14:00:31 <elodilles> #startmeeting releaseteam
14:00:31 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Fri Dec  1 14:00:31 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is elodilles. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:00:31 <opendevmeet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:00:31 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'
14:00:52 <elodilles> Ping list: elod
14:01:02 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/caracal-relmgt-tracking
14:01:25 <elodilles> we around the middle of the pad
14:01:33 <elodilles> at line 128
14:02:43 <elodilles> ttx wrote that he probably skip today's meeting as he had some unexpected errands to run
14:02:54 <elodilles> hberaud: are you around?
14:04:25 <elodilles> (sorry for not sending my usual reminder before the meeting :S i had some unexpected downstream meeting just before the meeting and forgot about the reminder :S)
14:06:10 <elodilles> anyway, as I see I'm alone, but there's not that many things on the agenda, so let's run through them for the sake of the meeting logs
14:06:19 <elodilles> #topic Review task completion
14:06:40 <elodilles> 1st task was: 'Prepare 2023.2 Bobcat cycle trailing releases (elod)'
14:06:54 <elodilles> i've sent a friendly reminder to ML:
14:07:02 <elodilles> #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/RPTPVHSFSK6PXJGRV775EFVZ4Y4DX2SM/
14:07:15 <elodilles> and proposed the release patches:
14:07:29 <elodilles> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22trailing-final-bobcat%22
14:08:26 <elodilles> all of the teams have responded, and 4 release patches were merged
14:08:34 <elodilles> so we are good so far
14:09:06 <elodilles> though next week we should mark the RCs as official releases
14:10:10 <elodilles> I've added a reminder / task for that to next week's task list
14:10:28 <elodilles> and that's it for this task
14:10:51 <elodilles> 2nd task was: 'Remind the Foundation that the next Release Name selection process should be started. Release name should be available by R-11 (ttx)'
14:11:09 <elodilles> ttx is not around
14:12:45 <elodilles> ttx: reminder for this task ^^^ i guess you have discussed this with foundation staff, so this is just a friendly ping to not forget about this o:)
14:13:02 <elodilles> and that was all for the tasks for this week
14:13:11 <elodilles> #topic Open Discussion
14:13:17 <elodilles> ping rosmaita
14:13:20 <rosmaita> hello
14:13:25 <elodilles> hi o/
14:13:27 <rosmaita> just want to give an update about where we are on the "Unmaintained" branches
14:13:42 <rosmaita> ok, so for reference in the meeting log, here's the etherpad where we were discussing this stuff:
14:13:49 <rosmaita> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/early-caracal-unmaintained-transition
14:14:08 <rosmaita> after that discussion, i sent out a email to the ML saying what the strategy was:
14:14:11 <rosmaita> #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/ZYAZG43BLJJVXCYZVPYQX5733BYDVVNL/
14:14:18 <rosmaita> there have been no responses, so i guess everyone is cool with the proposal
14:14:28 <elodilles> ++
14:14:28 <rosmaita> the new thing was having the global openstack-unmaintained-core group
14:14:36 <rosmaita> which required an amendment to the "Unmaintained status" resolution
14:14:43 <rosmaita> that merged with no objections, and the gerrit group was created:
14:14:49 <rosmaita> #link https://review.opendev.org/admin/groups/4d728691952c04b8b2ec828eabc96b98dc124d69
14:15:01 <rosmaita> elodilles and tonyb are members, and so they'll have the gerrit permissions defined here:
14:15:08 <rosmaita> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/902110
14:15:54 <rosmaita> the permissions are set up so that the Release Managers have abandon powers on the unmaintained/* branches
14:16:05 <elodilles> +1
14:16:36 <rosmaita> and i added some code to the project-config tests to make sure that if a project overrides the global group, the Release Managers will still have abandon powers
14:17:10 <rosmaita> so basically at this point, the community is aware of Unmaintained branches
14:17:41 <elodilles> cool \o/
14:17:43 <rosmaita> and the release team has the go-ahead to make this happen, when they can fit the work/patches in around the normal cycle tasks
14:18:18 <elodilles> ACK
14:18:34 <rosmaita> i think you should feel free to call on the TC members to help out if there's something we can do without getting in your way
14:19:03 <elodilles> cool, thanks!
14:19:17 <rosmaita> that's all from me
14:19:38 <elodilles> thanks rosmaita for the summary about the progress
14:19:46 <rosmaita> np
14:19:51 <elodilles> all looks good :)
14:20:07 <rosmaita> great!
14:20:13 <elodilles> i'm a bit lagging behind my backlog, i just sent the reminder to teams about the final Yoga releases
14:20:23 <elodilles> some teams are preparing theirs
14:20:50 <elodilles> but most of the teams are quiet :)
14:20:54 <rosmaita> yeah, we can't do anything until the final releases happen
14:21:31 <elodilles> so i guess soon we can propose the tagging + unmaintained/yoga branch cuts
14:21:57 <rosmaita> yes, i think the release team should determine the timing on all that stuff
14:22:35 <elodilles> i'm planning to continue next week with the train + ussuri EOL patch proposals
14:23:22 <rosmaita> i think the community is informed that Unmaintained is for real, and what branches will go to Unmaintained and what will be tagged and deleted, and since this is the first time we're doing this, there may be some delay getting it all done
14:24:08 <elodilles> yepp
14:24:18 <rosmaita> anyway, i just want to make it clear that the TC doesn't want to dump a bunch of extra work on the release team
14:24:24 <rosmaita> well, i guess we do actually
14:24:29 <elodilles> :)
14:24:35 <rosmaita> my point is that you can call on us to help out
14:24:46 <rosmaita> but otherwise, we'll leave it up to you
14:24:48 <elodilles> thanks in advance :)
14:25:02 <elodilles> so far i just looked a bit on releases repo where we should do some modification regarding the new 'unmaintained/*' branches + *-eom tags, but haven't pushed anything yet
14:25:11 <elodilles> but that is on the queue for me
14:25:37 <rosmaita> sounds good, i hope that some weird complication we haven't anticipated doesn't pop up
14:26:22 <elodilles> fingers crossed :)
14:26:29 <rosmaita> :D
14:27:20 <elodilles> thanks again for the heads up!
14:27:26 <elodilles> anything else to mention?
14:28:05 <rosmaita> nope, that's all
14:28:20 <elodilles> okay, then let's end the meeting
14:28:33 <rosmaita> thanks for volunteering to be in the openstack-unmaintained-core group, by the way
14:28:43 <elodilles> np :)
14:28:46 <elodilles> thanks for coming by rosmaita ! :)
14:28:52 <elodilles> #endmeeting