17:00:06 <hberaud> #startmeeting releaseteam
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17:00:11 <armstrong> o/
17:00:12 <hberaud> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-relmgt-tracking Agenda
17:00:12 <ttx> o/
17:00:16 <hberaud> Ping list: ttx armstrong elod damani
17:00:26 <hberaud> We're way down on line 539 now.
17:00:30 <hberaud> Will just wait a couple minutes for folks.
17:00:50 <elod> o/
17:03:01 <hberaud> #topic Review task completion
17:03:10 <hberaud> So
17:03:15 <hberaud> The majority of our tasks are now done, everything is branched, QA stuffs are branched, and reqs are branched too, every PTLs have been "friendly reminded", we don't have exceptions from last week
17:03:33 <hberaud> I think we can jump directly to...
17:03:52 <hberaud> Release notes links addition (ttx): https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784210
17:04:35 <hberaud> How many time we waited before merging this kind of patch during previous series?
17:05:00 <ttx> I think we can merge it immediately
17:05:01 <hberaud> I see that Sean already approved
17:05:09 <hberaud> and many PTL approved
17:05:12 <hberaud> WFM
17:05:35 <ttx> IIRC there might be another round needed around releases in case other release notes make it
17:05:36 <hberaud> Slawek leave questions
17:05:57 <hberaud> ttx: do you want to answer them before merging?
17:06:11 <hberaud> s/leave/left/
17:06:36 <ttx> I'm not sure what te answer is :)
17:06:46 <hberaud> hm
17:06:48 <hberaud> lol
17:07:06 <hberaud> lot of other deliverable are in the same case
17:07:35 <ttx> The tool is supposed to select the ones that have release notes
17:07:50 <ttx> (afaik)
17:07:54 <hberaud> maybe we need to open a bug
17:08:14 <ttx> maybe we can check how the tool is supposed to work and why it picked empty notes
17:08:16 <ttx> ah
17:08:17 <hberaud> or store that question somewhere to address it ASAP
17:08:24 <hberaud> yes
17:08:32 <ttx> I think it checks for existence of the HTML file
17:08:42 <ttx> not whether the file contains actual info
17:08:47 <hberaud> ah
17:08:53 <hberaud> that could explain why
17:08:56 <ttx> anyway, let's pause and check
17:09:00 <hberaud> yes
17:09:14 <ttx> That patch tends to conflict fast with RC2 requests though
17:09:25 <ttx> so we should clarify fast
17:09:41 <hberaud> yes
17:09:43 <ttx> maybe add a task for it and assign it to me
17:09:50 <hberaud> sold!
17:10:01 <ttx> ok adding it myself, you can continue
17:10:37 <hberaud> ok
17:10:39 <hberaud> thanks
17:11:12 <hberaud> So I think that we can move on directly to the next topic
17:11:34 <hberaud> #topic Assign R-1 tasks
17:11:41 <openstackgerrit> Merged openstack/releases master: Cinder stable/victoria release for os-brick  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784394
17:12:20 <hberaud> done
17:12:41 <hberaud> I put my name everywhere
17:12:56 <armstrong> hberaud:  great!
17:12:56 <ttx> +1
17:13:18 <ttx> we don;t have any stable branching exception left right
17:13:28 <hberaud> yes
17:14:00 <hberaud> #topic Review countdown email contents
17:14:11 <hberaud> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
17:15:10 <ttx> LGTM
17:15:16 <hberaud> I didn't find the summit date on openinfra site, that's normal?
17:15:28 <fungi> i don't think it's been scheduled yet?
17:15:31 <hberaud> even if it will be virtual
17:15:40 <hberaud> ok
17:15:46 <hberaud> no idea
17:15:46 <fungi> also remember they've switched to yearly
17:16:09 <hberaud> ah yes
17:16:21 <hberaud> so next summit will be in october
17:16:31 <fungi> probably, or around then
17:16:35 <armstrong> but the next events is coming up soon right? Or only PTG?
17:17:07 <hberaud> armstrong: Yes PTG is on the week of April 19.
17:17:13 <fungi> ptg yes. i think the events team has some other ideas for event-ish things too
17:17:24 <fungi> but nothing nailed down yet
17:17:39 <hberaud> ack
17:17:57 <hberaud> ok next topic
17:18:02 <hberaud> #topic openstack-ansible-roles is tagged/branched late, and yet it's not "trailing". Should it be?
17:18:40 <ttx> I have no idea why it's not trailing
17:18:40 <hberaud> So, I proposed a patch to stick the OSA parent project deliverable type
17:18:52 <ttx> maybe OSA folks know :)
17:18:57 <fungi> i had thought all deployment projects were cycle-trailing, honestly
17:19:04 <hberaud> I didn't see reason to not be trailing there
17:19:10 <hberaud> me too
17:19:12 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784378
17:19:35 <hberaud> whois yoctozepto
17:19:45 * yoctozepto is me
17:19:47 <hberaud> lol
17:19:56 <ttx> no I'm yoctozepto!
17:19:58 <fungi> he's not wrong
17:20:06 <yoctozepto> lol
17:20:09 <hberaud> any idea ^
17:20:24 <ttx> I think it really does not matter
17:20:30 <ttx> trailing is more accurate imho
17:20:40 <ttx> would avoid it shoewing up in reports
17:20:48 <hberaud> ok
17:20:51 <fungi> i guess the question is whether yoctozepto knows why osa is not cycle-trailing like other deployment projects, but trails the cycle
17:21:06 <fungi> but regardless, sounds like it should be switched to cycle-trailing
17:21:43 <yoctozepto> no idea, I work on kolla, we are in friendly relations with other deployment projects though (/me fixing docs links and such)
17:22:02 <hberaud> yoctozepto: ok np
17:22:03 <yoctozepto> I agree osa should be marked appropriately ;-)
17:22:49 <hberaud> ok let's wait for OSA team feedback
17:23:01 <yoctozepto> noonedeadpunk ^
17:25:08 <hberaud> ok let's discuss that point directly on the patch
17:25:13 <ttx> yeah not urgent
17:25:16 <hberaud> thanks everyone
17:25:18 <hberaud> #topic devstack-plugin-* are tagless and escape process every cycle.
17:25:22 <hberaud> We should fix process to remember to branch them as we branch devstack
17:25:47 <hberaud> I started a thread about the oslo part of this puzzle => http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-April/021513.html
17:26:12 <hberaud> The QA team said that usually devstack-plugin-* are branchless too
17:26:40 <hberaud> but that depends on if plugin needs specific config or not
17:27:38 <hberaud> From the oslo point of view we don't think that we need special config so no reason to branch anymore
17:27:44 <hberaud> However
17:27:59 <hberaud> I proposed a last branch for Victoria
17:28:07 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784371
17:28:34 <hberaud> and I proposed to remove these deliverable on wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784376
17:29:37 <hberaud> bnemec said that " I guess when we chose to stop branching them we didn't realize we needed to remove the deliverable files completely."
17:30:16 <hberaud> I also proposed a patch to update our process if we decide to keep them around => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784103
17:30:27 <fungi> makes sense that there's no point in the release managers tracking a deliverable which does not get tagged or branched
17:30:44 <hberaud> But if we stop branch them I'll update that patch to drop that section
17:31:17 <ttx> ok
17:31:32 <hberaud> The main question is
17:31:41 <hberaud> Do we want to branch for Victoria?
17:32:22 <hberaud> If we don't address the victoria part that will leave an inconsistence
17:32:26 <hberaud> So
17:32:40 <hberaud> Either we branch it or we drop these file too
17:32:52 <hberaud> Any opinion?
17:33:11 <elod> is there a reason not to drop?
17:33:21 <hberaud> Nope
17:33:32 <hberaud> Nobody complained until now
17:34:06 <hberaud> Ok I'll update the Victoria part to drop these files
17:34:14 <hberaud> and drop the process section
17:34:14 <elod> then I guess we can drop them and ask bnemec for a final ACK? :)
17:34:22 <hberaud> LGTM
17:35:47 <hberaud> So I think that we can move on
17:35:55 <bnemec> Technically you need hberaud's ack since he's the release liaison. ;-)
17:36:23 <elod> oh, then it's even better :)
17:36:26 <hberaud> Yes I need to update my email due to the recent gerrit changes
17:36:58 <hberaud> This is why it didn't have been PTL approved yet
17:37:08 <hberaud> Thanks bnemec
17:37:11 <bnemec> I commented on the reviews though.
17:37:22 <hberaud> Yes thanks
17:37:47 <hberaud> #topic Open Floor
17:38:03 <hberaud> Anything else to discuss today?
17:38:18 <ttx> no! Dinenr awaits
17:38:22 <ttx> Dinner even
17:38:27 <hberaud> Bon appétit
17:38:38 <elod> bon appétit :)
17:38:44 <ttx> thanks hberaud ! Almost there!
17:38:45 <hberaud> Same thing here
17:39:00 <hberaud> Just one thing
17:39:18 <hberaud> Don't forget to vote for the next meeting time
17:39:41 <armstrong> vote for what?
17:40:18 <hberaud> The next meeting time => https://doodle.com/poll/ip6tg4fvznz7p3qx
17:40:44 <hberaud> That's all for me
17:40:53 <armstrong> ok
17:41:12 <hberaud> Ok thanks everyone for joining
17:41:23 <hberaud> And enjoy your dinner
17:41:25 <elod> o/
17:41:40 <hberaud> Let's wrap up.
17:41:45 <hberaud> #endmeeting