14:01:44 <ttx> #startmeeting releaseteam
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14:01:44 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'
14:02:08 <ttx> ping release-team
14:02:12 <elodilles> o/
14:02:12 <ttx> Our agenda is at :
14:02:32 <ttx> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/epoxy-relmgt-tracking#L70
14:02:53 <ttx> #topic Review task completion
14:03:32 <frickler> \o
14:03:34 <ttx> Review cycle-trailing projects to check which haven’t released yet (elod)
14:03:47 <elodilles> yepp
14:03:50 <elodilles> i've checked
14:04:01 <elodilles> and kayobe and OSA is not yet released
14:04:14 <elodilles> so i've sent the mail:
14:04:23 <elodilles> https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/7GDU6HYDSFREMMDZDIN2HDQ46VGSSX7T/
14:04:42 <ttx> +1
14:05:01 <ttx> Only other task is to send the email, which I'll do shortly after meeting
14:05:14 <elodilles> ++
14:05:18 <ttx> #topic Assign R-20 week tasks
14:06:12 <ttx> All assigned
14:06:28 <ttx> #topic Review weekly countdown email
14:06:35 <ttx> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
14:07:34 <frickler> lgtm
14:07:40 <elodilles> lgtm, too
14:08:11 <ttx> Perfect will send before eod
14:08:16 <ttx> #topic Open Discussion
14:08:34 <ttx> Re: meeting time, should we push it back one hour? If so I can push the corresponding change
14:08:58 <ttx> I'm fine with the meeting at the current time, but I recognize it makes it super hard for the US people to join if they need to
14:08:59 <elodilles> i'm OK with either keeping or with moving back
14:09:32 <elodilles> yeah, probably for US folks the later the better
14:09:35 <frickler> could simply revert https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/irc-meetings/+/915134
14:09:38 <ttx> frickler: any preference?
14:10:03 <frickler> no preference as log as we move back again in 6 months
14:10:11 <ttx> frickler: sure thing
14:10:17 <frickler> or rather 5 from now
14:10:17 <elodilles> +1
14:10:25 <ttx> OK I'll push the change. I prefer a change so that I update the starting date of the new rule
14:10:47 <elodilles> thx
14:11:00 <ttx> anything else we need to cover?
14:11:18 <elodilles> i don't have other topic
14:11:47 * frickler neither
14:12:06 <noonedeadpunk> I do
14:12:27 <ttx> noonedeadpunk: go for it
14:12:40 <noonedeadpunk> couple of weeks ago I raised a topic of making EOM/EOL process for projects with trailing releases to be trailing to
14:12:57 <elodilles> noonedeadpunk: makes sense
14:13:07 <noonedeadpunk> otherwise it shifts focus a bit into arranging things for EOM rather then releasing
14:13:43 <noonedeadpunk> and also lifetime for releases are not aligned nicely
14:13:57 <elodilles> note though, that we did it like that in the past. i mean the trailing projects always made the transition after all have done it
14:13:59 <noonedeadpunk> also de-facto - it's still trailing anyway
14:14:30 <noonedeadpunk> yeah, but it wasn't like policy or anything - it was me bragging for exception :D
14:14:43 <elodilles> :)
14:14:55 <noonedeadpunk> and frankly I was feeling I'm on the wrong
14:15:28 <elodilles> yeah, maybe the trick is that we can only set the SERIES state as 'unmaintained' when EVERYTHING made the transition
14:16:06 <elodilles> so i guess you want to wait like a month or so after the non-trailing projects have transitioned, right?
14:16:15 <noonedeadpunk> this is actually good point...
14:16:22 <noonedeadpunk> ideally - yes
14:16:53 <noonedeadpunk> ideally - I'd love to psuh the new release before thinking about EOM
14:17:18 <elodilles> it needs some tooling update, but probably doable. i can check the code
14:17:31 <noonedeadpunk> which would also mean same lifetime for branch
14:18:23 <elodilles> makes sense
14:19:35 <ttx> elodilles: so you're going to look into it and let us know?
14:19:43 <ttx> Anything more to discuss on the topic?
14:19:58 <elodilles> ttx: yepp, will do that
14:20:10 <noonedeadpunk> thanks!
14:20:13 <ttx> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/irc-meetings/+/934432
14:20:19 <ttx> review for the meeting time change ^
14:20:22 <fungi> already approved
14:20:27 <ttx> Alright then, any other topic?
14:20:34 <elodilles> noonedeadpunk: np
14:21:20 <ttx> alright then
14:21:24 <ttx> #endmeeting