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14:00:22 <elodilles> Ping list: hberaud armstrong elodilles
14:00:23 <hberaud> o/
14:00:33 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/antelope-relmgt-tracking
14:01:12 <elodilles> we are somewhere around the middle, at line 154
14:01:14 <ttx> o/
14:01:16 <elodilles> o/
14:01:35 <elodilles> let's start \o/
14:01:45 <elodilles> #topic Review task completion
14:02:05 <elodilles> 1st topic was
14:02:18 <elodilles> #info Push Mistral situation to TC through a governance patch (elod)
14:02:22 <elodilles> mail was sent
14:02:29 <elodilles> https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-December/031388.html
14:02:56 <elodilles> and it started a discussion and now it seems Mistral will have maintainers! \o/
14:03:34 <elodilles> i guess we can keep mistral in Antelope's deliverables
14:03:46 <hberaud> WFM
14:04:10 <elodilles> but maybe we can postpone this discussion to another point in the agande
14:04:44 <elodilles> #info 2nd task: follow and check the Zed trailing projects patches (https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:zed-trailing-branch-cut) (all)
14:05:17 <elodilles> as I see kolla deliverables branched today
14:05:34 <elodilles> kayobe, osa and cinderlib remained
14:05:39 <hberaud> 2nd and 3rd tasks are more or less the same
14:05:41 <elodilles> to next week
14:05:47 <ttx> I did send teh remidner
14:05:57 <elodilles> yepp, you are right
14:06:12 <elodilles> Prepare Zed cycle trailing, deadline is next week
14:06:19 <elodilles> Send a friendly reminder (ttx)
14:06:30 <elodilles> this was sent as ttx said ^^^
14:06:46 <elodilles> 'Propose patches to release trailing deliverables (elod)'
14:06:51 <elodilles> all patches were proposed in R-18 week's task
14:07:07 <elodilles> so yes, I think we covered this
14:07:51 <elodilles> I also pinged the PTLs/release liaisons via the patch
14:08:04 <elodilles> anything to add here?
14:09:26 <elodilles> seems not, so we are done with this topic
14:09:35 <elodilles> #topic Assign next week tasks
14:09:49 <elodilles> as I see we have a single task: Review any remaining trailing project exceptions
14:09:57 <elodilles> I guess we can add 'all' to this
14:11:08 <elodilles> (I've added 'all' :))
14:11:21 <hberaud> agree
14:11:22 <elodilles> #topic Review countdown email
14:11:41 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
14:11:45 <elodilles> please review ^^^
14:12:44 <elodilles> the only tricky part i think is the 'will be proposed to switch to the cycle-with-rc model'. I've added a note for that.
14:12:49 <hberaud> LGTM
14:12:56 <opendevreview> Tobias Urdin proposed openstack/releases master: [xena] Release Magnum 13.0.1  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/867111
14:13:13 <elodilles> hberaud: thx
14:14:05 <ttx> LGTM, added final release date as it's always good to talk about it
14:14:16 <elodilles> ttx: ++
14:14:45 <elodilles> #topic 2023.1 component changes - Adjutant out? - Mistral in?
14:15:20 <elodilles> so we have volunteers for Mistral
14:15:39 <elodilles> and as I saw there were discussions in TC meeting about Adjutant
14:16:55 <elodilles> + gmann proposed a patch for clarification about the timing of such (inactive) projects: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/867062
14:17:03 <ttx> Re: Adjutant I would keep them if they reply to their releaase reviews around antelope-2
14:17:27 <ttx> that makes a good check
14:17:37 <ttx> same for mistral really
14:17:38 <elodilles> sounds good to me too
14:18:03 <ttx> they might need our help to untangle any stuck job though
14:18:13 <ttx> so probably something we should start looking into soon
14:18:29 <elodilles> maybe the general 'release mail introduction' email can be sent to the new maintainers / PTLs
14:18:45 <elodilles> ttx: ack
14:19:17 <hberaud> good idea
14:19:40 <ttx> ++
14:20:06 <elodilles> so Antelope-2 is Jan 5th
14:20:26 <ttx> yeah, maybe something we should look into next week
14:20:41 <elodilles> ttx: ++
14:20:41 <ttx> like just looking if the jobs seem to be working
14:20:56 <ttx> and if not what's the error messages etc
14:21:29 <elodilles> yepp
14:21:43 <elodilles> (especially as I'll be mostly off for last two weeks of december)
14:22:34 <hberaud> same thing for me
14:22:42 <ttx> same
14:23:12 <elodilles> oh, nice :)
14:23:27 <elodilles> then it'll be a quiet period :)
14:24:43 <elodilles> should we add a task for next week about the 'check state of Adjutant/Mistral' as a reminder?
14:25:33 <hberaud> can't hurt
14:27:31 <elodilles> I've added all to this one as well
14:28:09 <elodilles> i mean: i've added the task to R-14 and marked as task for 'all'
14:28:39 <hberaud> ack
14:28:42 <elodilles> anything else to mention here?
14:28:47 <hberaud> nope
14:29:31 <ttx> no
14:29:42 <elodilles> #topic Open Discussion
14:29:55 <elodilles> maybe one patch to mention here:
14:30:12 <elodilles> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/866961
14:30:41 <elodilles> in the past we had a discussion with Kolla team about their monthly releases,
14:31:23 <elodilles> and we agreed that they always bump MINOR versions, even though it doesn't follow then semver
14:31:51 <hberaud> ok
14:31:59 <hberaud> sorry I don't remember that point
14:32:03 <hberaud> approved
14:32:11 <fungi> seems like the release jobs haven't been significantly impacted by the various tox v4 backward incompatibilities and behavior changes, but probably worth keeping tabs on the discussion in the ml
14:32:58 <elodilles> hberaud: thx. yepp, exceptions are hard to remember. maybe we could document somehow these things
14:33:08 <hberaud> yeah
14:33:35 <ttx> semver is weird for the deployment things anyway
14:33:36 <elodilles> fungi: ack
14:33:38 <fungi> in particular, the zuul maintainers are preparing to remove the temporary tox<4 cap in the ensure-tox role on december 21, so might want to be careful with any initial release approvals after that date and we can implement more direct tox version overrides where necessary
14:34:02 <elodilles> fungi: have you seen any release job (meaning you mentioned 'significant' :))
14:34:29 <elodilles> * failure
14:34:56 <fungi> i have not, so was trying to say that if there were issues they either didn't get exposed for the brief period of time between the v4 release and the addition of the cap in ensure-tox, or they weren't severe enough to come to my attention at least
14:35:12 <elodilles> ttx: yepp, exactly
14:35:48 <elodilles> fungi: ah, i see.
14:36:08 <fungi> but also trying to be mindful of the fact that some release tasks rely on running things with tox using the individual projects' tox configs i think, so this could still result in inconsistent problems depending on those configs
14:36:29 <elodilles> fungi: maybe we can try to do a test release with 'release-test' repo somewhere after Dec 21
14:36:41 <fungi> that's a good idea, at a minimum
14:38:56 <elodilles> also, some test on local env with tox 4 could be good
14:39:10 <fungi> yes
14:40:06 <opendevreview> Riccardo Pittau proposed openstack/releases master: Release sushy 4.4.1 for antelope  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/867115
14:40:36 <elodilles> i'll try to look into this, but feel free to do the same :) more eyes & tests may catch issues if there are any
14:41:28 <elodilles> anything else to add to this or to other topic?
14:41:44 <elodilles> thanks fungi for bringing this up!
14:42:00 <fungi> my pleasure
14:45:10 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/releases master: Tag monthly kolla stable releases  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/866961
14:46:05 <ttx> all set
14:46:07 <ttx> ?
14:46:29 <elodilles> if nothing else to add / discuss, then yes :)
14:48:27 <elodilles> okay, considering the silence, I think we are done :)
14:48:39 <elodilles> thanks everyone for participating o/
14:48:58 <elodilles> #endmeeting