13:00:10 <elodilles> #startmeeting releaseteam
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13:00:14 <hberaud> o/
13:00:16 <elodilles> Ping list: release-team elod
13:00:25 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/dalmatian-relmgt-tracking
13:00:36 <frickler> \o
13:00:36 <elodilles> o/
13:01:04 <elodilles> we are down @ line 193
13:01:08 <elodilles> R-14
13:01:36 <elodilles> let's get started ~o~
13:01:45 <elodilles> #topic Review task completion
13:01:54 <elodilles> 1st & only task was:
13:02:04 <elodilles> 'Ahead of MembershipFreeze, run governance_consistency.py (frickler)'
13:02:13 <elodilles> frickler: anything to report?
13:02:29 <frickler> I ran that last week and showed the results. didn't get to follow up yet
13:02:47 <frickler> I'll add the list to the tracking pad later
13:03:00 <elodilles> ACK, thanks
13:03:06 <frickler> #link https://paste.opendev.org/show/b6cpD8zG0JwYw9w2bhyg/
13:03:13 <frickler> that's the list
13:03:41 <elodilles> +1
13:04:17 <elodilles> as I see & as i remember we discussed, that there are only some legitimate deliverables, but those are there for cycles over cycles
13:04:34 <elodilles> and I don't see anything 'new'
13:04:53 <elodilles> maybe openapi, codegenerator?
13:05:48 <elodilles> anyway, we should check with the teams if they want these to be included in 2024.2 Dalmatian
13:05:52 <frickler> yes, the latter two are new and not ready yet
13:06:09 <elodilles> ah, so you already pinged the teams, right?
13:06:47 <elodilles> the '
13:06:55 <elodilles> Defined in deliverable files but not in (active) governance' list is also interesting
13:07:28 <elodilles> i can generate a patch to remove the listed puppet-* repos from deliverables/dalmatian/
13:07:33 <frickler> I pinged the cinder team and it seems it is a known issue, need to check the others
13:08:08 <frickler> the puppet things got retired but not deleted properly due to bad timing I think
13:08:26 <elodilles> yeah, i think so, too
13:09:29 <elodilles> btw, i don't find murano-pkg-check under deliverables/dalmatian/ O.o
13:10:02 <elodilles> how is that possible? :-o
13:11:47 <elodilles> anyway, as I said, i can propose a patch for the latter listed deliverables
13:12:01 <frickler> it is independent
13:12:28 <elodilles> ah, i see
13:12:47 <elodilles> thanks
13:13:20 <elodilles> frickler: could you continue to check with the teams for the remaining deliverables in the upper list?
13:14:00 <elodilles> just to sort these out as soon as possible, so that to have a good view about the Dalmatian deliverables
13:14:13 <frickler> will do, ack
13:14:21 <elodilles> thanks o/
13:14:34 <elodilles> anything else to add to this task?
13:15:05 <frickler> I had a small patch to make the output sorted and thus repeatable, that got merged earlier
13:15:15 <elodilles> ++
13:15:17 <frickler> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/922466
13:15:22 <elodilles> thanks for that too o/
13:16:01 <elodilles> okay, let's move on to the next topic
13:16:12 <elodilles> #topic Assign R-13 week tasks
13:16:41 <elodilles> hberaud: would you chair the meeting next week?
13:17:09 <elodilles> ttx will be on PTO
13:17:42 <hberaud> no sorry, I'm not fully available next, I leave my place to someone more active than me
13:18:07 <elodilles> ACK, thanks for the heads up
13:18:23 <elodilles> then i'm the only candidate, so I'll chair o:)
13:18:24 <hberaud> not on PTO but with many other topics on my plate
13:18:33 <elodilles> hberaud: i see :S
13:19:21 <hberaud> thanks elodilles
13:19:27 <elodilles> np
13:19:38 <elodilles> then i added my name to the tasks, feel free to grab any of them if you would like to work on any of them
13:19:45 <elodilles> move on then
13:20:00 <elodilles> #topic Review countdown email for week R-13
13:20:13 <elodilles> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
13:20:16 <elodilles> please review ^^^
13:20:46 <ttx> oops
13:20:59 <ttx> I totally missed the ping
13:21:45 <ttx> Email LGTM
13:21:47 <elodilles> np :) we are more or less at a quiet summer period :D
13:21:56 <frickler> do the last two sections about new deliverables actually apply to anything?
13:22:11 <frickler> otherwise we might rather want to drop them?
13:22:29 <hberaud> LGTM
13:22:59 <elodilles> frickler: yepp, i think yes, we don't have (and probably won't have) new deliverables, so I'm OK with dropping that part
13:23:23 <elodilles> i've removed it
13:23:25 <ttx> frickler: i think the remidner can't hurt, even if we do not expect deliverables
13:23:31 <ttx> also fine removing it
13:23:54 <elodilles> the reminder is still there about the 'content freeze'
13:24:12 <ttx> ah perfect
13:24:12 <elodilles> i just dropped the part about the 'new deliverables'
13:24:26 <frickler> ack, that's fine then
13:24:40 <elodilles> good, thanks all for the reviews, will send the mail after the meeting some time
13:24:50 <hberaud> thanks elodilles
13:25:03 <elodilles> #topic Open Discussion
13:25:11 <elodilles> anything to mention?
13:25:13 <hberaud> yes
13:25:28 <elodilles> hear hear
13:26:38 <hberaud> I currently think about stepping down as release manager, as I said few minutes ago, my plate is full of other topics and I'm not enough availabale for the release team
13:27:05 <elodilles> that sounds a sad news :/
13:27:13 <hberaud> I wanted to be transparent with you about my thinking
13:27:13 <ttx> we do have low expectations!
13:27:18 <elodilles> as we are a bit small team
13:27:26 <ttx> I'm also not super active but it all adds up
13:27:53 <elodilles> yepp, as ttx said, any small help is still a help
13:28:12 <hberaud> I can remains available to help but with a lower activity
13:28:35 <frickler> that would be much better than stepping down completely IMO, too
13:28:47 <elodilles> hberaud: we appreaciate any help, so that's fine by us
13:28:57 <hberaud> ok, then, will do my best
13:29:10 <elodilles> thanks in advance!
13:29:21 <elodilles> and thanks for your work so far o/
13:29:22 <ttx> That's fine by me, thanks for setting expectations correctly ! Just doing a review day is already moving the needle (that's the minimum I try to force myself to
13:29:26 <ttx> cover)
13:29:37 <frickler> feel free to ignore pings if you don't have time
13:29:52 <hberaud> thanks all
13:29:54 <elodilles> yepp, as frickler says ++
13:30:08 <hberaud> I'll be happy to reply to pings if I can
13:30:19 <elodilles> +1
13:30:51 <hberaud> that's all for me
13:30:53 <frickler> but also, if you decide you'd rather quit completly, don't listen to us
13:31:12 <hberaud> frickler: sure :)
13:31:43 <hberaud> I can still do the minimal service
13:31:49 <elodilles> o7
13:33:11 <elodilles> any other topic or merrier news? o:)
13:34:19 <hberaud> nope
13:34:36 <elodilles> if not, then thanks all for participation and see you next week o/
13:34:39 <elodilles> #endmeeting