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14:00:11 <hberaud> Ping list: elodilles armstrong
14:00:12 <elodilles> o/
14:00:16 <hberaud> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/xena-relmgt-tracking
14:00:23 <hberaud> We're way down on line 305 now.
14:00:41 <hberaud> Will just wait a couple minutes for folks.
14:01:05 <ttx> o/
14:01:07 <diablo_rojo_phone> O/
14:02:00 <hberaud> #topic Review task completion
14:02:43 <hberaud> cycle-highlights: Done by Helena https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522xena-milestone-3%2522+(status:open)
14:02:52 <hberaud> Wrong link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-August/024535.html
14:03:21 <hberaud> For now only few teams proposed cycle-highlights
14:04:04 <hberaud> And all these patches are now merged
14:04:37 <opendevreview> Brian Rosmaita proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-cinderclient for Xena  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/806583
14:04:43 <hberaud> Next task was "release cycle-with-intermediary client libraries"
14:04:50 <hberaud> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522xena-milestone-3%2522+(status:open)
14:05:07 <hberaud> We only wait for cinder
14:05:27 <hberaud> I don't think that we will get reply from cloudkitty and mistral
14:05:55 <hberaud> so ttx, elodilles please can you double check these patches and I'll approve them (cloudkitty and mistral)
14:06:09 <ttx> looking now
14:06:11 <elodilles> (and cinder is there I guess ^^^)
14:06:19 <hberaud> Ah yes
14:06:29 <hberaud> I need glasses
14:06:33 <elodilles> :]
14:06:45 <hberaud> (or rest)
14:06:55 <elodilles> you must have been busy with the summary :)
14:07:34 <ttx> re: cycle highlights it would br great to have more very soon, as we start working on messaging
14:07:37 <hberaud> let's wait for CI with cinder
14:07:49 <ttx> maybe we could insist again in the weekly email
14:07:58 <hberaud> ttx: then I'll send another reminder
14:08:10 <hberaud> ah yes good idea
14:08:34 <hberaud> Then let's append this to the countdown email
14:10:03 <ttx> +1
14:10:37 <ttx> then maybe helena or diablo_rojo can do another email early next week with another reminder
14:10:43 <hberaud> +1
14:10:49 <hberaud> can't hurt
14:11:40 <hberaud> Next task was "Evaluate any libraries that did not have any change merged over the cycle to see if it is time to transition them to the independent release model."
14:11:44 <hberaud> elodilles: This one was yours, do you want to bring something about this?
14:12:23 <elodilles> yes, so i've gone through the patches ( https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:xena-final-non-client-libs )
14:12:43 <elodilles> and found 2 release with very little content:
14:12:51 <elodilles> * ceilometermiddleware - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/804657
14:12:54 <elodilles> * monasca-statsd - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/804665
14:13:12 <hberaud> indeed
14:13:46 <elodilles> and the content were generated patches only
14:14:19 <elodilles> should I propose a release model change patches for them?
14:14:26 <ttx> hmm
14:14:28 <hberaud> Next cyle
14:14:38 <ttx> re: monasca it's better to keep the lot at the same level if we can
14:14:58 <ttx> re:ceilomiddleware that may be a god candidate yes (next cycle)
14:15:04 <ttx> good*
14:15:21 <hberaud> I would argue that we could simply note them under our "things to change" and then check in few weeks at the begining of Y
14:15:26 <ttx> +1
14:16:19 <hberaud> Done
14:16:21 <elodilles> sound like a plan
14:16:24 <hberaud> I added them
14:16:41 <elodilles> just a silly question, where are the "things to change" thingy? o:)
14:16:59 <hberaud> at the bottom of the page
14:17:01 <elodilles> oh, i found it
14:17:08 <elodilles> thx
14:17:13 <hberaud> yw
14:17:27 <hberaud> So
14:17:35 <hberaud> Next task was "List cycle-with-intermediary deliverables that have not been released yet and send a separate email targeted to teams with such unreleased deliverables"
14:17:53 <hberaud> I started a ML thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-August/024534.html
14:18:18 <hberaud> Some of these teams released something immediately
14:18:26 <ttx> I guess requirements is a special case there
14:18:33 <hberaud> Yes
14:18:38 <ttx> same for patrole/tempest
14:18:58 <hberaud> indeed
14:19:03 <ttx> python-openstackclient should have been caught in the recent client lib freeze, no?
14:19:08 <hberaud> Yes
14:20:31 <hberaud> I updated the list http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-September/024583.html
14:20:32 <ttx> we force-release those on R-3 if there is no answer
14:20:44 <hberaud> ok WFM
14:20:53 <ttx> "On the Monday, generate release requests for all deliverables that have do not have a suitable candidate yet."
14:21:04 <ttx> so this is more of a warning
14:21:10 <hberaud> Yes
14:21:36 <hberaud> And the last item was "On Friday, remind the requirements team to freeze changes to openstack/requirements by applying -2 to all open patches."
14:22:24 <hberaud> So at this point I'll start to applying -2 to the requirements patches that doesn't fit our policy
14:22:41 <hberaud> And that's all for task completion
14:23:14 <hberaud> One last thing
14:23:21 <hberaud> Please review the cinder patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/806583
14:23:30 <hberaud> gates are done
14:24:21 <ttx> lgtm
14:24:34 <hberaud> reno suggested a major version
14:24:47 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/releases master: Release final python-mistralclient for Xena  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/806590
14:24:47 <elodilles> reno suggests major version bump due to upgrade notes
14:24:49 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/releases master: Release final python-cloudkittyclient for Xena  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/806584
14:25:08 <hberaud> "he python-cinderclient no longer supports version 2 of the Block Storage API.  The last version of the python-cinderclient supporting that API is the 7.x series."
14:25:18 <hberaud> let's check these changes
14:25:25 <ttx> hah hm
14:25:38 <elodilles> though the 7.x version seems interesting
14:26:17 <ttx> well that means the 8.x is the brak
14:26:21 <ttx> break
14:26:22 <elodilles> is it just an updated release note from the previous release?
14:26:29 <ttx> not the 8.1 bump
14:26:47 <ttx> So I'd say we're good
14:26:59 <hberaud> yes you are right
14:27:10 <elodilles> if that was the intention, then probably yes
14:27:12 <ttx> accidentally right, but yes
14:27:22 <hberaud> it come from the previous release
14:27:38 <opendevreview> Maysa de Macedo Souza proposed openstack/releases master: Add Kuryr Xena highlights  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/807340
14:27:42 <hberaud> So we don't need a major version
14:28:14 <hberaud> Works for you?
14:28:31 <ttx> +1
14:28:39 <hberaud> Sold
14:29:35 <hberaud> ignition
14:29:49 <hberaud> #topic Assign R-4 tasks
14:30:04 <fungi> related, it's interesting to see the client libs dropping support for older api versions, but i suppose if people need to interact with older deployments they can use openstacksdk
14:30:08 <gmann> hberaud: ttx elodilles ack on patrole/tempest release. I am on it few fixes are pending but will do before deadline.
14:30:27 <hberaud> gmann: thanks
14:30:35 <hberaud> no rush
14:31:04 <hberaud> "List cycle-with-intermediary deliverables that have not been refreshed in the last 2 months." Any volunteer?
14:31:11 <ttx> on it
14:31:15 <hberaud> Thanks
14:31:25 <hberaud> Thanks armstrong
14:31:30 <armstrong> Welcome
14:31:46 <hberaud> #topic Review countdown email contents
14:31:54 <hberaud> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
14:32:47 <armstrong> ttx when will you be available for
14:32:52 <armstrong> The task?
14:32:57 <ttx> armstrong: not sure yet
14:33:06 <hberaud> ttx: a cycle-highlight section already exist at the bottom of the email
14:33:10 <armstrong> Ok keep me posted
14:33:12 <hberaud> (a reminder)
14:33:29 <ttx> ok good
14:33:40 <ttx> it's almost as if people were late before
14:33:48 <hberaud> lol
14:34:45 <armstrong> :)
14:36:13 <ttx> email lgtm
14:36:22 <hberaud> ty
14:37:43 <hberaud> sent
14:37:56 <hberaud> #topic Open Floor
14:38:13 <hberaud> Anything else to discuss today
14:38:15 <hberaud> ?
14:38:18 <elodilles> (a bit late, but the mail lgtm too)
14:38:25 <hberaud> ty
14:38:31 <ttx> nothing extra to discuss
14:38:40 <elodilles> neither from me
14:38:41 <hberaud> +1
14:39:37 <hberaud> armstrong: I'll ping you on monday afternoon (around 2pm UTC), is it works for you?
14:39:51 <armstrong> Yes
14:39:54 <hberaud> Excellent
14:40:14 <hberaud> Thanks everyone for joining.
14:40:20 <hberaud> See you next week
14:40:21 <armstrong> Thanks
14:40:27 <ttx> thanks hberaud !
14:40:29 <hberaud> #endmeeting