for cycle-with-intermediary libraries which did not release since the previous release. 17:04:54 Takers? 17:05:56 I have limited availability on that week, would prefer not to drive any task 17:06:06 Sure np, I put myself 17:06:20 happy to help review stuff 17:06:29 I am available for any task 17:06:33 To catch if there are acl issues in newly created repositories, any volunteer? 17:07:03 I can do that 17:07:05 armstrong: maybe you want to manage this one ^ 17:07:17 ttx: as you want 17:07:26 np, but guided if necessary 17:07:54 armstrong: maybe can be done by collaboration with ttx 17:08:08 hmm, if we can do that early in the week yes 17:08:22 ok works for me 17:08:26 armstrong: maybe you try early next week and let me know if you have questions? 17:08:29 ok I let you manage your time together 17:08:53 Like Monday? 17:08:58 sure 17:09:03 ok works 17:09:08 awesome 17:09:22 thanks to you! 17:09:31 #topic Review countdown email contents 17:09:38 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails 17:09:43 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails 17:10:04 Looks like I got all the dates updated. 17:10:30 LGTM 17:10:38 +1 17:10:42 +1 17:10:50 awesome, thanks 17:10:55 #topic stein-em status 17:11:13 So we are near from the end 17:11:37 Only neutron remains out of EM, they encountered a big bug in stein and train and they want to revert the changes who introduced this one and release a last stable stein version free from the bug. They just proposed a latest release 17:11:51 \o/ 17:12:04 thanks for the reviews 17:12:04 I'm waiting for the CI, and if everything is OK I'll fast approve them 17:12:15 I did approve the neutron release 17:12:19 it passed ci ok 17:12:23 awesome 17:12:37 do I need to update the neutron stein-em patch? 17:12:52 ah... they didn't updated the SHA => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/762404 17:12:53 slaweq should be able to lift the -1 on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/762404 very soon 17:12:56 elod: yes 17:12:58 well, I'll update 17:13:09 ++ 17:13:12 good-good, np 17:13:19 elod: thanks and we'll approve 17:13:27 and then we should be able to close by merging https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/762475 17:13:41 YES \o/ :D 17:13:49 :] 17:14:09 Then I think we can move on 17:14:11 I just front-loaded my +2 so you can +a 17:14:14 #topic Redflag IRC notifications 17:14:16 I'm off tomorrow 17:14:29 ttx: ack, thanks 17:14:53 ah oups soory I missed a topic 17:15:00 #topic Status of our previous issue 17:15:17 So everything seems under controle for now 17:15:27 I didn't noticed new issues 17:15:33 nope all good 17:15:54 So as you already know we already restarted approving patches since Wednesday 17:16:06 but I just wanted to be clear 17:16:21 So this is lead us to... 17:16:28 #topic Redflag IRC notifications 17:17:18 How we should handle these kind of failure and how to manage to stop/start to approve patches 17:17:28 ttx: suggested some redflags 17:17:46 sorry, reword: ttx suggested some redflags 17:17:52 two remarks re: proposed plan 17:18:21 To allow us to know when it's safe to approve releases or not 17:18:22 I would not reuse '#topic' since that won't work as expected 17:18:30 yes 17:18:42 Merged openstack/releases master: New neutron release for Stein https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/764289 17:18:51 And i would add a third status (ORANGE) when it's ok to approve one by one and watch for completion before we move to teh next 17:18:57 this is why I submitted an email with "redflag" in the subject 17:19:09 I agree 17:19:15 make sense 17:19:17 We'd always go from RED to GREEN through ORANGE 17:19:34 Yes make sense 17:20:04 I think a highlight is a good idea, the trick is that it does not persist 17:20:18 Also for those who use weechat we can use the "highlight_regex" config as noticed line 102 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-relmgt-tracking 17:20:34 so maybe we should just /topic Releasing status: GREEN 17:20:45 and catch that 17:20:58 Hmmm, I'm using it in my config and it work everytime 17:21:18 it can be persistant 17:21:40 you can put it in your config file 17:21:46 no, I mean 17:22:02 If you are not in the channel and you just join, no way to know 17:22:08 Ah yes 17:22:11 got it 17:22:15 If we use /topic it will persist in the topic 17:22:17 indeed 17:22:24 and you can still have a highlight on it, I think 17:22:32 Also avoids reusing a command that is reserved to meetbot 17:22:48 we can use another word.. like redflag 17:22:58 or something like that 17:23:05 #redflag 17:23:11 The only drawback is that in infra alert cases the topic is rewritten 17:23:25 but I guess that's just another case of RED 17:23:39 since when that happens we probably don;t want to release 17:23:46 yes 17:24:12 So one issue is that during meetings we overwrite the topic 17:24:21 else... another simple approach is to ping all core member directly about this 17:24:43 another issue is that you need chanop to update topic 17:24:43 and also send a redflag email 17:24:59 I see 17:25:03 hmm... yeah that might work better 17:25:20 ok let's start with that 17:25:39 so... pinglist + email for persistence 17:25:45 exact! 17:25:56 ok let's start this way 17:26:04 email: Red, Orange, Green 17:26:18 By modifying the subject 17:26:27 [release] Status: RED - Bla bla 17:26:36 sold! 17:26:53 then we can reply and edit subject to go back to ORANGE and GREEN 17:27:03 exact 17:27:05 to avoid creating 3 threads 17:27:10 exact 17:27:11 sold 17:27:20 awesome :) 17:27:36 then I think we can move on open discussion 17:27:46 #topic Open Discussion 17:27:58 Anything else? 17:28:27 nothing from me this time 17:29:20 ttx what time will best for you on Monday? I want to set my calendar :) 17:30:14 A last thing from my side, I'll try to formalize the previous topic (redflag) in our doc to keep a track 17:30:20 armstrong: 13utc or 15utc 17:30:24 maybe in the reviewer guide 17:30:38 ++ 17:30:45 15 UTC 17:30:47 or some other doc page 17:31:03 armstrong: ok I'll be around, just ping me if you need me 17:31:16 ttx ok 17:31:21 ok let's discuss about it directly on the future patch 17:31:47 OK, thanks everyone. Almost there! 17:31:59 #endmeeting