14:01:08 <elodilles> #startmeeting releaseteam
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14:01:15 <elodilles> Ping list: hberaud ttx armstrong damani
14:01:17 <ttx> o/
14:01:25 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yoga-relmgt-tracking
14:01:56 <elodilles> we are at line 392 waaaay down
14:02:03 <elodilles> o/
14:02:06 <hberaud> o/
14:02:26 <damani> hi
14:02:43 <prometheanfire> o/
14:05:09 <elodilles> good to see so many of you :) let's start with the 1st topic
14:05:21 <elodilles> #topic Review task completion
14:05:33 <elodilles> 1st task was:
14:05:37 <elodilles> 'Process any remaining stable branching exception.'
14:05:58 <hberaud> done
14:06:07 <hberaud> empty list
14:06:11 <elodilles> \o/
14:06:14 <elodilles> thanks hberaud
14:06:20 <elodilles> next task:
14:06:33 <elodilles> 'Process any remaining tempest patches exception.'
14:06:50 <elodilles> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:yoga-tp-latest+status:open
14:07:05 <elodilles> we have here two tempest plugin still open
14:07:06 <hberaud> so only monasca remains here...
14:07:26 <hberaud> the ironic part only needs another +2
14:07:34 <elodilles> hberaud: yes, the other needs a 2nd +2+W only :]
14:07:54 <hberaud> However I didn't get replies from the monasca team...
14:07:58 <elodilles> hopefully monasca will be PTL-approved soon as well
14:08:30 <hberaud> Also I didn't find the patches that they spoke about in their comments
14:08:39 <elodilles> should we set a deadline there?
14:08:49 <hberaud> I'd say yes
14:09:12 <ttx> hmm how about we approve it now
14:09:20 <hberaud> +1
14:09:23 * ttx checks
14:09:36 <armstrong> o/
14:09:52 <hberaud> I think we enough waited
14:09:58 <elodilles> armstrong: o/
14:10:16 <elodilles> the hash is still the tip of the branch
14:10:24 <ttx> yeah they can do a 2.5.0 at the last minute but we need one now
14:10:25 <hberaud> cool
14:10:36 <hberaud> so fire
14:10:39 <ttx> just approved ironic
14:11:16 <ttx> and +2ed monasca
14:12:22 <elodilles> and +2+W'd monasca
14:12:43 <elodilles> thanks
14:12:57 <elodilles> next task:
14:13:08 <elodilles> 'Notify the documentation (Technical Writing SIG - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation) team that it should be safe to apply their process to create the new release series landing pages for docs.openstack.org.'
14:13:13 <elodilles> this was on me
14:13:35 <elodilles> unfortunately this was an issue last time as well
14:13:55 <elodilles> as there is no active member of the team anymore
14:14:10 <elodilles> as I tracked down TC took over the responsibility
14:14:46 <fungi> stephenfin might be willing?
14:15:27 <elodilles> what i found is that these are the patches that we need: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/openstack-manuals+topic:yoga
14:16:22 <elodilles> anyway, i planned to propose these patches for zed today but ran out of time before the meeting :/ sorry :/
14:16:30 <elodilles> i'll do that after the meeting
14:16:37 <elodilles> and ping the TC as well
14:17:34 <elodilles> fungi: i don't know whether stephenfin is around, besides he said last occasion that he stepped down from documentation SIG
14:17:38 <ttx> i think it's fine as long as we have them before release day
14:17:49 <elodilles> ttx: ++
14:18:09 <fungi> yeah, he's still been pitching in here and there, i agree it's a long shot
14:18:53 <fungi> reaching out to the tc about it is definitely the next step anwyay
14:18:57 <elodilles> anyway, it's on my TODO :)
14:19:09 <elodilles> fungi: ++
14:19:53 <elodilles> ok, next task then:
14:20:07 <elodilles> 'On the day before the deadline for final release candidates, propose last-minute RCs where needed.'
14:20:17 <elodilles> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:yoga-final-rc
14:20:26 <elodilles> hberaud proposed the patches ^^^
14:20:31 <ttx> sahara is left
14:20:37 <opendevreview> Martin Kopec proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-testr 3.0.0  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/835197
14:20:50 <hberaud> those without response should be abandoned
14:21:09 <elodilles> then we can abandon
14:21:10 <ttx> I was actually wondering
14:21:18 <ttx> 02235e6c Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/yoga
14:21:21 <ttx> 9bbf339e Update .gitreview for stable/yoga
14:21:27 <ttx> Those look like things we kinda need to have
14:21:28 <elodilles> and after the final release, a stable release can be made if necessary
14:21:34 <ttx> but I'm surprised they did not make it to rc1
14:22:04 <hberaud> ttx: why we need them?
14:22:09 <elodilles> ttx: .gitreview and TOX_CONSTRAINTS are generated after the stable/yoga cut,
14:22:17 <ttx> ah
14:22:18 <hberaud> I think those  can be ignored
14:22:24 <elodilles> which is usually together with RC1
14:22:32 <hberaud> I selected sahara because a fix was landed
14:22:34 <ttx> ha right
14:22:43 <ttx> ok then abandon agree
14:22:47 <hberaud> but I ingored all the other deliverables with just this kind of patch
14:23:02 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/releases master: Release ironic-tempest-plugin for Yoga  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/833576
14:23:05 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-tempest-plugin for Yoga  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/833585
14:23:07 <hberaud> WFM
14:24:09 <elodilles> I remember that some projects had problems when these patches were not released, but to tell the truth these are the patches that quite many projects don't release at all after their final release is out
14:24:52 <hberaud> yes this can raise issue on the long time
14:25:08 <elodilles> so as hberaud says: we have multiple deliverables that have only this changes after RC1 and usually there weren't RC2 for them in the past
14:25:12 <elodilles> afaik :]
14:25:35 <elodilles> anyway, for now I think it's OK to abandon it
14:25:41 <hberaud> yes
14:25:51 <ttx> +1
14:25:55 <elodilles> and sahara can decide to do stable release after March 30th
14:26:25 <hberaud> yes
14:27:06 <elodilles> done
14:27:13 <elodilles> i've abandoned it
14:27:53 <elodilles> so this task is also done \o/
14:28:39 <elodilles> the next tasks are the countdown email review and...
14:28:43 <elodilles> ... After the email is sent, use propose-final-releases to tag the existing most recent release candidates as the final release for projects using the cycle-with-rc model
14:28:56 <elodilles> so I'll do that after the meeting :)
14:29:05 <ttx> yeah those are Friday tasks :)
14:29:29 <elodilles> any comment questions for the completed tasks?
14:29:38 <elodilles> ttx: exactly :]
14:30:15 <elodilles> if no, then let's continue with the next topic:
14:30:27 <elodilles> #topic Assign R+0 week tasks
14:30:36 <ttx> I'd say it's an "all" task list
14:30:39 <elodilles> this is an exciting one :)
14:30:42 <ttx> with elodilles in the driver seat
14:30:55 <ttx> I just separated review guidelines from tasks
14:30:56 <elodilles> ttx: ack
14:31:30 <elodilles> yepp, please stick to the guidlines for the next week :)
14:31:32 <ttx> hberaud: you won;t be around right
14:31:40 <hberaud> good question
14:31:46 <hberaud> I'm not yet fully sure
14:31:55 <ttx> OK I'll be around in support
14:31:56 <hberaud> I prefered to say that I'll be away
14:32:07 <hberaud> but maybe I'll be there too
14:32:15 <hberaud> I'll confirm monday
14:32:24 <ttx> Might have a few hour-long breaks as I navigate other things, but fully available in the morning
14:32:32 <elodilles> hberaud: ack
14:32:40 <fungi> i plan to be on hand for the release activities in case anything infrastructure-related comes up, though i have an appointment to get to afterward and will likely disappear around 15:30 utc
14:32:57 <ttx> fungi: how early can we start?
14:33:05 <elodilles> fungi: thanks in advance
14:33:25 <elodilles> the critical is I'd say Wednesday and release timing :)
14:33:53 <fungi> i can start as early as folks want
14:34:00 <ttx> Trying to remember when the approval button needs to be pressed, IIRC it was around 12UTC
14:34:08 <ttx> or 11:30UTC
14:34:29 <fungi> i'll be awake by then for sure
14:34:45 <ttx> so that it's fully done long before 15UTC
14:35:09 <elodilles> yeah, everything should be started well before 15UTC as I remember
14:35:14 <ttx> OK let's plan to all be around at 1130UTC for the go/nogo
14:35:45 <ttx> elodilles: that's 13:30 CEST with the time change next week
14:36:07 <fungi> sounds good to me
14:36:20 <elodilles> ttx: yes-yes, DST is in the way as well :)
14:37:11 <elodilles> I'll be around all day so that shouldn't be a problem :)
14:37:38 <elodilles> hberaud: if you have any interesting thing in your mind that is good to remember regarding the release then please ping me with it :)
14:38:02 <hberaud> ack
14:38:08 <ttx> Just confirmed that 15UTC is good
14:38:17 <elodilles> ttx: ack, thanks!
14:38:26 <hberaud> normally every useful info are in our process
14:38:39 <elodilles> hberaud: that's true :)
14:40:30 <elodilles> good, so everything is agreed then
14:40:36 <ttx> ++
14:40:37 <elodilles> anything else to mention?
14:40:43 <hberaud> nope
14:41:09 <elodilles> then let's move on to the next topic
14:41:16 <elodilles> #topic Review countdown email contents
14:41:24 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
14:41:33 <elodilles> please review ^^^^
14:42:10 <elodilles> in the template there was 'we would appreciate having an ack from each team before we
14:42:15 <elodilles> approve it on the 16th'
14:42:25 <elodilles> i guess that should be 30th
14:42:27 <elodilles> hmmm
14:42:31 <elodilles> or maybe 29th?
14:43:06 <ttx> 30th
14:43:13 <ttx> we approve it on the 30th
14:43:34 <elodilles> ok, then it's good as it is \o/
14:45:09 <ttx> all good
14:45:13 <hberaud> LGTM
14:45:15 <ttx> Did a few changes
14:45:26 <ttx> (like new URL for PTGbot)
14:45:27 <elodilles> ttx: saw that, thanks!
14:45:55 <elodilles> OK
14:46:01 <elodilles> then last topic:
14:46:19 <elodilles> #topic Open Discussion
14:46:35 <ttx> I was wondering if we needed a meeting next week
14:46:47 <ttx> We could do the release postmortem at PTG
14:46:52 <hberaud> +1
14:46:58 <ttx> and not sure we need to prep for PTG that much
14:47:08 <elodilles> ttx: sounds good to me
14:47:19 <elodilles> btw, PTG etherpad is there:
14:47:23 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/april2022-ptg-rel-mgt
14:47:33 <ttx> Cool will copy topics over
14:47:34 <elodilles> I only added the template yet
14:47:43 <elodilles> ttx: cool, thanks!
14:47:54 <elodilles> i saw that you started to collect things in the tracking page
14:49:15 <elodilles> feel free to add there topics if you have one
14:49:36 <elodilles> anything else that we forgot?
14:50:42 <elodilles> or any other topic? :)
14:51:27 <ttx> nothing here
14:52:20 <hberaud> nope
14:52:23 <fungi> i got nuthin'
14:52:24 <elodilles> prometheanfire: thanks for the requirements freeze lift mail!
14:52:28 <elodilles> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-March/027834.html
14:52:31 <elodilles> \o/
14:53:26 <elodilles> good. if nothing left for today, then let's close the meeting!
14:53:42 <elodilles> thanks everyone for the help & participation!
14:54:05 <elodilles> #endmeeting