14:00:14 #startmeeting releaseteam 14:00:14 Meeting started Fri Dec 9 14:00:14 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elodilles. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:14 The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' 14:00:22 Ping list: hberaud armstrong elodilles 14:00:23 o/ 14:00:33 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/antelope-relmgt-tracking 14:01:12 we are somewhere around the middle, at line 154 14:01:14 o/ 14:01:16 o/ 14:01:35 let's start \o/ 14:01:45 #topic Review task completion 14:02:05 1st topic was 14:02:18 #info Push Mistral situation to TC through a governance patch (elod) 14:02:22 mail was sent 14:02:29 https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-December/031388.html 14:02:56 and it started a discussion and now it seems Mistral will have maintainers! \o/ 14:03:34 i guess we can keep mistral in Antelope's deliverables 14:03:46 WFM 14:04:10 but maybe we can postpone this discussion to another point in the agande 14:04:44 #info 2nd task: follow and check the Zed trailing projects patches (https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:zed-trailing-branch-cut) (all) 14:05:17 as I see kolla deliverables branched today 14:05:34 kayobe, osa and cinderlib remained 14:05:39 2nd and 3rd tasks are more or less the same 14:05:41 to next week 14:05:47 I did send teh remidner 14:05:57 yepp, you are right 14:06:12 Prepare Zed cycle trailing, deadline is next week 14:06:19 Send a friendly reminder (ttx) 14:06:30 this was sent as ttx said ^^^ 14:06:46 'Propose patches to release trailing deliverables (elod)' 14:06:51 all patches were proposed in R-18 week's task 14:07:07 so yes, I think we covered this 14:07:51 I also pinged the PTLs/release liaisons via the patch 14:08:04 anything to add here? 14:09:26 seems not, so we are done with this topic 14:09:35 #topic Assign next week tasks 14:09:49 as I see we have a single task: Review any remaining trailing project exceptions 14:09:57 I guess we can add 'all' to this 14:11:08 (I've added 'all' :)) 14:11:21 agree 14:11:22 #topic Review countdown email 14:11:41 #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails 14:11:45 please review ^^^ 14:12:44 the only tricky part i think is the 'will be proposed to switch to the cycle-with-rc model'. I've added a note for that. 14:12:49 LGTM 14:12:56 Tobias Urdin proposed openstack/releases master: [xena] Release Magnum 13.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/867111 14:13:13 hberaud: thx 14:14:05 LGTM, added final release date as it's always good to talk about it 14:14:16 ttx: ++ 14:14:45 #topic 2023.1 component changes - Adjutant out? - Mistral in? 14:15:20 so we have volunteers for Mistral 14:15:39 and as I saw there were discussions in TC meeting about Adjutant 14:16:55 + gmann proposed a patch for clarification about the timing of such (inactive) projects: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/867062 14:17:03 Re: Adjutant I would keep them if they reply to their releaase reviews around antelope-2 14:17:27 that makes a good check 14:17:37 same for mistral really 14:17:38 sounds good to me too 14:18:03 they might need our help to untangle any stuck job though 14:18:13 so probably something we should start looking into soon 14:18:29 maybe the general 'release mail introduction' email can be sent to the new maintainers / PTLs 14:18:45 ttx: ack 14:19:17 good idea 14:19:40 ++ 14:20:06 so Antelope-2 is Jan 5th 14:20:26 yeah, maybe something we should look into next week 14:20:41 ttx: ++ 14:20:41 like just looking if the jobs seem to be working 14:20:56 and if not what's the error messages etc 14:21:29 yepp 14:21:43 (especially as I'll be mostly off for last two weeks of december) 14:22:34 same thing for me 14:22:42 same 14:23:12 oh, nice :) 14:23:27 then it'll be a quiet period :) 14:24:43 should we add a task for next week about the 'check state of Adjutant/Mistral' as a reminder? 14:25:33 can't hurt 14:27:31 I've added all to this one as well 14:28:09 i mean: i've added the task to R-14 and marked as task for 'all' 14:28:39 ack 14:28:42 anything else to mention here? 14:28:47 nope 14:29:31 no 14:29:42 #topic Open Discussion 14:29:55 maybe one patch to mention here: 14:30:12 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/866961 14:30:41 in the past we had a discussion with Kolla team about their monthly releases, 14:31:23 and we agreed that they always bump MINOR versions, even though it doesn't follow then semver 14:31:51 ok 14:31:59 sorry I don't remember that point 14:32:03 approved 14:32:11 seems like the release jobs haven't been significantly impacted by the various tox v4 backward incompatibilities and behavior changes, but probably worth keeping tabs on the discussion in the ml 14:32:58 hberaud: thx. yepp, exceptions are hard to remember. maybe we could document somehow these things 14:33:08 yeah 14:33:35 semver is weird for the deployment things anyway 14:33:36 fungi: ack 14:33:38 in particular, the zuul maintainers are preparing to remove the temporary tox<4 cap in the ensure-tox role on december 21, so might want to be careful with any initial release approvals after that date and we can implement more direct tox version overrides where necessary 14:34:02 fungi: have you seen any release job (meaning you mentioned 'significant' :)) 14:34:29 * failure 14:34:56 i have not, so was trying to say that if there were issues they either didn't get exposed for the brief period of time between the v4 release and the addition of the cap in ensure-tox, or they weren't severe enough to come to my attention at least 14:35:12 ttx: yepp, exactly 14:35:48 fungi: ah, i see. 14:36:08 but also trying to be mindful of the fact that some release tasks rely on running things with tox using the individual projects' tox configs i think, so this could still result in inconsistent problems depending on those configs 14:36:29 fungi: maybe we can try to do a test release with 'release-test' repo somewhere after Dec 21 14:36:41 that's a good idea, at a minimum 14:38:56 also, some test on local env with tox 4 could be good 14:39:10 yes 14:40:06 Riccardo Pittau proposed openstack/releases master: Release sushy 4.4.1 for antelope https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/867115 14:40:36 i'll try to look into this, but feel free to do the same :) more eyes & tests may catch issues if there are any 14:41:28 anything else to add to this or to other topic? 14:41:44 thanks fungi for bringing this up! 14:42:00 my pleasure 14:45:10 Merged openstack/releases master: Tag monthly kolla stable releases https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/866961 14:46:05 all set 14:46:07 ? 14:46:29 if nothing else to add / discuss, then yes :) 14:48:27 okay, considering the silence, I think we are done :) 14:48:39 thanks everyone for participating o/ 14:48:58 #endmeeting